Battlefield = Counter-Strike = Disappointment

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#1 Volcom
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The only I need to say is, the graphics and physics engines are not done well at all. Very choppy and very 90s! In the 360 age, DICE needs to develop this game a lot further. Basically, this game plays like Counter-Strike. In other words, not the Battlefield I am use to playing. Its kinda disappointing EA and DICE released this game as is.

Why couldn't this game look like COD? Is it something to do with the large maps? Are they going to develop this game further to be more up-to-date? Why was there no jets?

There are a few questions that come to mind while first playing this game. Like all traditional battlefield games, whats makes it separate from the rest of the FPS is the ability to have the warfare reality game play. In the age of communicating with teammates while online, EA and DICE missed the boat with this Battlefield. There is no commander option to communicate to its troops to motivate common strategic movement.

In conclusion, this game plays like Counter-Strike with vehicles to jump in & out of.
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#2 Shmiity
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Counter-Strike Source is awesome.

Battlefield: Bad Company is an infuriating, jumble of bad bullet physics.

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#3 KGB32
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uhh counter strike source is much better than this game..
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#4 mikel222222
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I LOVE counter strike! No dissing CS:S plz. But i do agree battlefield could've been much better, I just play COD4 or CS:S instead
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#5 ck02623
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This game is NOTHING like Counter-Strike. What is wrong with you?
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#6 Englando_IV
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It plays nothing like counterstrike...
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#7 Warhawk556
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First, the game looks good considering the maps are so large. Second, jets were taken out because they were too powerful. And third, I don't recall COD4 having ANY physics WHATSOEVER, an no commander option either, plus smaller maps and no vehicles, i think COD4 and CS would be the competing numbers here.
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#8 _RA0_
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Swat vs Army? it's like apple and pineapple
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#9 Danold
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You just want attention...
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#10 kozzy1234
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I hated Battlefield Bad COmpany for about a month, then i started to enjoy it, just takes a little getting use to.

Its very team based oriented, loving the game personally!

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#11 Djmaster214
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Thats funny last time i checked (just now) there were hundreds upon huindreds of servers for CS 1.6 not even source.

And maybe you have a sucky tv becuase battlefield looks awesome on mine.

Not such a great 1st post kid

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#12 shickadance33
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I didn't really care for BF-Bad Company at first, now its the only fps I play. I think it takes a while for the learning curb but eventually it grows on you, or not. Depends on what you like.
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#13 iam2green
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i only liked bf 2 for pc. that was great. i played the demo for bad company and i didn't realy like it. counter strike is an awsome game! ther r about 900+ servers last time i played it. (friday) and the game has been out for a long time. what i like to say is cod4= counter strike for consoles.
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#14 drumbreak1
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You just want attention...Danold

true that and + man css is amazing ive played that game for over a year now and its still my favorite game probably or atleast one of my favorite games, and i do agree pc battlefields were better, they shouldve come out with a pc version of this, with all the old battlefield interfaces and the upgrades like in 2142 those were cool

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#15 Matt-4542
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How the Hell do you get the Counter Strike vibe from Bad Company.
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#16 Volcom
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OK, OK... The CS vs. BFBC might be a bad analogy, my bad. And, I am not dishing CS what-so-ever. CS had its time and to be perfectly honest, CS influenced and revolutionized the multiplayer gameplay....just like BF1942 through the present. However, the feel of this newly released BF lost its vibe. Maybe because I am familiar with BF on the PC. Knowing how powerful the 360 is, I assumed the gameplay shouldn't be altered from the PC experience. Looks like I am wrong, because this game is just blah. Hence, my comparison to CS now and BFBC. Again, probably the wrong analogy, but, I am speaking my mind and I wanted to read some reactions to see if I am off track or not.

