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Why those motherfuckers from feedfuckula read comments from community that provide their pathetic lives, like they have been written by some retarded bunch of idiots who don't know what they're doing? I found THAT pretty fucking offensive actually.

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@NeOmeGamer You are a freakin idiot. Don't post dumbass shit like this and you wont have anything to be offended by. Feedbackula works because Gamespot always lets you know it is a subjective based review. People are stupid and think they are more important than they are. If you are offended go somewhere else.

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@Llama345 @NeOmeGamer Dumbass shit like that? Like what? Like what? Like what those comment said and have been read by trolling idiots from GS? Well, i actually think those comments weren't stupid but honest and more polite then 90% of others posted that day. So go get yourself fucked if you wish, but don't pretendt like you're better cause all you do is post "I <3 GameSpot"

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@NeOmeGamer Where did he state that he was better than anyone else?
And just because a guy thinks that Tom is entitled to an opinion and entitled to hand out his own grade, doesn't necessarily mean he is a GS Fan. I like your trolling skills.

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@NeOmeGamer Cursing at people and calling them names doesn't improve your position bud. Makes people find you childish and take you less seriously.

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Actually they generally only use the really ignorant, angry comments. If you don't post comments like that then you have no need to be offended. If you do, then stop it.

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@Jamoid That still didn't answer my question. So, people who HAVE DIFFERENT opinions, and are angry with the review, are to be treated like idiots in feedfuckula, cause, they're angry and shit? What the fuckkity ****? Thats even worse. Seems like you can only lick their balls to be considered OK-ish, but say something against their health&safety policy and you're a whinging bitch.

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@Jamoid @Frostcreep @NeOmeGamer I just signed up because of your inspiring crusade! ;)

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@Frostcreep @NeOmeGamer Holy **** it's nice that some thoughtful, reasonable people have shown up. I can actually get some work done now!

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@NeOmeGamer Nothing is "perfect"... It's ridiculous how many 10/10 are given out when in reality it never actually should occur. The explanation to why this STILL happens is this: "Nothing can be OBJECTIVELY perfect, but a whole lot more of things can be SUBJECTIVELY perfect..." This strengthens the fact that reviews are subjective NOT objective. If reviews were TRULY objective not a single game could be perfect, and most games couldn't even be reviewed because games are SUBJECTIVE as with all other forms of entertainment. Entertainment can never be "reviewed" objectively... Because it's a SUBJECTIVE experience.

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@NeOmeGamer *slow clap* I like your trolling skills.

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@jspig03 @Jamoid Nobody said I've rage quited, I just made my point and left, but nobody took me seriously... Pretty much just like that review, then, eh? Eh?
ZING!

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@NeOmeGamer @Jamoid and you wonder why people ridicule angry comments? "You disagree with me, YOU MUST DIE!!!!"

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@Jamoid

Well now look what you did Kev. You made that illiterate, hate spewing bigot rage quit. You can't use common sense and calm reasoning to confuse curmudgeons. They don't know how to handle it. It's just not fair...

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@NeOmeGamer @Jamoid <3

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@Jamoid @NeOmeGamer you're so fukin boring you're making me want to puke into my mouth. Gosh, just go. Sleezy spineless parasite. You make me sick.

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@NeOmeGamer @Jamoid Yes, I'm Kevin VanOrd.

Or maybe I'm just arguing what I feel is a legitimate point. Bigotry is something I feel extremely strongly about and disregarding any opinion that does not match your own comes extremely close to being that.

I also (like pretty much any games journalist) realize that varied opinions on a subjective matter are extremely important and valuable.


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@NeOmeGamer @Jamoid I know you're trying to defend him and we see something else from him. I guess we can all say we don't know if he did it on purpose or not. We can't judge he is doing for publicity or just beeing different... and you can't judge he s just a normal nice guy with good intentions and an opinion.

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@Jamoid U work for GS? Or are u simply here because you have too much free time on your hands? Because of fukin tools like you, those idiots will always prevail. smh

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Game reviews are not objective, they are by and large subjective. I explained why (again) in a comment just below.

With that in mind, 8/10 DOES reflect the state of the game to HIM. Maybe not to me, to you, or to anyone else. But to HIM. And it's a damn good score at that. It reflects exactly what he is saying - it's a great game with some minor flaws.

Again, if you feel the review is not thorough enough that's fine, but to jump to the conclusion that he has some sort of agenda or simply wants publicity based on a 1-2 arbitrary score difference of a game you have never played is just utterly ridiculous and unreasonable.

Please don't presume to know what is going on in the head of someone you have never even met with no evidence whatsoever, it's arrogant and malicious.

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@Jamoid@NeOmeGamerFinally, some proper answer. Let me break it down for you as well then. The shit-storm that caused Tom's review is not bacuase his review differs but because it doesn't reflect the state of game and is solely written to cripple metacritic. He's rhetoric is flawed and there is nothing that suggest the last of us is short of flawless, not to mention deserves mere 8/10 in this age and era. The fact he was trolling us all is to get hits and the hits he gets. But don't tell me that idiot who gave fukin Mario 10/10 can honestly judge games like that objectively. He done that deliberately, knowing this game is perfect and his voice will be lost amongst other 'tens'. so to artificially differentiate his review from the avalanche of others he scored it below that perfect mark, leaving gamespot on the spot of controversy, and as controversy goes "doesn't matter what they say about you, as long as they keep talking about you."

