There is leaked footage of the 360 version as well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF67XFXq_ys

Both look really good IMO and just as impressive to me as Killzone 3. As a PS3/360(no gaming PC) owner I want the best version but will probably go with the 360 version for the controller/LIVE. I simply have more FPS buddies to play with on LIVE. Unless the PS3 version ends up being the much better version I will go with the 360. From the leaked videos its hard to tell which will definitely look better but the game looks awesome, I am impressed for 5+ year old consoles.

Only cheaters I run onto on XBL is lag switchers on Black Ops. Other than that Halo 2 with modded xbox 1's was the last big issue with cheaters I remember, but that was cleared up with the Banhammer. I don't play a lot of adversarial multiplayer on my PS3 other than Killzone 3 recently. Most PS3 games like Uncharted 2 and Resistance 2 I really just play co op so I haven't ran into any cheaters on PSN, though even if they were I wouldn't know it unless someone pointed it out. I simply don't play enough Killzone to know whether it was an actual cheat or just a glitch or some lag or something.

You more than likely did something wrong. Make sure you beat every mission on Veteran.

It works for millions of people. It worked for me. And the things they "stripped" from Modern Warfare un-broke the multi player.

Just got map pack, haven't played any maps yet but 5 new maps for $3 a piece seems more reasonable than what IW was offering, plus the maps seem much more unique.

(Also the improvements to balancing and broken perks in BO make any of its maps better than MW2's maps IMO)

darth-pyschosis

Got the 250GB Slim when my 40GB Fat crapped out on me. Best Buy gave me my $400 back and that covered the 250GB and new warranty on it.

OMG what I wouldn't give for a RainbowSix3 type of game!! Bring back the lean, make all guns full auto so you have to feather the trigger to get single accurate shots and no spray and pray ala COD. Forget the unlockables and let me load 3 slots with frags if I wanna!! I don't need classes and liked setting my load out in the lobby where you used to be able to switch teams. Bring back team survival, the choice of dedicated servers and the competitiveness that has been missing from recent FPS.

RainbowSix3 ahh when a level of skill actually separated the good from bad and people actually communicated and worked as a team to win instead of being a kill whore and only worrying about kill streaks. That game was the last time I was serious about being competitive and doing clan matches, I could tell the type of gun my teammate's were using by the sound it made firing and reloading. I knew the different sounds of footsteps through out the map in my surround sound, the game had me completely sucked in.

[QUOTE="CBCstillmatic"]

lasseeb

messages take longer to send/receive, game invites take longer to send/receive.

Yeah thanks for handling this so maturely and getting so defensive over a console. I love my PS3 and if I had to choose only one console to keep I would choose it over my 360 but doesn't change the fact PSN is inferior to LIVE in every way. I don't make things up as I have better things to do in life than try to start arguments on an Internet board. I was simply sharing my opinion and in no way was trying to bash my PS3 just offering my comparison of it to LIVE since I do have both. For anyone that don't believe it my gamertags are LIVE- aKa DaSh1zn1t and PSN- aKa_DaSh1zn1t if you want to check(replace the 1 with i, website kept censoring the name).

I have both because my PS3 doubles as my Blu-ray player and I have many friends that only have a PS3 and many that only have a 360 and many that have both as well. My fiance's brother I play NHL 11 with and anytime he sends me a message he ends up calling me before I get it wondering why I don't answer him back. I have also been on the phone with him and he sends me a game invite and literally don't get it till 30 seconds later. Maybe it is his connection or something but I never experienced that on LIVE. But of course this can't be true and I must be lying cause it was the one thing you disagreed with from my post.

I don't see this being so far fetched to believe cause I am the only person I know of out of all my friends who cannot enter a clan tag on Black Ops. Tells me its denied do to prohibited text no matter what I enter. Not one of my friends believes me on that either because they have no issues. So just because you don't experience something doesn't mean that I don't either. So again thanks but I am not making anything up. Not sure what my grandmother nor superman has to do with anything at all either other than show your lack of maturity.

[QUOTE="CBCstillmatic"]

Yes absolutely!! If it were promised to be on the level of LIVE then YES...I have both and pay for LIVE and PSN Plus. I would trade the useless demos and minis for LIVE like features in a heartbeat. I don't play the free arcade games and find Qore useless so I regret paying for Plus as it is but would gladly continue to pay if it added LIVE like features instead.

