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#1 catanzariti
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...wouldnt the xbox 360 be gone by then and have anew console out? Im thinking seeing the first one is out they canstart number 2 and probably release it just as the time for the 360 finshed to get the last juice out of the 360 then make Mass Effect 3 on the next conole. Whats your thoughts?
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#2 Gregoroth
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I would have thought around 3 years for another installment. Who said it was 5 years?
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#3 PS360Fanboy
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Probaly in 3 year's. not 5
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#4 camian69
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they most likely have the other 2 games well up and running......i would not be surprised to see parts 2 and 3 in 2008 and 2009.

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#5 Fhiz
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3 years is too long for wanting to finish the trilogy on the 360 like biowear said.
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#6 SilentPinoy
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Why not establish Mass Effect as a franchise first then make a sequel on the next machine?
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#7 catanzariti
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OXM said it thats who! But yeah that was at the end of there review saying you'll have to wait 5 yearsfor the next installment but yeah it has just came out in australia they probably havnt started on it just yet! But its confirmed anyway and they might justmake this 2nd one on the 360 and the 3rd on the next gen after this like they did with the halo series, made the first2 on the xbox and the final on the 360........
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#8 camian69
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I've read...I think on Kotaku.com...... that bioware are getting 2 and 3 out this generation.....will try to find the link with a comment direct from bioware.

well....aiming for this gen......

http://www.kotaku.com.au/games/2007/09/mass_effect_trilogy_completed_.html

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#9 slicnick
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i hera somewhere that the ps3 and 360 will last for 8 to 10 yrs

cuz the next step in graphics would be photo realistic and the ps3 and 360 rnt too far behind that

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#10 Always-Honest
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on the next xbox would be more accurate i think.
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#11 magic_dragon
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Is it a trilogy?
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#12 Z-Bombz
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Is it a trilogy?magic_dragon
yup
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#13 slicnick
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why r we even talkin about the sequal when the 1st game isnt even out yet?
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#14 destinhpark
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why r we even talkin about the sequal when the 1st game isnt even out yet?slicnick

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#15 dooby95286
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[QUOTE="slicnick"]why r we even talkin about the sequal when the 1st game isnt even out yet?destinhpark

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#16 -Aus-
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Ever since the announcementabout 2,5 years ago Bioware said they were working on the Mass Effect trilogy. Not just the one game. They didn't just create Mass Effect right now and going on to number 2 next. No, they are working on the trilogy as a whole. If you ask me they are probably well on their way with ideas for the second, have the code all ready and the story. They just need to create spaces and make all those ideas reality.

I'm no developer but I'm pretty sure Bioware could have the second game out in like late 2008 or early 2009 and it wouldn't be crappy but high quality. That's just what I think though.

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How fast? How much memory? We take educated guesses
James Morris
15 Nov 2007 17:13 GMT

It's almost two years to the day since Microsoft launched the Xbox 360. So you would expect its successor to be well on its way towards fruition. But Microsoft has dropped only a few subtle hints about what form it could take, and hasn't provided any details.

The most significant statement so far has been about timeframe. Supposedly, the next generation Xbox will arrive next decade, possibly 2011 or 2012.

Microsoft wants as long as possible to recoup the $1.26 billion it spent developing the Xbox 360.

With such a long wait ahead, we've taken it upon ourselves to jump in the Tech.co.uk time machine and dialled in 2011, to give you a sneak peek of what you should expect from the next Xbox. Some have already named the 360's successor as the 'Xbox 720'. But we shall be referring to it as the 'Xbox 2011', to commemorate its likely year of arrival.

Advertisement Putting the clocks back
To start off, let's take a look at how the Xbox 360 leapt ahead of its predecessor, and what that could mean for the Xbox 2011. The CPU clock speed quadrupled between the Xbox and Xbox 360, so that might imply that the 2011 CPU would be running at 12GHz.