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@NeOmeGamer @Jamoid Thing is, you're expecting angry, offensively put opinions to be respected and taken seriously when they cannot afford anyone else that same courtesy. If an opinion revolves solely around the basis that every other opinion is invalid, does it really have any value?

I have absolutely no issue with someone complaining about a review not being thorough enough, but to flat out deny someone else's opinion on a subjective matter simply because it doesn't match your own or the status quo is extremely arrogant and narrow-minded.

Not to mention how little his review even differs from others or the fact that none of the people complaining have even played the game.

It's just flat out ridiculous.

To your question of why Feedbackula does this: for comedic effect.

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I love it when people say "Un-subbed" :-)

Is that Cannon?

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@CieloPerso LOL, cannon...

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Once again, the main issue was glossed over. While there WAS more then plenty of asinine comments made, like the ones shown on...whatever this feedbackula was and was trying to accomplish, the real problem, pointed out by more...eloquent comments was not even brought up. It was a BADLY done review, plain and simple. I could care less about the score, or Tom's OPINIONS on the game. A review is made to give the facts and a look over on the main features of a game. This review simply didn't do that. It was a rushed poorly detailed review devoid of a lot of features that make the game what it is. The reasoning behind why the score was given was very loose and non informative. Negatives that are over looked on most other games as an unfortunate standard for the times, (occasional unaware AI, talking during stealth parts being "immersion breaking") was for some reason taken much more heavy handed then with other games,.....looking at you MGS. My last point, though maybe not agreed to by all, is that a review should actually be scaled very little on personal thoughts and feelings. It should be graded on how well each individual feature of the game is accomplished well, is lacking, and how it compares to similar games of the genre.

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@Pheonix_38 I Ask you then... Why even give the game a "score" when a review is not subjective in the first place? If a review is "supposedly" made to "...give the facts and a look over on the main features of a game..." What is the point of the review in the first place? You can get that information from the games developers...

A Review is supposed to describe how the "Reviewer" felt playing the game. What the "Reviewer" thought about the game... You tend to read reviews by reviewers you yourself can relate to, why? Because they give you an opinion you will most likely agree on yourself. They give you an opinion that as closely as possible replicate your own opinion on the matter. I myself have a couple reviewers with the same tastes like me, same thinking pattern as me, same opinions on games like me, etc... I often trust their judgement because they in a way represent my own thoughts I would have if I was reviewing the game.

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Exactly. I tend to agree with AngryJoe and KevinVanOrd, but usually disagree with Carolyn Petit and Tom McShea. That doesn't mean I automatically assume they are wrong or have an agenda, I assume it's because they have very different tastes to me.

Who the hell has the right to make assumptions or pass judgements about a person's ethics or motives based on reviews they do? It really is like huge swathes of people were never taught to consider other's points of view, but rather make wild accusations about them based purely on their subjective opinions being slightly different.

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@Jamoid Well, people don't like it when something isn't the way they want it to be (Or when someone doesn't agree with their opinions)... Be it opinions, clothes, games, food, etc... I think it has grounds in human nature, some people though have learned to understand that different people think DIFFERENTLY and can respect their way of thinking... Other still can't, and that is the real core of the argument and why people in the first place act aggressively against each other. :/

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@Pheonix_38 TL;DR

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@NeOmeGamer @Pheonix_38 Wow, Really? so because you feel Jamoid is poking at your opinons, you're gonna troll him with a TL;DR? *Sarcastic Thumbs up*

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Gonna copy and paste because I've gone over it more than enough times:

"People seem to think games can be reviewed objectively like pieces of hardware, purely based on amount of bugs and lists of features. That's not how it works.

Of course those things factor in, but they are only a small part of it. You can have a game with every feature in the book and no bugs at all, yet it falls flat because it simply isn't fun to the reviewer. By that same token you can have a game with many bugs or very little features that ends up succeeding because it's a lot of fun to the reviewer or is greater than the sum of its parts.

Basically for many components of a game (art style, music, dialogue, story line, fun factor), there really is no objective way of quantifying them. It's like expecting everyone to have the exact same opinion on a piece of art, then score it exactly the same without ever meeting each other."

Also, Feedbackula is not about analyzing reasonable, eloquent critique. It's about lightly mocking the most ridiculous comments for comedic effect.

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I say customers because people have to see commercials or advertisements before a video or some kind of review. If they are not getting paid then I could understand. But if they are then they all can go funck them selfs.

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@R-Tillery You're watching an ad. You're not paying them anything. You're not entitled to shit.

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For example, I have always hated Halo, I gave it several geniune tries (to all games) and really its not my thing. Of course, thats only me, a lot of people like it very VERY much, but u dont see me getiing offended by GS review on it. Cuz if it was up to me, i would give it 7 Fair Review at most haha

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Another great episode of Feedbackula, keep up the good work guys.

