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@NorseLax09: The Democrat Party would absolutely love to regulate guns out of existence. They are 100% doing their best to ban guns through the backdoor. I'm all for the proper screening and background checks, but make no mistake, this is their goal.

Don't like the car argument, ok look at London, how about knives? They are literally banning them. Do we need to travel down the same path of stupidity or actually focus on the underlying problem? You think this puke from Jacksonville would have figured out to use a bomb if he really wanted?

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@Richardthe3rd: First of all you need a permit and background check to purchase a gun, so what the hell are you talking about?

Second my point is if a homicidal maniac wants to kill, they will. Cars were used to kill in Nice, France, Las Vegas, NYC. Stop blaming the method and focus on the root cause.

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@Richardthe3rd: Umm actually guns require a permit and through background check, so what the hell are you talking about.

Thankfully I have never had to use a gun for self defense, however there are countless that HAVE used guns for self defense so again, what the hell are you talking about?

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@NorseLax09: 1. Obviously! My point is that if you take a gun away from a suicidal manic he will simply find another method to kill! Stop blaming the device and lets focus on the root of the problem.

2. I literally just read this from MSN.com: The young man's mental health and treatment were among the issues at the center of a contentious decade-long divorce case between his parents. I guess that makes at least 23 of 28.

3. Not at all, but I am reading between the lines. As I said the 2A will never be repealed. The next best thing Leftist/anit-gun activists can do is regulate guns to extinction, which will be the next best thing to official repeal. Instead lets focus on the root of the problem.

4. You said: "The second amendment contains language intended for arming well regulated militias, not necessarily every day citizens...". The point is Militias ARE made up of every day citizens!! Not professional service men! The 2A is exactly intended to protect the right to bear arms for everyday citizens, simple as that.

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@Richardthe3rd: I guess you missed the part where it reads "the right of the people to keep and bear arms"???

Oh and just read this from MSN.com: "The young man's mental health and treatment were among the issues at the center of a contentious decade-long divorce case between his parents." Keep blaming the guns though.

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@NorseLax09: I am all for enforcing our gun laws, but as I've stated in other posts, the 2A will never be repealed. Writing more laws with more gun restrictions/background checks is a backdoor way of repealing it. It is a slippery slope.

The "rest of the developed world" also has issues with knives and being run over by cars. A homicidal manic will simply change his method of killing. As you said, stop blaming the gun and lets focus on the cultural and societal issues.

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@craigtl: The 2A will never be repealed, so more regulation and background checks is a backdoor way of repealing it. I am all for keeping guns out of minors and lunatics hands, but it is a slippery slope.

Can't say I hear much about bombs going off, however knives and being run over by cars IS a problem. London's is now banning knives! Totally ridiculous.

The root of our cultural problems stems from home. A stat from about a year ago stated 22 of the 27 mass shooters came from broken homes. These shooters have issues of dealing with failure and rejection. The homicidal manic will only change their method of killing. Passing more gun laws will make you feel good, but will not solve a damn thing.

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@NorseLax09: Right, so let’s say we ban guns like Leftists want. Then this clown uses a car to kill. Is your next move to ban cars? You see it’s a culture/societal problem, NOT a gun problem.

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@madcow78: EXACTLY! There’s nothing we can do about cars. If a homicidal maniac wants to kill then they will kill. Like in Nice, France where guns are banned but 70+ were run over or in NYC a few years ago.

I mean bombs that can be made.

Don’t know what the same hell you are talking about here? Are you referring to illegal aliens who have broken the law by crossing the border?

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@NorseLax09: 1. Let me try again, this time in Liberalese, when a homicidal manic used a car to run over 70+ people in France is your solution to ban cars? Or what about the manic who ran over people in NYC? A guns purpose is self defense and to keep a tyrannical government in check, learn your US history.

2. Maybe try reading your own counter argument. The link you provided was a correction stating: "we found maybe four or five of the 27 shooters that we could definitively conclude (without doubt) had been raised in an intact family, or a family that included the biological dad at home, or a biological father who was consistently at home." So it was 22 of 27, not 26. Let me be more clear, these shooters are snowflakes that don't know how to deal with rejection or failure. That is a culture/home problem.

3. Haha I'm the snowflake! The 2A will never be repealed, however these background checks and "mental health screenings" is a backdoor way of effectively repealing the 2A.

4. Allow me to post what the 2A says: "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." For further clarification, from Wikipedia: "James Madison. In Federalist No. 46, Madison wrote how a federal army could be kept in check by state militias, "a standing army ... would be opposed [by] a militia." In other words, a state militia, made up of citizens, could keep a tyrannical Federal Government in check. It also clearly states, "the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms".

Bottom line, I am all for keeping guns out of minors and homicidal maniacs hands. But this is a cultural/societal problem that starts at the home. Banning guns via the backdoor will not solve a damn thing.