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#1 alexfla
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So from reading all of the posts, it seems like the build I posted is fine except for the weak GPU and unnecassry CPU. You guys also think I should build my own. I'm telling you guys, I think I would actually break something. I don't mind paying a bit more if it is done for me. It's probably the best option for someone like me. I think I will look for a PC on the HP site that has an i5 like Bpoole said and replace the gpu with a GTX 570 or Radeon 7850.

EDIT: Didn't see these recent posts and Bpooles message. Is buying prebuilt really that bad? Bpooles suggestion looks pretty good though and it will turn out cheaper in the long run. If I can find a place around me that will put all of that together I might go with his suggestion. I got some thinking to do.

cloudff7tm

There are a few problem with the HP prebuild systemother than what you mention here. I will break it down for you.

1. Case is terrible. Terrible because it will be very small and difficult work with if you want to change the powersupply(you need to) and of course video card. Also a lot of video cards won't even fit in that case and if they do, it will be super tight like bending it to the side and you may even break the PCI-E slot or videocard connectors installing it.

2. The power supply is trash. It will defenitely not be adequate to power your system with a decent card. Especially if you want to overclock which you should if you are spending the money to get a K processor.

3. The motherboard is trash. Why settle for the junk they give you when you can get at least a middle end ASUS or Gigabyte board? If you're going to overclcok ASUS boards do it for you. You can get your CPU to 4.2 GHZ without any work at all. Just flip a switch and you're there.

4. Your system will come with a bunch of bloatware that will slow down your boot times and just be a hassle to deal with all around. And you won't get a copy of Windows 7. This means if you ever have a problem with a virus and you need to re-install Windows, you can't. It's much better to you a full copy of Windows 7 especially since you paid for it.

5. CPU cooler is stock. That is trash. You can get a nice cooler for ~$30 which will allow you to overclock very nicely while keeping your CPU cool. I personally don't go crazy with overclocking. I just have my i7 3770k at 4.2 Ghz. But I still think it's nice to do so with an aftermarket coole that is super quiet and keeps things very cool.

6. The price may seem nice at ~$900 but when you add the expense of a new PSU and Video Card then it really isn't very cheap at all.

If you absolutely don't want to build your own PC I understand. That's fine. What I would do in that case is buy one from www.cyberpowerpc.com

You can hand pick the parts, they offer free shipping with some of their builds and the price will be just a tad bit higher than if you were to build it yourself.

They also offer you a 3 year warranty and lifetime 24/7 technical support.

Go to their website and go down to the Mega Special II and customize it to your liking. It starts at $1025 but offers free shipping and I have found it to be the best value compared to pricing out any other of their specials.

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So from reading all of the posts, it seems like the build I posted is fine except for the weak GPU and unnecassry CPU. You guys also think I should build my own. I'm telling you guys, I think I would actually break something. I don't mind paying a bit more if it is done for me. It's probably the best option for someone like me. I think I will look for a PC on the HP site that has an i5 like Bpoole said and replace the gpu with a GTX 570 or Radeon 7850.

EDIT: Didn't see these recent posts and Bpooles message. Is buying prebuilt really that bad? Bpooles suggestion looks pretty good though and it will turn out cheaper in the long run. If I can find a place around me that will put all of that together I might go with his suggestion. I got some thinking to do.

cloudff7tm

There are a few problem with the HP prebuild systemother than what you mention here. I will break it down for you.

1. Case is terrible. Terrible because it will be very small and difficult work with if you want to change the powersupply(you need to) and of course video card. Also a lot of video cards won't even fit in that case and if they do, it will be super tight like bending it to the side and you may even break the PCI-E slot or videocard connectors installing it.

2. The power supply is trash. It will defenitely not be adequate to power your system with a decent card. Especially if you want to overclock which you should if you are spending the money to get a K processor.

3. The motherboard is trash. Why settle for the junk they give you when you can get at least a middle end ASUS or Gigabyte board? If you're going to overclcok ASUS boards do it for you. You can get your CPU to 4.2 GHZ without any work at all. Just flip a switch and you're there.

4. Your system will come with a bunch of bloatware that will slow down your boot times and just be a hassle to deal with all around. And you won't get a copy of Windows 7. This means if you ever have a problem with a virus and you need to re-install Windows, you can't. It's much better to you a full copy of Windows 7 especially since you paid for it.

