[QUOTE="Dave_NBF"][QUOTE="Vastet"][QUOTE="Dave_NBF"][QUOTE="Vastet"][QUOTE="Dave_NBF"]

If you are a console fan you cannot say "well it is EASIER to just point and click."  Yes I agree in theory it is easier because you have your whole hand to move the mouse vs just a thumb.  HOWEVER, when EVERYONE is using the same set-up, it solely relies on accuracy and reflexes.  You need talent to be able to judge your hand movements, mouse control, aim sights, etc. It all depends on relexes because you have much less time to react to an enemy or object than in a controller game...even with auto assist;)

Controller users have a harder time adjusting to the controls, but once that is mastered, it really just relies on knowing the maps and player behavior because there is not MUCH skill in using a controller.  Auto assist, slow reaction times, etc are just not good for FPS.  A 10 sensitivity is slower than a 1 sensitivity in CS:S.  Most people cant play snipers with a 10 sensitivity in halo2 because you lose too much control. 

It is no comparison. More skill is needed when playing FPS with keyboard in mouse for the previously stated reasons. Its reflex based on top of all the other things (map knowledge, player strats/behavior patterns, etc). 

Vastet

actually, I hate to break it to YOU, but refute ONE thing in my post.  You can't. Debated ended, you lose,  like usual.

actaully you just owned yourself harder because I wasnt talking to you but answering your post.  I was referring to anyone to refute my post.  Not you in particular. I did not know if you agreed or did not.  I was merely saying it should end because there is nothing to refute, hence, end the debate.

wow just wow. That made no sense, and you obviously have no idea what the hell you are talking about. Keep being like Mcdonalds and just "lovin it" then. 

[QUOTE="hondacrx898"]

KnM = higher degree of difficulty = NOT EASIER

game over

343Guilty-spark

easier to get started? LMAO. Yes please pick up a copy of CS or any fps online game and just go "get started." Not only will you get slaughtered, you will just quit.  The talent in fps PC  is much deeper.  There are over 3 times as many halo2 palyers than CS players (325k unique users a day vs around 175k in CS).  However CS logs in over tripple the minutes played each month.  That is not including all the other FPS's out there.  CPL, CAL, CEVO.  Its hard to find a server that does not have at least one CAL guy playing.  Consoles take about 3 hours to master.  Thats it.  Then it becomes knowing the maps and that is IT.  Gun control, map control.  PC needs much more.

[QUOTE="Dave_NBF"][QUOTE="Vastet"][QUOTE="Dave_NBF"]

If you are a console fan you cannot say "well it is EASIER to just point and click."  Yes I agree in theory it is easier because you have your whole hand to move the mouse vs just a thumb.  HOWEVER, when EVERYONE is using the same set-up, it solely relies on accuracy and reflexes.  You need talent to be able to judge your hand movements, mouse control, aim sights, etc. It all depends on relexes because you have much less time to react to an enemy or object than in a controller game...even with auto assist;)

Controller users have a harder time adjusting to the controls, but once that is mastered, it really just relies on knowing the maps and player behavior because there is not MUCH skill in using a controller.  Auto assist, slow reaction times, etc are just not good for FPS.  A 10 sensitivity is slower than a 1 sensitivity in CS:S.  Most people cant play snipers with a 10 sensitivity in halo2 because you lose too much control. 

It is no comparison. More skill is needed when playing FPS with keyboard in mouse for the previously stated reasons. Its reflex based on top of all the other things (map knowledge, player strats/behavior patterns, etc). 

Vastet

actually, I hate to break it to YOU, but refute ONE thing in my post.  You can't. Debated ended, you lose,  like usual.

actaully you just owned yourself harder because I wasnt talking to you but answering your post.  I was referring to anyone to refute my post.  Not you in particular. I did not know if you agreed or did not.  I was merely saying it should end because there is nothing to refute, hence, end the debate.

[QUOTE="Dave_NBF"]

If you are a console fan you cannot say "well it is EASIER to just point and click."  Yes I agree in theory it is easier because you have your whole hand to move the mouse vs just a thumb.  HOWEVER, when EVERYONE is using the same set-up, it solely relies on accuracy and reflexes.  You need talent to be able to judge your hand movements, mouse control, aim sights, etc. It all depends on relexes because you have much less time to react to an enemy or object than in a controller game...even with auto assist;)

Controller users have a harder time adjusting to the controls, but once that is mastered, it really just relies on knowing the maps and player behavior because there is not MUCH skill in using a controller.  Auto assist, slow reaction times, etc are just not good for FPS.  A 10 sensitivity is slower than a 1 sensitivity in CS:S.  Most people cant play snipers with a 10 sensitivity in halo2 because you lose too much control. 

It is no comparison. More skill is needed when playing FPS with keyboard in mouse for the previously stated reasons. Its reflex based on top of all the other things (map knowledge, player strats/behavior patterns, etc). 

Vastet

actually, I hate to break it to YOU, but refute ONE thing in my post.  You can't. Debated ended, you lose,  like usual.

[QUOTE="Dave_NBF"][QUOTE="hondacrx898"]

KnM = higher degree of difficulty = NOT EASIER

game over

hondacrx898

maybe you missed my entire point? I was not saying it is easier. I stated WHY it is more  difficult.  I said it is EASIER in theory?  Maybe you didnt read my post?

but i narrowed down your paragraph into 1 statement

you can't do that with console fanboys. They will just go to: "teh easy point and click" so I need to say things like 5 times for the point to be made;)

KnM = higher degree of difficulty = NOT EASIER

game over

hondacrx898

maybe you missed my entire point? I was not saying it is easier. I stated WHY it is more  difficult.  I said it is EASIER in theory?  Maybe you didnt read my post?

If you are a console fan you cannot say "well it is EASIER to just point and click."  Yes I agree in theory it is easier because you have your whole hand to move the mouse vs just a thumb.  HOWEVER, when EVERYONE is using the same set-up, it solely relies on accuracy and reflexes.  You need talent to be able to judge your hand movements, mouse control, aim sights, etc. It all depends on relexes because you have much less time to react to an enemy or object than in a controller game...even with auto assist;)

Controller users have a harder time adjusting to the controls, but once that is mastered, it really just relies on knowing the maps and player behavior because there is not MUCH skill in using a controller.  Auto assist, slow reaction times, etc are just not good for FPS.  A 10 sensitivity is slower than a 1 sensitivity in CS:S.  Most people cant play snipers with a 10 sensitivity in halo2 because you lose too much control. 

It is no comparison. More skill is needed when playing FPS with keyboard in mouse for the previously stated reasons. Its reflex based on top of all the other things (map knowledge, player strats/behavior patterns, etc).