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#1  Edited By genius2365
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@br0kenrabbit: Hmm, I'm actually already sort of doing this. While I'm not usually the one asking questions in a group conversation, I will occasionally pop a question like ''How's your newborn sister doing? It must be tough taking care of her'' or ''How have you managed to balance social life/sleep/grades this semester''. The only thing I am missing is frequency and actually giving the compliment (like the accent example you gave earlier). I just don't give out compliments unless it's a girl I'm actually interested in. In group settings, it becomes even more awkward.

And your accent example is actually something I wanted to bring up to a girl in my class. Too bad she doesn't seem interested in talking to me beyond a 30 second ''how's it going?'' (hence my main issue). Maybe she's just not interested (though her smiles and glances towards me in class are certainly mixing me up), and that's ok.

@korvus: It's not that I was really worrying much. Obviously most of us wish we could be in a relationship with someone else, and that is no different with me. I was just curious if there was something minor that I was missing, but overall I am pretty happy with my ''Just wait, do your thing, and it'll happen'' kind of approach. I have a feeling it might more the college syndrome of ''everyone is making out and has someone but me'' kind of thing that is making me worried. When I talk to a girl I like, I'm not really worried about whether she'll stick around and be my girlfriend forever. I just try to make first contact, break the ice and be friendly/kind, and then what bugs me from there is the fact I rarely get the favor returned (as in, she doesn't come and talk to me after class.) Maybe it's just bad luck or a small sample size, but I'm hoping that if I continue just doing my own thing and not worrying about it, that it'll turn around before I know it.

Maybe it's just seeing what everyone else is doing that's getting me set up for disappointment. No point in rushing I guess. It'll happen when it happens, right ;)

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@toast_burner said:

@genius2365 said:

I'm not sure if I fit the mold of a ''nice guy'' like you guys have been discussing, but the part where you talked about ''girls should give guys a chance'' is certainly a bit like what I am going through. I'm very introverted, but I have improved a lot over the past couple of years. Going out with friends, speaking up in class, etc. has certainly helped. I can now carry myself in social events rather well. No longer the awkward shy guy like I once was.

Now, even though I feel much better in social situations (dress better, speak with confidence, eye contact, etc.), I'm wondering what the next step would be so that girls could ''give me a chance'' as they call it. I feel like patience and time is all I require, but it doesn't help that the girls I've like and talked to just don't seem interested. Now, maybe it's the fact that I've only done this a handful of times (baby steps, right?), but is this what a nice guy is? I'm not someone who would randomly flirt with girls just for the heck of it. I'm not a playboy.

My friends call me serious, mature, smart, confident. I'm in college studying sciences (the doctor and engineer kind). They say I'll surely find someone, but this just makes me curious as to whether they're just trying to say in a discreet way that I'm too much of a nice guy. I've never complained about women not being interested in me, since I've learned that like everything in life, you're going to have to work to get something you want, and I feel that just being able to speak with women in a natural way is a big improvement I've made over my past shy self. I'm just curious if what I am doing is too much ''nice guy'', if it's even at all.

The problem with the "just give me a chance" attitude is why should they give you a chance? I don't mean to sound rude but look at it from their perspective, they will have met hundreds of guys and seen thousands more, they don't see you as a nice guy, you're just some guy.

There needs to be more than just "I'm a guy and you're a woman" you need to have things in common, something to build off.

That's a pretty fair assertion (no need to excuse yourself for being rude). I totally understand it. Which is why that I said that maybe time and patience was all I need. Like you said, you need something in common, not necessarily hobbies, but life goals in general. Maybe the next girl I talk to will be the one, maybe the tenth one, but I guess the important thing is to have the important things down first, like confidence and speaking ability, so that when a chance does come along, I'll be ready.

After that, I don't know. I'm relatively inexperienced with women, which is why I was sort of asking the question of what is the next step. Now, I do try to stand out in my own way (answering the teacher's questions in class, being friendly and helpful to my classmates, etc.), but I don't see myself being president of Club X. Like I said, I don't strive to be the center of attention, but I know you need to distinguish yourself from the hundreds of other guys that try to go out with girls. How to do that, is what the next step is, I believe. The question is, how?

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@genius2365 said:

That's true, I see your point. I meant it in a context where you're doing it to impress a girl and make her notice you/increase her interest in you. I always viewed flirting as a step in romantic relationship. Thanks for clearing that up.

By flirting with every girl, you'll find it easier to flirt with a girl you find interesting. With the experience of flirting you'll find it more natural and easier to take it 'that extra step', you'll be able to waltz right into it instead of stumbling along. You're not just practicing your moves by flirting, but learning what kind of reactions to expect and how to react to that.

Plus, girls like you more if other girls like you. It's just the way it is.

You seem to know quite a lot about this. Seeing as how I only got my first female friend about a year ago, I feel like you would have a lot of knowledge to impart upon inexperienced guys such as myself.

Care to share some examples on how it this ''art of flirting'' is done? Especially with girls you have little interest in? At the moment, my speech meter only has Interested and Not Interested. Don't have any middle zones.