And it's just not about the playing on line, which obviously you have to pay for on LIVE but its all the other features and functionality on LIVE that makes the fee worth it. Once I jump on PSN I immediately miss these features and IMO would gladly pay for them. PSN is free and that is fine and may be great for some people but I been spoiled by LIVE and its seamless integration into the system and not each game individually and I don't mind paying.

Hey you could also get cable over the air for free but if you want more than 13 channels you will have to pay and LIVE can be had for $40 a year better than $40 a month like everyone makes it out to be.

ianuilliam

Listen I am not alone in thinking this. All of my friends that also have both systems hate playing on line on PSN. They all also think LIVE is on another level than PSN. PSN is barely where LIVE was on the original XBOX but hey if your ok with that cause it is free then all the power to you. The TC asked a question and I answered, I have both and decided to share my opinion on both. I personally like how it feels like Microsoft built the 360 and the dashboard all around LIVE. PSN feels like an after thought on the PS3. The only reason PSN can compare to LIVE is because it is free, they know they can't offer the junk set up they have now and ask you to pay for it. It goes for everything, messages take longer to send/receive, game invites take longer to send/receive. Everything I download on PSN takes longer to download then I have to wait for it to install. I can download a demo on both systems, have it finish and play it on the 360 before its even done installing on the PS3. Its the things like this other than the cross game chat and other features people bring up that make LIVE worth it to me.

So the question was would I pay if it added features and were more polished and yes I would, I can't complain about PSN since it is free, and I am not trying to complain, but compared to LIVE it isn't on the same level. That is exactly what LIVE is to me compared to PSN, more features and more polished. LIVE is better integrated into the dashboard and I like that.

Everyone is going to feel different on the subject but I can only speak how I feel and all I know is that when I play a game on LIVE then jump over to PSN, PSN feels very lacking in all departments. I personally don't mind paying for what LIVE offers and even after having both I still feel LIVE is worth the fee and would gladly pay the same for PSN if they brought it up to LIVE's level, IMO of course

Yes absolutely!! If it were promised to be on the level of LIVE then YES...I have both and pay for LIVE and PSN Plus. I would trade the useless demos and minis for LIVE like features in a heartbeat. I don't play the free arcade games and find Qore useless so I regret paying for Plus as it is but would gladly continue to pay if it added LIVE like features instead.

And it's just not about the playing on line, which obviously you have to pay for on LIVE but its all the other features and functionality on LIVE that makes the fee worth it. Once I jump on PSN I immediately miss these features and IMO would gladly pay for them. PSN is free and that is fine and may be great for some people but I been spoiled by LIVE and its seamless integration into the system and not each game individually and I don't mind paying.

Hey you could also get cable over the air for free but if you want more than 13 channels you will have to pay and LIVE can be had for $40 a year better than $40 a month like everyone makes it out to be.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

You forgot the point of the thread, MS is forcing him. I think he's one of the chosen few that has a guard from MS stationed at his house to make sure he pays. In fact, he is doing something heroic right now, while the guard is on break, he is on System Wars telling everyone how horrible XBL is.

He should be commended, not questioned.

freakshowfreak

if he wants to play online he doesn't have a choice does he so he has to ( forced ) to buy xbox live gold account..... or do you know a free alternative..

( forced also means no choice and in this case if he wants to play online he doesn't have a other choice then to pay )

but maybe we should make the question simpler

"Why do I have to pay to play games online ??"

because a lot of people in this thread don't understand the way the op intended the word forced in the question

so new updated question

"WHY DO WE HAVE TO PAY TO PLAY GAMES ONLINE WITH AN XBOX??"

Again for the 100th time in this thread no one has to pay to play on LIVE if they don't want to.The free alternative would be PS3, so you don't have to play online with an xbox, go get a PS3.Trade your 360 in, cut your losses and stop complaining. Play PSN for a week and LIVE won't seam so bad, all downloads take forever and then you have to install. Even features like background downloads, the dashboard, and messaging are half assed compared to LIVE. That isn't even including features that are missing that LIVE has. These things cost time and money to develop and improve. If LIVE were free it would have less support and be an entire generation behind like PSN is, which is barely better than LIVE was on the original xbox. The fee is the reason LIVE is so much better than Sony and Nintendo's offerings.