The fact that people are crying and getting upset over what is basically another person's opinion of a game, is another reason why the gaming industry is still looked upon with some degree of derision.

Grow up people.

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Go feedbackula!

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This was great.

I'll never understand why people place so much weight on review scores.

The way people were carrying on and throwing temper tantrums here leads me to believe that they're under the assumption that if 'The Last of Us' fails to receive perfect scores across the board, the game will be pulled from shelves and you'll never be able to play it.

Like pretty much everything in life, a review is an opinion, and opinions are subjective; different people have different standards, and what the Gamespot review crew sees as a flaw may be something that you like, or don't even notice.

Don't let 1 or 2 points on an imaginary scale of quality pull you into an ephemeral rage and lead you into a profanity-laced tirade - you make yourself look like a fool.

If anything you should be using reviews to gain a general overview of the game and nothing more, because in all honesty, if you're interested in the title, you're going to pick it up, play it, and enjoy it. It's not as though you're going to be sitting in your living room, playing the game, and cursing Gamespot as you're doing so (if you are...just go seek professional help already) - you're going to be enjoying the game.

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My complaint about the review wasn't the score, it was that the reviewer appeared to have encountered the idea of cover in a game for the first time last week. The fact that he thought that being able to hide behind things was an amazing innovation made the whole thing seem poorly thought-out and hastily written, like he took the feature list, turned it onto prose, and slapped it online. I thought it was a decent point, and I'm pretty sure I spelled and punctuated everything perfectly, too.

But this "show" seems to see everyone through the filter of annoying, basement dwelling game nerd. If I felt that way about my customers, I'm not sure I'd make a show about that feeling.

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@mtouchprod Technically none of us are customers. None of us pay a due to be here. Websites like this make money from advertising. Also, many people find these funny and a good portion of people make their comments as stupid as possible so they get featured.

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@mtouchprod Because immature idiots exist in great numbers and ignoring them won't make them go away.

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I agree with the idea of critical variation. Seriously, if you don't like the GS review THAT much, and you need the purchase justification THAT badly, then just go to another site. Really, guys; we shouldn't have to feel that insecure over our purchases.


Also, do you think it'd be possible to do a community Feedbackula? I'd like to read comments, too!

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8/10, so what......

Oh yea, Exclusive, high expectations, blah blah blah..........

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So Feedbackula is just a chance for the Gamespot reviews to shit on their readers? I don't recall Roger Ebert doing that when he published a review people disagreed with.

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If you feel "shat on" because they are willing to lightheartedly mock the most hateful, ignorant comments they can find, then by all means go for it princess.

How you survive daily life without feeling constantly upset and insulted though completely vexes me.

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If this is what your daily life is like, you're doing it wrong.

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@Jamoid @mtouchprod "Gamespot extremely mildly mocking " calling someone a nob is a direct insult not midly mocking. Also Im not even sure how the process of consent works here, the people who's comments are being read out and being insulted might not even know this is happening or might not want it to be on here and made it public, who knows maybe there is something in the terms and conditions that allows them to do it without consent.

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@mtouchprod Right, because that's exactly what I said.

My point was if he can't handle Gamespot extremely mildly mocking only the most ridiculous, hateful comments, then he's in for some seriously big surprises in life. I mean really, silly voices.

If you don't find it funny that's completely understandable, but calling it a massive disrespectful slap in the face to ALL Gamespot readers. No, it just isn't, by any stretch of the imagination.

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Way to respect the opinions of your fans, Gamespot.

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That's it: I called Feedbackula wrong for the first time since its inception. I was expecting to see comments about the outcry of learning Kiefer Sutherland would be voicing Snake.

I know it's hoping against hope, but the fact that they ignore that leads me to believe they know something...
Maybe that's just me. These comments are funnier, anyway.

P.S.: What's up with the readers? These are funnier with snarky British accents.

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It weren’t the score that you gave for the game that made people upset, it was the lazy review. When people come to this stupid site to see the reviews of the so called experts, all they get is = (Good) the game looks great. (Bad) the characters don’t seem real enough. And to have some limy little troll come and mock the people’s intelligence with a stupid video response because they think is funny is a slap in the face of your customers. Go get real talent to post reviews... fixed it happy?

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It weren’t the score that you gave for the game that made people upset, it was the lazy review. When people come to this stupid site to see the reviews of the so called experts, all they get is = (Good) the game looks great. (Bad) the characters don’t seem real enough. And to have some limy little troll come and mock the people’s intelligents with a stupid video response because they think is funny is a slap in the face of your customers. Go get real talent to post reviews.

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Customers?

At worst you could call it an extremely mild slap in the face to people who post ignorant, angry comments. Why anyone else would be offended is well beyond me.


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@R-Tillery intelligence ?

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I wish they did one of this trying to defend Spec Ops The Line shameful review. Don't get me wrong, I like feedbackula to laugh from time to time, but it's nice to see hypsters like Jonhy trying to defend something inconsistent like that review, or the #reasonshy feminism for a more concret example of ... bullshit :D

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