Feedbackula - GTA V Review Revulsion

@RastamanG online ass hole

And none of those things where mentioned in the review

@blueinheaven it wasn't the fact that it was morally questionable, it was because she felt alienated by the portrayal of women. can you not see someone enjoying the game a little bit less if she felt alienated by it?

either way though, the critique did not warrant the personal assault that happened after, and that was the point of this feedbackula.

@Ser_Charles

10/10 does not mean perfect. It just means that it's a game that people would recommend to others. If it were to be based off of being perfect then no game would deserve a 10.

@Ser_Charles does GTA4?

@Samus_rules A review is an opinion, but a site like Gamespot pays these people to do professional reviews. This isn't someone's Youtube page. The score is fine but the reason's for the score are reasons that have no business being mentioned other than trying to push a point the reviewer has. The two reasons given were the game is misogynistic and that the characters break from character.

The second point isn't true since the game is an open world game with 3 main characters whose main objective is to make money. The example given was of Franklin helping a guy take photos of celebrities, which he does cause the guy offers to pay him. In a game thats all about not being serious and over the top side characters, the mission fits right in with the rest of the game. 3 criminals with low morals trying to make money. Its open world, so if you don't think your character you're playing would do those side missions, then you don't have to do them. Its what you make it.

But the first point, which was the main negative focus of the review and what has started this whole debate, was that the game is misogynistic. Its a game of criminals, stereotypes, cliches, movie references, and about being over the top. There isn't a single role model in the game nor is there supposed to be. Its a game that has a commercial about rednecks drinking beer and having sex with pigs, an old English couple digging through people's trash for souvenirs, drugged out party Asians, fat lazy pot head video gamers, and cutscenes of thugs calling each other the N word over and over. Trying to say that women aren't shown in a good way in a game like this is the same as saying they aren't in Madden as well. GTA has always been like that and its supposed to be. It makes fun of society and stereotypes and always has. Thats part of its charm.

They could have given the game a 5 out of 10 and gotten less negative feedback as long as they gave real reasons for the score. If you think the driving sucks, or the gun play sucks, or the missions are boring, or the storyline has been done, or any other real complaints about a video game. But choosing those reasons, especially the main one, just looks like someone pushing their own agenda which most people don't feel like hearing about when trying to watch an official review.

And as far as this reply video goes, Feedbackula is a series of videos that makes fun of stupid comments usually posted by 12 year olds. There is always going to be comments like these on the interent. Everyone knows it and most people can just easily ignore them since the people making them are usually kids or even more pathetic adults. Had a regular guy done this same review and gotten the same kind of hate, would we be getting a reply like this defending them and cursing people out. I feel like this video did more damage for that reviewer and kind of made them look like the little sister of the group.

@NonaryGamer The game marginalizes everyone. The reviewer homed in on the one aspect that was most important to her and simply overlooked everything else; like the extreme racism. No one is saying this game is without sexism, what I'm saying is it's more than a little biased to be upset with how the game treats women, and be cool with how it treats everyone else. Is it equality for all? Or is it make sure the women are safe and comfortable, then tear everyone else apart? If you're thinking "but it isn't equal!" then I challenge you to find one character with strong a strong moral compass that isn't a racial stereotype.

@NonaryGamer When did a drawing of a women in a bikini equate to misogyny... literally meaning the hate of women? In context, the game takes place in L.A. Seeing a women in a bikini in that area of California on the beach isn't exactly novel. The fact that she is taking a selfie seems to indicate the theme of self obsession and decadence in the current culture, a theme they are expressing. And the series has always used character images representing different aspects of life in the area take place. Most of which are never a playable character in the game.

It's one thing to argue if the portrayal of women characters is sexist in the game, if they are treated different than any other character in terms of how well they are represented, or to what level the satire works, if at all. But to say a drawing, well within context, of a women in a bikini somehow equates to the hatred of women, well that's beyond me.

That said, I personally would not of rated this game higher than a 8. But that's the smallest portion of the conversation.

@FoxHoleUK85 are you as upset about whats happening in Syria at the moment? or other repressive countries? or that people are starving, exploitation of children in the third world? sex trafficking?

This is all trivial internet ridiculousness in comparison. People are protected by a layer of anonymity on the internet and therefore many show their true colours and their darker side on the internet. There is nothing you nor I can do and definitely nothing gamespot can do regardless of how "offended" this guy may seem. You are better off trying to make a change to real world problems where real people are being devastated, not just some critic that puts themselves out there and should know there will always be a segment of the internet that will dislike them.

@FoxHoleUK85 What's the gaming community? Is that like the book readers community or television watchers community?

@bigcrusha "This game was practically DESIGNED to offend all sorts of people. From politicians to MADD, hipsters to Anti-racism activists,..."

Except that none of the above have to deal with objectification and the (systematic) denial of equal rights on a, for most women, daily basis.

The way women are portrayed in this game is actually not too far off from how our society sees women and tells men to treat women, unlike the ludicrous amounts of violence, which we all rightfully frown upon in reality.

Yes, GTA is satire, but in this iteration, it does nothing to justify or explain the way it portrays women. They are just there for everyone to rip on, call names at and toy with, without ever giving it any context whatsoever.

@MalakTawus

I would suggest that you actually look at the page. Most of these are taken out of context or were written by trolls. There are some concerns brought up in the comment section that were ignored. My guess was that it was on purpose.

@rrhammer ...Plus you can`t go into the clucking bell.... Or buy from vendors that are clearly there (apparently.. I hven't driven that fr yet)

@madprof666 Score has to be proportional to what has gone before. How other games have been scored. If you site scores Metal Gear Solid 4 a 10, a game that almost kicked off current-gen. Then gave Grand Theft Auto IV a 10. It's a little odd that other gaming sites are scoring GTA V 10 quoting the game as being a 'masterpiece' and this site scores it down... for things that made the series what it is in the first place.

As for personal attacks, I find it a little hard that a woman who use to be a man is preaching about misogyny. In fact that takes irony to a whole new level. Had the reviewer stated the bad language was an issue and scored it down, I would think yeah it's a bit excessive ...fair point. But for a former man to bleating on a misogyny with regards to a Grand Theft Auto game, takes the mick it really does. Had this been a woman, slightly different story. Misogyny is hating women, are you being serious that somebody reviewing GTA V as a game is going to come away from that and say it's woman hating. Just because there are a few stereotypes. You might as well say it's racist, because Franklin is a typical gangsta from the hood or Trevor is a redneck.

The reviewer looked at GTA with a big chip on their shoulder, not about GTA but about life. That crossed over into the review and had no place. That crossed a line to my mind, when you job is reviewing games. It's not about the score it's about the lack of justification for that score.