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@br0kenrabbit said:

@genius2365 said:
I'm not someone who would randomly flirt with girls just for the heck of it. I'm not a playboy.

Wrong answer. You flirt with every girl and woman, you just adapt how you do it to the situation. You can certainly flirt with a woman in front of her husband without offending either. Flirty =/= sexy, just friendly.

That's true, I see your point. I meant it in a context where you're doing it to impress a girl and make her notice you/increase her interest in you. I always viewed flirting as a step in romantic relationship. Thanks for clearing that up.

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I'm not sure if I fit the mold of a ''nice guy'' like you guys have been discussing, but the part where you talked about ''girls should give guys a chance'' is certainly a bit like what I am going through. I'm very introverted, but I have improved a lot over the past couple of years. Going out with friends, speaking up in class, etc. has certainly helped. I can now carry myself in social events rather well. No longer the awkward shy guy like I once was.

Now, even though I feel much better in social situations (dress better, speak with confidence, eye contact, etc.), I'm wondering what the next step would be so that girls could ''give me a chance'' as they call it. I feel like patience and time is all I require, but it doesn't help that the girls I've liked and talked to just don't seem interested, with one them even saying that I'm a ''nice guy, but... '' Now, maybe it's the fact that I've only done this a handful of times (baby steps, right?), but is this what a nice guy is? I'm not someone who would randomly flirt with girls just for the heck of it. I'm not a playboy.

My friends call me serious, mature, smart, confident. I'm in college studying sciences (the doctor and engineer kind). They say I'll surely find someone, but this just makes me curious as to whether they're just trying to say in a discreet way that I'm too much of a nice guy. I've never complained about women not being interested in me, since I've learned that like everything in life, you're going to have to work to get something you want, and I feel that just being able to speak with women in a natural way is a big improvement I've made over my past shy self. I'm just curious if what I am doing is too much ''nice guy'', if it's even at all.

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Still at a grand total of zero girlfriends in college so far. Like others on this thread, I'm more of a ''waiting for the right one'' kind of person. Initially, it was my general social awkwardness that kept me on the sidelines. Back in high school, I didn't really have any female friends, and was generally considered the shy skinny guy who was very smart but had no social skills. Now, I can say I know as many guys as I do girls in college, which is something I was happy to improve upon. Guess maturity and hard work does get recognized as you grow older (I've been considered by many as too serious and mature since my childhood). And now, whether it's through some combination of growing up and making myself more presentable (better clothes, cologne, etc.), it seems to be paying off.

In fact, past couple of classes me and this girl have been trading eye contact, and she waves me high and smiles whenever she comes to class. Today, I went up to her after class and mentioned some random comment about the workload we're getting since we are approaching mid-semester. She laughed and we talked a bit, and she was just giving me this really beautiful smile that I can't get out of my head. Only thing was that she seemed to be in a rush for another class and was checking her phone on occasion, but other than that she seems really nice and honest. Hoping to talk to her again next class, and take it from there :)

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@genius2365: When liking the idea of doing projects for some reason then the work related to it is fulfilling experience. Interests differ by the person, but I would say we can both agree that helping other people is a happy experience. If anything, I suggest you do volunteer work to gain some perspective on the value of your actions. When I was an active member of my boy scout troop, I worked at a soup kitchen. After that, I built relationships with children of an adopted and underprivileged families, so they could have a healthy growing environment and know that people care about them. I benefited as well by making new friends. Now, I am a volunteer for GameSpot and I feel happier knowing that I am making GameSpot a better place, overall, because of my actions. As a CS major, I am learning an education that can not only benefit myself financially, of course, and psychologically, but something that can benefit society in some way. I believe that if people work towards assisting everyone who would like to have a better life experience with opportunities for success that they might not otherwise have then there would be a greater amount of minds as a resource (not just for America) both for projects started out of necessity and luxury.

I am emphasizing that what you do is your choice and it can have an impact. Think about it.

Well, that's sort of something I'm looking to try and do as well. Making a solid choice and making sure I am satisfied with it and that it has an impact, big or small. Problem is that I don't know what would be a solid choice for me. Volunteering sounds like a great idea to get some perspective on why I would want to make a good choice regarding a future career, but I already work part-time and don't really have much free time in my week anymore.

I want my job to be fulfilling and challenging, and I would be disappointed with myself if I ended up with a simple office job and just spent years going on with watching sports, paying taxes, etc. I want to have a job that has some sort of benefit, something I can do everyday and say ''Yeah, this is what I like doing!''. But like I said, my options for university programs are vast, and my ways to narrow down my options are rather non-existant at the moment. So I'm stuck, for now.

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Don't know what the comparable is here for Canada, but I'm in Cegep (an intermediate step between high school and university) and am currently in the Sciences Program, doing Calculus 2, Chemistry, Physics, and some general education courses like English, Gym, etc.

No idea what I want to do once in university, or later on in general, which makes it difficult to get myself motivated. Once I get my diploma, I could go in pretty much any field from engineering to computers, and even some fields of medicine (with my current grades from Semester 1).

