@tehramz Thats not even the point. Paying for something that should be free makes no sense. Just because you are okay with it doesnt make it okay. You had it for 6 years, do the math. Thats 240 bucks you could have had in your pocket. Then for 50 bucks I can get free games every month with PS plus? Or use that 40 bucks to grab all the steam sales on my PC. But when people buy there kids a system(xbox tries there best to dip into that market) that child can not play there system the way they want to right out of the box. Of course they wont play online multiplayer but some portions of games are locked off if you dont have live, or they can not watch netflix. So instead of paying that 7 bucks for netflix which would be like 84 a year it is instead 124 by your terms a year. You have people who dont even use the xbox for online multiplayer they just want to play there single player games, watch netflix and espn and maybe even chat with a friend every once and awhile. Those simple feat becomes a hassle due to xbox live.