5. CPU cooler is stock. That is trash. You can get a nice cooler for ~$30 which will allow you to overclock very nicely while keeping your CPU cool. I personally don't go crazy with overclocking. I just have my i7 3770k at 4.2 Ghz. But I still think it's nice to do so with an aftermarket coole that is super quiet and keeps things very cool.

6. The price may seem nice at ~$900 but when you add the expense of a new PSU and Video Card then it really isn't very cheap at all.

If you absolutely don't want to build your own PC I understand. That's fine. What I would do in that case is buy one from www.cyberpowerpc.com

You can hand pick the parts, they offer free shipping with some of their builds and the price will be just a tad bit higher than if you were to build it yourself.

They also offer you a 3 year warranty and lifetime 24/7 technical support.

Go to their website and go down to the Mega Special II and customize it to your liking. It starts at $1025 but offers free shipping and I have found it to be the best value compared to pricing out any other of their specials.

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#3 alexfla
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everyone said it maxed early with Gears 1. Well, now we're seeing things on the 360 that most thought was not possible, that is games that actually look better than PS3 exclusives.

With games such as Crysis 2, Tomb Raider, Gears 3, Rage and Forza 4 we can now say, DAMN this system has the hidden powa!

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not trying to be a downer but this game is over a decade old and most of us have played it about 10 times by now.....and the graphical updates are lacking, this is almost like the "Half-life: Source" that Vavle released with HL2 and it looked just like the original except it had ragdoll physics and nice water...dissapointing

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Don't forget that it will have a stunning 3D effect that will immerse you into the Zelda world unlike ever before.

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Zelda, it's been arguably the best since the mid 80s.

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#6 alexfla
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Two to two and a half years. Last time MS started hiring like they are now took two years for the Xbox 360 to hit stores. KC_Hokie


To set up the techincal details a few months. To design the look of the console, design a new state of the art controller, ship out dev kits to developers to have a meaningful launch lineup plus follow up games then we're talking approximately 2 years.

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#7 alexfla
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The rumor mill has been going strong with insider Wii HD leaks. You would think the big surprise(not anymore) Nintendo has for us is that they are launching a new console. But not so, apparantly they have a BIG surprise for us. What could be bigger than that? We all know about the console and we know about the controller. What is left for them to surprise us with?

Well, I think the big surprise is the new console will be launching right away. I mean like maybe even a few weeks after E3. This is something that really will blow me away if it's true. Most of us are expecting it much later. For them to announce, AND IT IS NOW AVAILABLE IN ALL MAJOR US RETAILERS will be like OMFG!!!!111!

What do you people believe the big surprise will be?

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#8 alexfla
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[QUOTE="alexfla"]

You have to factor in that the PS4 and Xbox720 will be launching in 2014 at the earliest. If they continue the trend of 10 year lifespans then they will be around until the year 2024. Taking this into consideration, 4 GB of Ram is way too small. 4 GB of RAM would be great if the 720 and PS4 launched late this year or late last year even. In 2014, a bare minimum of 8 GB of RAM will be required. 12 GB should be considered.

As far as the Wii, for the type of system they are shooting for I think 2 GB of RAM will be just fine. They could even get away with 1 GB. If the rumors are true of a 512 MB RAM Wii2 then they are in big trouble. Of course they could always launch a Wii3 in 2016 to fix things.

savagetwinkie

crysis only uses like 1.2 gbs and no one has topped that since 2007, i think 4gbs is plenty for a console, 6gb is the most reasonable for long term



Crysis will look like a dinosaur in 2024. Most of us will be middle aged by then and some of us seniors. 6 GB is nothing when you put it into perspective like that.

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#9 alexfla
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I don't see Nintendo ever releasing a system that costs more than 300 at retail. gamer620


Did you foresee them releasing a portable for $250?

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#10 alexfla
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Dated tech and over priced? Not surprisedMFDOOM1983
Dated tech? It's proven tech that is also reasonably state of the art. What is wrong with these specs?

How is an overclocked 360 reasonably state of the art?



The 360 and PS3 are roughly equal in performance and currently retail for $300. The Wii2 should be considerably more powerful than that and priced at $350 - $400. It makes sense to me. It's reasonably state of the art and correctly priced compared to what's out there now.