@northArrow: I kinda disagree,,,,forza horizon is the best open world driving game EVER, gears 4 is a blast even though it IS familiar territory. sunset overdrive hell I still play it.....im one of the people who loved quantum break...and I'm looking forward to cities skylines, sea of thieves, cuphead, crackdown and state of decay 2......not to mention of course......halo.MCC was the best value campaign disc ever..and....I prefer the xb 3rd party crossover games because I prefer microsofts live service. Noone is worse than Nintendo for recycling as you say.....but it works for them....when did Nintendo have a great new ip on the Zelda level?

actually most of the best games ever made are sequels or follow ups

@urbanman2004: given xb1 had good games in 2016 and outsold the ps4 for 6 months in the usa, and a few months in the uk...if the games come....it will be exactly as you say.....the eager public is definately there.

one great aspect though is....existing games will run better....significantly so....xb1 and 360

without patches....that's an exciring prospect on its own...kudos to microsoft there....as an xb1 owner its made it a must buy for me.....solid framerate witcher 3? yes please.....happy to play the great games with great framerates...and possible 60fps patches from devs....whilst I wait for the new games

I really don't think you guys at gamespot listened or understood what digital foundry said in the hardware reveal and the forza demo they saw. They stated that forza ran at native 4k 60fps and it took only 2 days to port. it was being shown with NO OPTIMIZATION to save gpu or cpu resources and still only used 70 percent max. Also that's with all cars on screen and unlike the standard xbox one version, every car had the same detail level as the car you drove in. he had also been shown detail levels akin to pc ultra settings, again without optimization, and it still ran flawlessly at 60fps 4k

so no.....it wasn't the xbox one graphics version they saw but at 4k....it was much more, and at various levels