Problem is that, in general, everything interests me, from History to Politics, Science and Space. Took the science program because it leaves the most possible career avenues open for the future, but at some point I'll have to make a decision. I have tried dabbling into computer programming, electronics, etc., but nothing has clicked for me in a passionate way, in terms of something I want to do for a very long time. I hope I get a spark or direction figured out soon enough.

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@johnd13 said:

@indzman said:

@johnd13 said:

I live in Greece.

Land of Spartans O_O

And one of the kernels of civilization! But the glorious past is being overshadowed by the shit present lol. :(

A fellow greek! My grand-parents were born in Greece, but they moved to Canada (Montreal, specifically) when things got tough in the 1960s. Now we are all settled in Canada

I had gone to Greece for the first time about a year ago. From a vacation/tourist standpoint, it was the best! Food was even more awesome than usual greek food, weather is perfect (was sunny every day for a month when I had gone, and it sure beats -40 degree snowstorms), and had plenty of family to visit and things to do.

From the viewpoint of your average citizen living in Greece, I definitely see that things are quite difficult. My poor grand-father still has such an attachment to his home country that he watches the 3 greek channels they have access to 24/7. He couldn't tell you if there was a water advisory on his own street, but talk to him about the state of greece in terms of politics and he goes on and on explaining who did what, who's fault it is for what, etc.

I can only hope things improve down there. Such a beautiful country and people, would be a shame to see all that history and culture wasted by some squabbling politics :(

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5'10. Considered average here in Canada, but I still have a few years of growth in me according to my doctor (in my late teens). Eat well and sleep well and you'll grow and extra inch or two. Easier said than done when you're in college...

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@genius2365 said:

What if you do the SLI or Crossfire with the goal of having more FPS, or having higher graphics settings for games? A bump in texture quality or FPS will show up on screen regardless of whether it's a 200$ screen or a 1000$ screen. Now, the 1000$ screen might display it better in terms of color reproduction and contrast ratio, but is the difference really worth 800$, when you can wait about a year and get those monitors at a more reasonable price? Not to mention that for your average consumer, an 800$ price difference is huge, since for them most people, a 200$ monitor is plenty good for their needs (even most gamers, who are usually more concerned about things like response time, can be found in sub-200$ monitors).

Obviously G-Sync is an interesting technology and I heard it's doing great things to eliminate stutter and tearing, but because it's a new technology, there is a price premium that comes with that, and just like any new technology, it's often better to wait it out and give the tech a chance to mature and drop in price before investing in it. It might be worthwhile for you since you want the best of the best in terms of quality, and it's understandable, because for you the value of having great color reproduction, contrast ratio, less stutter, etc. is worth the extra cost, especially in the long run. But for some people, these are little more than minor annoyances (or don't even bother them at all in some cases) and don't warrant the extra price, at least until they become more reasonable.

My point is that the first reason that people tend to use SLI and Crossfire for is ''I want my games to have higher FPS and texture quality'' rather than ''I now have the ability to support a better monitor'', since an increase of the in-game graphics quality is a lot more noticeable to your average gamer than the millionth shade of a color difference on screen.

Last paragraph makes no sense.

"I want my games to have higher FPS (ok I agree with that) and texture quality (your not going to be able to appreciate the texture difference if the monitor cant reproduce the colours to the highest quality)"

Try play Skyrim with the ENB mod or any other graphics quality mod on the Gsync monitor vs the HP DreamColor LP2480zx and you will see the difference. Its not a gaming monitor or anything, its for photoshop and video editing.

In-game graphics and millionth shade of colour mean the same thing, horror games or any game in a dark environment has lots of shades of black/gray and its a gritty environment.

When it comes to colors, your description is fair enough. However, you vastly overestimate it's importance.

The bolded part is also illogical. Tell me, does anybody need an 1000$ monitor to appreciate something like this?

Yes, when it comes to stuff like ENB mods, the monitor can make a slight difference. But anyone can and will notice this improvement in textures regardless of what monitor they use. I'm on a 200$ monitor at the moment, and while I can see myself getting a G-Sync monitor once prices go down, you can't really justify spending 1000$ when spending 200$, you get the same picture and the same improvement. Color reproduction and contrast ratio might make a subtle impact, but it comes down to whether that subtle impact is worth 1000$.

The point that I made in my last paragraph is the fact that the pic I posted above is the reason why people upgrade their GPUs: to get better graphics, textures, FPS, etc. An 1000$ monitor and a 200$ monitor will display the exact same improvement in quality in terms of texture. You would be looking at the exact same thing on both monitors. And to be honest, how much better would this picture be had there been better contrast ratio/color reproduction on this pic?

The point is that if getting a GPU is like purchasing a car, getting an 1000$ monitor over a cheaper one is like adding an extra coat of paint to the car to make sure it hits just the right shade, while the important part of the visual, the shape and aesthetic of the car, is determined by textures and FPS. Do people judge the aesthetic of cars based off an extra coat of paint (monitor effect), or based on the cleanliness, smoothness and shaping of the car (texture and FPS effect)? I think the answer is obvious