What about 200$ or is that pushin... LouieV13

its pushing into the mid range category, in which Nvidia hopes to sell 8600 GTS, which is not going strong these days

why not look at the x1950 PRO or wait for july for the 2600 although i highly doublt they will outperform the 8600s

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[QUOTE="roulettethedog"]You are trying to tell me that the 8800gtx is not much better then any AGP card.:roll: What cards were compared ,at what resolution, and what games were these cards tested on? Your like is a dead one like your argument.:lol:nic4games

We are talking about no card needing more then the 8x bandwidth that AGP has to offer.

Going from a PCI-e 16x card/slot to the same card with an AGP card/slot the performance is very similar.  No card needs the 16x that PCI-e has to offer, as demonstrated by the benchmarks of 8800GTX running on an SLI 8x board and then on a SLI 16x board.

I know that I over dramatised it,but the simple fact is that newer games require faster C.P.U.'s and almost all the mobo's out now are pci-express, so the original posters argument is irrelevant. Having a Core2 or X2 C.P.U. for a minimum requirement is not that far off.

 then why some manufacturers still manufacture AGP cards? Like geforce 7950 AGP

if you said that PCIe already outfaced AGP then why some manufacturers still manufacture it?  It means that AGP is still alive and can be used still.  And i think, AGP will only be outface if the manufacturers themselves will stop making AGP cards.  Am i correct?

As long as there is a market for AGP cards, companies will make AGP. The AGP market will die off once new games requirements for C.P.U.'s are higher then the old AGP mobo's can handle. Heck there is still a pci video card market.:D

AGP cards will still survive ten years or so...

are PCI cards bought anymore, are they.no sir, the AGP cards will survive as long as the CPU requirements stay in single core territory

im sick of searching sites for info, please, can someone tell me wats up this year involving PC tech

you can get upgrades later,then, i would get a intel mobo and a Pd and when you have the money, get a core2, duo or quad as time and money permits.for the rest, i dont konw wether the 8500 beats the 7600 or not but if it does, i would take it