But Intel is claiming its 32nm Sandy Bridge architecture will arrive at 4GHz in 2010, and clock speeds for the top desktop CPUs have remained steady at around 3GHz since the tail end of 2003. So we can't see a console processor hitting 12GHz, even in 2011. The core clock would well be a fairly minor leap forward - it could be running at just 5GHz.

Core blimey!
One thing the Xbox 2011 CPU will have, however, is processing cores - lots of them. The Xbox had one core, and the 360 has three. Looking at current trends, we predict there will be at least eight processing cores in the next version, possibly as many as 16 - and there could even be up to 32. After all, desktop PC chips with eight cores are due at the end of 2008 in the shape of Intel's Nehalem architecture.

Something similar is likely to happen to the graphics acceleration. It is rumoured that AMD/ATI's forthcoming R700 architecture will offer up to eight GPU cores for the highest-end products, and that's due in 2008. Intel's Larabee graphics project also aims to be many-cored.

On the other hand, the Xbox 360's graphics run at only twice the clockspeed of the original Xbox's. So we could be seeing consoles in 2011 with lots of little graphics cores, perhaps as many as 64. But each one might only be running at a speed of 2GHz or even less.

All of these cores could well be part of one single chip, too. Both Intel and AMD are planning to integrate graphics onto their CPUs around the beginning of 2009. By 2011 this idea could be well established. There's even some talk of Microsoft designing its own chips, although there are very few details of this.

RAMming it home
Where today's premium PCs are sporting 2GB of memory, with 512MB more lined up on the graphics card, the Xbox360 only has 512MB shared across both CPU and GPU. A console needs to be much more affordable for the mass market.

Since we expect the console's operating system to be a 64-bit environment, memory in excess of 4GB would be perfectly feasible. But we suspect the amount of RAM will remain well behind desktop PCs, for cost reasons - maybe just 8GB?

The Xbox 2011 will probably continue with a shared memory architecture, particularly if the processing chip incorporates both CPU and GPU cores. So it will use GDDR graphics memory instead of desktop PC's DDR. GDDR benefits from a much more frequent update cycle than DDR - it's already on its fifth generation, where DDR is only on its third.

Power to the virtual people
The Xbox 360 has 115.2 GFLOPS floating point performance, 100 times the original Xbox, and can process 500 million polygons a second - five times its predecessor. With its plethora of cores, the Xbox 2011 could have 100 times more GLOPS again - maybe 10 TFLOPs, not far off supercomputer status. Its multiple graphics cores will allow it to process and texture many millions of polygons a second.

So what will all this processing power actually be doing? Obviously, graphics will become still closer to cinematic photorealism ( Project Gotham Racing 8 will be indistinguishable from TV race coverage; Call of Duty 8 will be shocking). But multiple cores will enable lots of other cool new capabilities too.

There is already talk of a camera with the ability to sense motion, and maybe voice activation. So you will be able to control your game character using gestures, and converse with NPCs using your own voice, giving commands or engaging in realistic dialogue.

This is just the start. Hardware physics processing is already finding its way onto the PC, either using a dedicated chip or borrowed GPU power. This will play a big part in future console games.

But the extra CPUs could also be called upon for more complex AI tasks - something the Halo series has become famous for. So Xbox 2011 games are likely to offer much more realistic NPC behaviour. The next console generation will be both a very good virtual companion, and a much more dangerous enemy.

Disc jockeys
Something that could be very different in 2011 is the mode of game delivery. Online game purchasing (like Valve's Steam) is still in its infancy, and current next-gen consoles are sticking primarily with discs for games. PlayStation 3 uses Blu-ray, and you can get an HD DVD drive for the Xbox 360, so these options are likely to remain on their successors, if only for backwards compatibility.

But the chances are that the next consoles will be very much network-connected devices, something Microsoft has pioneered with Xbox LIVE.

So the Xbox 2011 will more than likely come with a big hard disk - or even gigabytes of Flash storage - and your games will download straight onto this. It'll destroy the second-hand trade-in market, of course. But maybe we'll all be selling our electronic license keys on eBay instead!

