Halo Reach Betrayal Boot System

The boot system is terrible. I was just on BTB snipers and someone walked in front of me (point blank) right as I fired at an enemy and he got killed.

Insta-booted. One betrayal and I get instantly booted.

I had this happen when I fired a tank at an enemy, granted, I probably should have waited because I had a teammate nearby and they got killed, but I got booted for that one betrayal.

It's rare I get betrayals because I shy away from explosives in team matches (for the TK reason), but it is ridiculous you get booted after one accidental TK.

Is the booting automatic or do the "victims" decide if to boot you? Either way the system needs tweaking. It needs to be 2 or 3 betrayals before getting booted, you know, like MANY PC games. This should be a standard in gaming by now, jeez.

/rant :(

I've been killed by teamates a few times in firefight and it straight away gives you the option to forgive or boot. I haven't booted anyone yet as I knew it was accidental but It seems a bit harsh to be able to boot someone after one team kill. There's a few things in online multiplayer where I'm like "who's the dickhead that came up with this idea?"

i got bored in a game, so i killed my teammate. insta-booted 8)

Team mates kill me plenty and i never boot them because its always clearly an accident but as soon as i kill someone once they boot me instantly.This happened twice in a row recently and then it put me on a 15 minute matchmaking probation saying i quit too many games...hopefully this gets tweaked so its after like 2 kills.

The boot system is terrible. I was just on BTB snipers and someone walked in front of me (point blank) right as I fired at an enemy and he got killed.

Insta-booted.

cametall

I thought there was an option to boot or forgive...?

I thought there was an option to boot or forgive...?

Zophar87

I'll never boot unless it happens a bunch of times, like 3 or so by the same person. Then it's kinda like okay this guy/girl is doing it on purpose. I agree allowing it on one single kill is unfair.

I thought there was an option to boot or forgive...?

Zophar87

Yeah it's kinda wrong that it gives the option after one betrayal, they should increase it to two or three imo, because like you said, alot of the time it's accidental.

I encountered this issue a few times. I never choose the option to boot someone unless I am 100% sure that it was intentional. I just hate it when it happens in the middle of a big battle and then I am kicked which puts out team at a major disadvantage. It needs to be 2 or 3 betrayals before the option to kick is granted.

The boot system is terrible. I was just on BTB snipers and someone walked in front of me (point blank) right as I fired at an enemy and he got killed.

Insta-booted. One betrayal and I get instantly booted.

I had this happen when I fired a tank at an enemy, granted, I probably should have waited because I had a teammate nearby and they got killed, but I got booted for that one betrayal.

It's rare I get betrayals because I shy away from explosives in team matches (for the TK reason), but it is ridiculous you get booted after one accidental TK.

Is the booting automatic or do the "victims" decide if to boot you? Either way the system needs tweaking. It needs to be 2 or 3 betrayals before getting booted, you know, like MANY PC games. This should be a standard in gaming by now, jeez.

/rant :(

cametall

Happens to me sometimes as well. You get idiots in the game that walk in front of people that have guns... I hope those people really dont go hunting in real life or dick cheney would have a field day. Another good one is when you throw a grenade with no one around and after you throw it someone runs in and blows themself up. The game counts it as betrayal i count it as idiot team mates.

The way I see it they just screw themselves over because then it is 4vs3. The booting isn't automatic they have to choose to boot you most the time i dont get a betrayal but i play quite a bit so it is bound to happen. If I hear it say i betrayed someone i instantly say sorry total accident most the time people are cool with it but sometimes you get the rejects...

1500 POSTS WOOOOOOT!

I forgive about 99% of the time, unless I know it's intentional. Remember, you're playing with a bunch of whiny kids.

It's funny cause the one time I was booted it was clearly an accident (tank shot). I've forgiven at least 5 or 6 times though. It would have to be habitual for a boot.

I agree. My teammate spawned in front of my as soon as I went to shoot and I killed him, then he betrayed me.

It's not really the systems' fault, it's the terrible fkn community. I love Halo, don't get me wrong, but I hate this community more than anything. It's the worst community by far.

It's not that hard to tell if someone betrayed you by accident, what's the point of booting him? Nothing is gained or lost for both sides. The guy getting booting doesn't lose his credits and the guy who did the booting doesn't gain anything. If anything, he's just going to die more due to being down a man thus lowering his perfomance credits at the end of the game.

ive been team killed a couple of times, afew on purpose but i always forgive, its just a game after all. i must just have a team killable face :P

I forgive about 99% of the time, unless I know it's intentional. Remember, you're playing with a bunch of whiny kids.

Zophar87

It does seem a bit strict doesnt it but after halo 3 where so many times ive entered a team match only to find idiot kids on my own team shooting at me I can understand exactly why it is now so strict. The problem is that some people dont think about what may have happened and certainly dont turn on their mics and ask...

for example I was in a close quarters gun fight with a player, one from my team spotted the other teams member from the other side of the map and promptly aimmed his scorpions main gun at him not noticing that I was fighting him practically point blank because I was obscured by the wall next to me. I just happen to walk out from behind it as he fires and BOOM the shell scores a direct hit on me...I got the option to kick...i asked what he was playing at...he explained...problem sorted

More people need to ask and stop just kicking players

I was playing Reach with my friend on Live today, and he was telling me how the same thing happened to him. I also think it should be after 3-4 times. I wouldn't boot someone if i knew it was a mistake, but there are always some idiots out there ruining the experience for others.

