@Xirtahm: Excuse me? Isn't the online service itself the access to the games? That's the same as saying you pay for a movie ticket, so you get to watch the movie for free. Not a completely 1:1 comparison but it gets across the point.

But if you think i'm wrong can you please tell me what online service do we pay for then?

@fig56: That makes it a good price value, not "free".

On the other hand, you have steam sales every 6 months, give or take, where you can get the INDIES they give you with plus (because thats all they seem to give now that a plus sub is required for online) for probably less overall money.

@Elranzer: Oh my bad, nevermind. I didn't mean steam box. I meant the other steam thing that streams your games from your pc to your tv that costs like $50.

Run my games through my ps4? pffffffft who would do that am i right guys?

@sladey: you'd basically have a ps4 steam box

@heqteur: Eddie's not worth the effort. Like all his articles. And his mom.

@spectre3140: GTX 970, I5-4690 3.50GHz, 16Gb RAM