Our prediction for the next Xbox is...
So here's the bottom line for the Xbox in 2011, based on current trends and what we know is happening over the next few years. Check back here in 2011 to see if we were right!

CPU/GPU - Integrated chip with 16 x 5GHz processor cores, 32 x 2GHz graphics cores
Memory - 8GB GDDR8
Media - Dual-format HD-DVD/Blu-ray drive for backwards compatibility and movies
Storage - 4TB hard disk for online game (and movie) delivery
Built-in camera - for gesture-based control
Built-in microphone - for voice-recognised control

http://www.tech.co.uk/home-entertainment/gaming/games-consoles/features/after-xbox-360-microsofts-next-console?print=true&page=1

He said the production team from the Xbox 360 is working on the next Xbox 720 [our pet name], and their looking into what kind of CPUs will be available on the market in 2011-2012.

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2007/03/13/next-xbox-720-to-launch-in-2011-2012-according-to-microsoft.htm

Everything points to Holiday 2011.

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#18 Metalnoid
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The life of the current generation must end in 2009 or 2010, not more than that. Thats the normal lifetime of a console 4-5 years.
So, start saving in 2008 for the new hardware. Mass Effect will be on the next-generation for sure.
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#19 EnderSR388
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Whoa whoa, let's slow down here. I haven't even played the first on yet!!
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#20 GEARSofWAR360
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the first one hasnt even "officially" came out yet so why are we talking about the 2nd and 3nd one already...
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#21 Bigboi500
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I'm sure ME2 will be out by '09 at the latest and ME3 will be out by '11. Sequels are much easier to make than the first ones.
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#22 lt_04
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they most likely have the other 2 games well up and running......i would not be surprised to see parts 2 and 3 in 2008 and 2009.

camian69

I agree with u on that one
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#23 i-lick-monkeys
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360 will be here for bout 10 years
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#24 maoriboy8
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If the next Xbox comes out in 2011. that only gives us 1 year to play it, before 2012:cry:
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#25 _RA0_
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probably would be like 2 or 3 years for the next installment instead of 5
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#26 halo3-player
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no there having all 3 out before the new xbox
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#27 jmartinez1983
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Bioware mentioned that the Mass Effect trilogy would span the life of the 360, so that means it should be done by the time the 360 is done. But who knows with delays and all. But then again, they have the engine in place and probably have the story all set and ready to go. They could probably turn out sequels quicker than normal.
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#28 destinhpark
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If the next Xbox comes out in 2011. that only gives us 1 year to play it, before 2012:cry:maoriboy8

2012?

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#29 bazanger
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[QUOTE="maoriboy8"]If the next Xbox comes out in 2011. that only gives us 1 year to play it, before 2012:cry:destinhpark

2012?

kind of like that whole Y2K thing, the mayan calender says everyone will be dead in 2012, i believe.
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#30 DonkeyKong8765
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[QUOTE="destinhpark"]

[QUOTE="maoriboy8"]If the next Xbox comes out in 2011. that only gives us 1 year to play it, before 2012:cry:ctfvyrsgurbnorn

2012?

kind of like that whole Y2K thing, the mayan calender says everyone will be dead in 2012, i believe.

