That link says that Microsoft now makes 75 bucks per console sold... that doesn't mean Microsoft is out of the red yet though. Microsoft is expecting to make profits by 2008. Not too bad of a goal.Kinitari

No they still have R&D and other expendures.

[QUOTE="ryanzoso"]This says otherwise  http://www.gamespot.com/news/6161925.html[/QUOTE]

"Though it had no breakdown of the Wii, this week's iSuppli study did comment on the cost of another next-gen console. Thanks to streamlined processes and ample component supplies, iSuppli estimates that Microsoft now makes $75.70 per Xbox 360 console."

How many 360 games are there gonna be that use the SAME modded unreal engine?  It is PATHETIC!!! Sushimaster

I asked this before when some other Sony fanboy said the same thing, and I'll ask you now.

What does the game engine have to do with anything?  The artist decide how it looks.

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="DarkSlain"]

[QUOTE="TheThreeSixOh"]What does that have to do with my belief that the 360 will sell better? The PS3 costs a ton of money, and nothing you can say will change that. DarkSlain

Well nothing tonight anyway...

or tomorrow, or the day after that, or the day after.............you get the picture.

Well you can't just say that because you never know what other news sony will publish.

Like they were just kidding with the ridiculously high price? 

You wish.  No, kid.  what you saw is what you'll get.  If anything they'll probably take more features off.

[QUOTE="TheThreeSixOh"]What does that have to do with my belief that the 360 will sell better? The PS3 costs a ton of money, and nothing you can say will change that. DarkSlain

Well nothing tonight anyway...

or tomorrow, or the day after that, or the day after.............you get the picture.

No one wants to pay $400 for a dumbed down PC that offers nothing new from last gen when for  $100/$200 more you can get the most powerful system with many useful multimedia features and the best/most exclusive games.

Most all console sales are long after launch when price breaks come around anyways.... and at the point when both consoles are affordable to most people, won't they want to get the better one?
Lazy_Boy88

For $499 you either get a janky Blu-Ray player with no HDMI, which makes it no better than a DVD player, or you get an overpriced gaming console no more powerful that the 360 and missing memory card slots, WiFi ability, and rumble features in the controller.

Stop trying to use last week's argument, kid.  E3 just happened ans Sony has over-promised and under-delivered as usual.

Not to mention that people know that if they wait for the "next" consoles to come out, they will be getting what the 360 has to offer (plus games) and more. I must stress the fact that the 360 (& Microsoft in general) BLOWS donkey dong in the GAMES department, for anyone who does not like first person games. Sushimaster

I didn't know Kameo, Madden, Lost Planet, Enchanted Arms, Blue Dragon, Dead Rising, Viva Pinata, and a slew of others were first person.

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

Sorry, kid.  Sony failed to sell me and a lot of people on the PS3

DarkSlain

Well the PS3 isn't out yet...

But the idea of E3 is to sell it to me.  And they failed to do that with me and a vast amount of people.

Most of you lot don't get it, the PS3 is a next generation console!

So is the 360.  Next.

It will have Blue-Ray (which xbox 360 hasn't got) and will all be in HD!

The 360 is in HD as well.

"what the hell is Blu-Ray, and why should I pay up to an extra $200 for it?" average consumer.

Not to mention the $499 version doesn have HDMI which makes it useless as a Blu-Ray player.

In fact just stop saying that the xbox 360 will outsell the PS3, be thankful that all console developers are going forward with their technology, at least give the PS3 a chance!

DarkSlain