I've been killed by teamates a few times in firefight and it straight away gives you the option to forgive or boot. I haven't booted anyone yet as I knew it was accidental but It seems a bit harsh to be able to boot someone after one team kill. There's a few things in online multiplayer where I'm like "who's the dickhead that came up with this idea?"

Snavles

It should definitely be after 2 or more kills by the same person, not after one kill. And more than often the person who killed you or who you killed is cool about it... just say sorry. No need to boot. Halo Matchmaking is slow enough... I don't need to re-matchmake.. that'd piss me off something rotten!

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I've been killed by teamates a few times in firefight and it straight away gives you the option to forgive or boot. I haven't booted anyone yet as I knew it was accidental but It seems a bit harsh to be able to boot someone after one team kill. There's a few things in online multiplayer where I'm like "who's the dickhead that came up with this idea?"

charleswbrown

It should definitely be after 2 or more kills by the same person, not after one kill. And more than often the person who killed you or who you killed is cool about it... just say sorry. No need to boot. Halo Matchmaking is slow enough... I don't need to re-matchmake.. that'd piss me off something rotten!

yeah id say the optimal number for booting is 2. Because its often a mistake but there's always those sick puppies that do it on purpose and if you give them 3 or 4 that's enough to hand the other team the victory.

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[QUOTE="Snavles"]

I've been killed by teamates a few times in firefight and it straight away gives you the option to forgive or boot. I haven't booted anyone yet as I knew it was accidental but It seems a bit harsh to be able to boot someone after one team kill. There's a few things in online multiplayer where I'm like "who's the dickhead that came up with this idea?"

Gen007

It should definitely be after 2 or more kills by the same person, not after one kill. And more than often the person who killed you or who you killed is cool about it... just say sorry. No need to boot. Halo Matchmaking is slow enough... I don't need to re-matchmake.. that'd piss me off something rotten!

yeah id say the optimal number for booting is 2. Because its often a mistake but there's always those sick puppies that do it on purpose and if you give them 3 or 4 that's enough to hand the other team the victory.

it needs to be a 2-strike or 3-strike system for the boot option to come up.

1-strike is bogus, you're not doing any damage to your team, but there's that kid who just kicks you for the laugh.

I've not been kicked myself and I've always forgiven people when I've been given the choice becasuse they've all been accidents. I agree the system needs tweaking though to make it 2 or 3 TKs before being kicked. I was playing Team Slayer the other day, we were winning and then one guy punished another guy on my team for an accidental team kill, we went down to 3 players and then lost the match.

I think there are a lot of occasions where the person reacts to being killedand boots you before they realize what they did. The boot screen pops up so fast. In the BETA it counts towards your quit meter because I ended up getting suspended. It needs to be fixed like Halo 3

I have still yet to run into someone who is betraying people intentionally, thus I haven't kicked anyone. I especially hate when I throw a grenade and then someone with sprint just runs right over it, and then kicks me. Fix this now Bungie.

I have still yet to run into someone who is betraying people intentionally, thus I haven't kicked anyone. I especially hate when I throw a grenade and then someone with sprint just runs right over it, and then kicks me. Fix this now Bungie.

ImprovedMind

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I have still yet to run into someone who is betraying people intentionally, thus I haven't kicked anyone. I especially hate when I throw a grenade and then someone with sprint just runs right over it, and then kicks me. Fix this now Bungie.

Zemus

it is nice to have the option, but the one time i wanted to boot someone the option never came up haha.

We were playing stock pile, and as i was collecting flags, a teammate would camp there and remove them all, so before the timer went down, he would drop em all back in and he killed me during the process.... it was the only time ive been pissed ..... people caring for their score that much that they ruin the game for others.....

But news has it that Bungie is reviewing the Booting mechanic... as it really does depend , on the persons mood while theyre playing.

I wish there was a Team Kill Cam, so I could see what really happened before making a decision :P

I wish they had a system that could detect whether your betrayal was done on purpose or on accident.

I'm hoping they fix this with a future update. It's ridiculous that after one team kill you could get booted.... One time, the system should let it slide...if it happens a second time in a match, they should give the option for the player to boot or forgive.

I totally agree with this, The boot system is horrible! One accidental betrayal and some dick can just kick you out of the game, Now thats BS! Hopefully this will be solved by Bungie around October since everyone is saying they'll update/tweak the game on that month.

I had the same thing happen except with a rocket launcher. It was so stupid because the same guy betrayed me eariler in the game and I let it go, but when I did it, he booted me. And what's worse is that we only needed 2 more kills to win the game and he acts stupid and takes away another gun for the team.

What I want to know is if the credits earned in the match still go to your overall credits. I got one of the daily challenges and I dont know if they counted the points. It still says that i completed it, but i dont know if the challenge points or commendation points are added. Anyone know?

I was driving a scorpion, someteamate jumped on the tank and kept shooting me.I decided to ignore it and a few seconds laterI tried to shoot and enemy and apparently the teamate who was trying to kill me, was to close to the cannon and I ended up killing him and me. Got booted a second later. I screamed BUNGIIIIIEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

Well, so far this glitched up (if that is the correct word/statement) boot system is working in my favor, I was in a game and this guy was talking trash to everyone in the lobby before the game, I muted him and went on with myself. We got in the game and I went up and grabbed the sniper, the guy comes up and starts shooting at me to get the sniper and while i tried to run away I died and immediately a box popped up saying do I want to put up with this losers crap or get him the heck out of this game, obviously I booted him right out of the game lol.

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I thought there was an option to boot or forgive...?

cametall