youre right

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#31 CmdrShepard
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Lmao..oh dear :( At least all the Mass Effect's will be out by then..
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#32 Jenova_Flare
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They have an overall story arc. They have a long list of characters already created. They have a galaxy, they have worlds, they have locations. They have a voice cast and they have an engine. Theyve already created weapons, armour and upgrades. They have a vehicle (or will they..?). They have enemies. They have EVERYTHING down already, so I can't see how it could take them longer than a year or two to add things and polish.
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#33 nazrulhaique
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U gys have to stop believing that mayan $hyt.And btw 2012 is a long time.I think the 2nd one will be out in 2008 or early 2009
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#34 blacktorn
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I would guess it would come out in 2 years,they already have the engine now for the game,they just have to fine tune it and create more 'stuff'.
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#35 ODST_Kennedy
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I think that for the 2nd & 3rd they let you use your character from the First. i got way to much good stuff for my character in Mass Effect
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#36 Darth_Tigris
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I'm pretty sure there will be no more than 2 years between titles, with some great DLC for the odd years.
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#37 shadow9669
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i cant wait to play MS2 becouse killing geth and reapers just never gets old and i do hope it come out in next 2 3 years becosue we know the thing not over by the the way it ended
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#38 Ghost_702
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Ditch Mass Effect and give us another Knights of the Old Republic.
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#39 Darkzero6x2
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i dont buy it. i say 2 years at best. i'll wait for official say from bioware.
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#40 Ket87
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[QUOTE="slicnick"]why r we even talkin about the sequal when the 1st game isnt even out yet?destinhpark

Welcome to Gamespot.

If its out in America its out. Call me ignorant but if its released somewhere its released can't help if you live in another region.

But back on subject everything I seen about the Mass Effect trilogy pointed to BioWare finishing it this gen ME2 in 2 years seems likely with 3 following suit. The sequels are just going to be built on the framework of 1 anyways. They didn't build the engine themselves they just used UE3 so thats already cutting dev time.

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#41 thecobraholder
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[QUOTE="destinhpark"]

[QUOTE="slicnick"]why r we even talkin about the sequal when the 1st game isnt even out yet?Ket87

Welcome to Gamespot.

If its out in America its out. Call me ignorant but if its released somewhere its released can't help if you live in another region.

But back on subject everything I seen about the Mass Effect trilogy pointed to BioWare finishing it this gen ME2 in 2 years seems likely with 3 following suit. The sequels are just going to be built on the framework of 1 anyways. They didn't build the engine themselves they just used UE3 so thats already cutting dev time.

look at the date of that post.. lol

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#42 APOLLOCJD
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they most likely have the other 2 games well up and running......i would not be surprised to see parts 2 and 3 in 2008 and 2009.

camian69

Your kidding right? No game studio has ever dished out 3 titiles to a series in 3 years? It's just not realistic.

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#43 Sly_Godfather
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LMAO this is my thread and my old gamespot proflile:P, why you guys bring the past back:P
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#44 iceberg082002
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OXM said it thats who! But yeah that was at the end of there review saying you'll have to wait 5 yearsfor the next installment but yeah it has just came out in australia they probably havnt started on it just yet! But its confirmed anyway and they might justmake this 2nd one on the 360 and the 3rd on the next gen after this like they did with the halo series, made the first2 on the xbox and the final on the 360........catanzariti

now thats what pissed me and a few people off how could u expect people to buy something new to finish a series thats how they make money

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#45 Darkzero6x2
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[QUOTE="camian69"]

they most likely have the other 2 games well up and running......i would not be surprised to see parts 2 and 3 in 2008 and 2009.

APOLLOCJD

Your kidding right? No game studio has ever dished out 3 titiles to a series in 3 years? It's just not realistic.

ubisoft did with prince of persia
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#46 GreenMan
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Unless they want to rebuild the second game from scratch, I don't see why it would take longer than 1-2 years to bring out a sequel. Barring a few upgrades to the current engine, they should already have everything they need except the content itself, a fair bit of which can be reused from the first one.
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#47 acidic_dude
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it will be more like 2-3 years from now, they got all their resources on full go for Mass Effect 2, and they have all the assets from the first game.
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#48 kitty  Moderator
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From where did you get the idea for 5 years? It usually takes about 2 - 3 years to make a game...

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#49 jrobinow
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I bet we see ME 2 in 2009, then ME 3 in 2011 for a new console. Think about it ME 3 would be a system seller for the next generation console.
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#50 shotputking
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everyone seems to forget that sequels don't take nearly as long as the originals... the hard part is done (the engines, etc.). once the first was done, they would have started on the second, giving them more than enough time to work the kinks out of the engine and create the new content for a second game by early 2009, with 3 coming late 2010.