[QUOTE="Niner_Empire"][QUOTE="allnamestaken"]The point is, money needs to start moving again. Government redistribution will get it moving again. Creating money out of thin air, not a good idea, but when the top economic advisers in the country, both on the Republican side and on the Democratic side, believe a stimulus package is what is best for the economy. I'll take there advice. If you want to go the other way with this argument though, and base it on ideological terms I still believe that government intervention is important to stabilize and correct an economy.allnamestaken

You should be the one having to prove expert economists are wrong on this issue not I, proving why they're right. And ofcourse I'm open to the idea that I may be wrong, I don't know every fact on the U.S. economy, so I trust experts. Maybe your analysis may be incorrect?

Ideologically though, I don't believe either of us is right, it's all about who spends the money, and is a matter of opinion. Personally, I like having the government there as a safety net.

The point is, money needs to start moving again. Government redistribution will get it moving again. Creating money out of thin air, not a good idea, but when the top economic advisers in the country, both on the Republican side and on the Democratic side, believe a stimulus package is what is best for the economy. I'll take there advice. If you want to go the other way with this argument though, and base it on ideological terms I still believe that government intervention is important to stabilize and correct an economy.allnamestaken

that's BS, he's been a top 3 quarterback all season......but then again, its the pro bowl. Rivers should be glad that he wasn't invited to participate in that garbagesilky_smooth8

i hope you guys realize that nothing obama can do matters as much as bernanke's decisions. monetary policy is what we should be scared of right now, not fiscal.lilburtonboy748

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[QUOTE="allnamestaken"] So.. you post... a ... link ... to ... You...tube... as .... proof...allnamestaken

Also, the video is meant to explain Keynesian economics. I know most people arent interested in reading especially since it hurts your eyes when doing so on the computer.

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[QUOTE="allnamestaken"] I'm really not trying to be offensive, my brain isn't working at full capacity for some reason tonight, But if I recall, all you've said in this thread is that we should cut taxes and that it's sad how the people who complained about Bush's spending have now voted Obama into office. First off, can you show me proof or evidence that cutting taxes would benefit the economy in any significant way? Maybe people would just hoard the money instead of spending it like we would need to get the economy moving again. I have not looked over Obama's economic plan thoroughly, but from what I hear alot of spending will be put into things like infrastructure and schools, this spending will not only improve communities, but is sure to be spent, unlike the extra money people may save on tax cuts. Secondly, I think you'd find Democrats disliked Bush not necessarily because he spent money, but in the ways he spent it. Like the war for instance.allnamestaken

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I forgot to point out that if one believes that this stimulus package would work, then obviously a tax relief would as well. Giving people back their money is... well giving back their money. Its just a matter of finding the right way to do it.

From the article:

"Obama is promoting a recovery plan that would feature spending on roads and other infrastructure projects, energy-efficient government buildings, new and renovated schools and environmentally friendly technologies.

There would also be some form of tax relief, according to the Obama team, which is well aware of the political difficulty of pushing such a large package through Congress, even in a time of recession. Any tax cuts would be aimed at middle- and lower-income taxpayers, and aides have said there would be no tax increases for wealthy Americans."

It sounds alot like he will be spending money on infrastructure as well as giving people a tax break. It's pretty clear you're arguing off of nothing, but blind ideological belief.

[QUOTE="Niner_Empire"][QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"] haha no.....we dont. we borrow and dont return. we are screwed. its called deficit spending.allnamestaken

Also, the video is meant to explain Keynesian economics. I know most people arent interested in reading especially since it hurts your eyes when doing so on the computer.

[QUOTE="Niner_Empire"][QUOTE="allnamestaken"] "its pretty sad that the same people who complained about bush spending elected this guy" Sorry, I got you confused with Brutalizer. Still, no offence, but you don't know what you're talking about.allnamestaken

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I forgot to point out that if one believes that this stimulus package would work, then obviously a tax relief would as well. Giving people back their money is... well giving back their money. Its just a matter of finding the right way to do it.