@darkelf83: you realize ms is trying to get rid of steam right, windows 10 is actually made to make it difficult for steam to even operate properly

@uzi9mm: I mean, yeah, as far as consoles go, the graphics card equivalent in that thing is similar to what was used in a pc 5 years ago (atleast considered new) it doesn't actually play true 4K, about 3/4 that actually, and all games except cod are locked at 30 fps, meanwhile we can get true 4K at 140 fps if we want

@wexorian: i would still call this mid range, got a computer last year as a present, 900 dollars worth computer (graduation gift) thats considered low end gaming pc, 8gb, and a gtx 745 ( i just replaced my gpu for a 1060 6gb, now its a mid range) high end would be roughly $3k, but yes, this is mid range, you cant think just about today and what it can do, how long is it gonna last,

@wexorian: or budget building, cause not everyone can go out and spend 3k+ on a custom built

@cugabuh: just go out one day after pay day and pick up a 1060, i got one and i get about $350 paychecks

@sellingthings: honestly money was probably the main concern on that decision

I'm well aware of the differences between computers and consoles, I'm currently trying to get a 1060 for mine,

I also know the resolution is the only difference between ps4 and ps4 pro, which is stupid.

But yeah consoles cut back a ton on visual quality so it runs on a 500ish card

Pc are better than consoles I agree as far as performance goes, as long as you maintain it properly, like any machine

But yeah, consoles cut back a lot visually so it runs on a 500ish series card

@sellingthings: they are stopping sli support because two 1060s would give similar performance to a 1080, which is way more than 2 1060s

@bfa1509: sony stated its not true 4k, it has about 3/4ths of the pixels 4k does, but that you wont be able to tell

@joshrmeyer: i got a wireless pair for like 8 bucks