And I am just scratching my head in regards to the editors reviews and the player reviews, I just don't get the rating, knowing how there is no WOW factor. And yes, I do agree the game does grow on you and yes, I do agree COD4 has a different gameplay concept all together. But, I did pop in COD4 last night, and I do agree with the COD4 ratings. Furthermore, I heard the next release of COD will be similar in gameplay like BF. It will be interesting to see if COD can maintain the same WOW factor with a BF gameplay.

ust to make things clear, I am total BF nut and fan and I have every release on the PC. Maybe thats why I am kinda disappointed, I expected more from DICE.

On a side note, I do wish DICE re-release BF1942 on the 360. I bet they can improve on the PC version and they can learn from it as well.

In conclusion, I like to reiterate, this is just my opinion, but DICE/EA's experience with BF over the years should've made BFBC a better gaming experience with the 360. Jets more powerful? Large maps? hmmmmm...... They done it and worked out the kinks with the older releases, why is it an issue? Food for thought....

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#17 BLBLAKERS10
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This game is NOTHING like Counter-Strike. What is wrong with you?
ck02623
1+.. and CS is probably the biggest FPS of all time and bigger then any fps on the 360.. Ohh yeah and its longjevity.. Been around for years now..
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#18 iloverikku11
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Counter-Strike Source is awesome.

Battlefield: Bad Company is an infuriating, jumble of bad bullet physics.

Shmiity

wow, perfectly put.

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#19 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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yeah now that i look back it is a little disappointing
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#20 TIE_Elite_Pilot
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no no no no no. Counter Strike Source owns Bad Company (and all Battlefield games) in the face.
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#21 tutt3r
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i have to say bf:bc was a bit of a dissapointment. but that cant be helped DICE hasn't been making that great games. Their last good game was battlefield 2 IMO (i still play that game every so often) And to be honest CS never gets old for some reason... the simplicity carries a lot of teamwork, strategy, and skill.
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#22 CaptainCoxy
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I agree that in many respects BF:BC has taken a few steps backwards when compared to the other Battlefield games. Likewise it has taken a few steps forward in terms of destructible environments and a better (although still not great) single player story.

The same happened with GTA4, there are many things which I enjoyed in San Andreas such as Planes, Jet Packs, Casinos, etc that didn't make it into GTA4. Yet big improvements were made in other areas such as graphics and story quality.

I think companies purposely don't make a game as good as it can be so that they can include the added quality/features in future releases and make more money. If they made a game as good as it could be from the start, there would be no reason to purchase the next version. Imao.

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#23 striker_097
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i would say one of the best assets too it are uh the sound it's right on, but the aiming crap is annoying
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#24 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="Shmiity"]

Counter-Strike Source is awesome.

Battlefield: Bad Company is an infuriating, jumble of bad bullet physics.

iloverikku11

wow, perfectly put.

I second that.

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#25 Alex_09
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I agree that this game could have been better but it is far better looking and playing than call of duty 4.
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#26 pupu_07
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I see what you're saying you mean the arming the charges to blow up parts of the map but not really counter strike if you think about it, if you're that die hard of a bf fan you should no its place is on the pc, bad company is what i call a sell out beta for the pc version because when its on pc it will have all the toys massively humongous maps. So yea fair enough what you say dude it is a bit of a disapointment, but there is a very good game in there just not they one you were expecting.

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#27 wojopro
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CS 1.6 is where it is at! Still play that game.

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#28 andyrae11
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Battlefield: Bad Company is an infuriating, jumble of bad bullet physics.

Shmiity

I take it as you never shot a real gun before, right?

BF:BC has the most realistic "bullet physics" than any other 360 FPS out there.

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#29 tsikki
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If you people really like CS:S and COD4 soooo much, just stick to those, I don't like either one. BF:BC was kinda hard for me in the beginning but now I really love it. Sadly it is missing those items and gadgets which were a really nice add-on in BF:2142. Physics and graphics are both really nice, hopefully we see the conquest mode soon! :)
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#30 raylewisnfl52
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you have no idea what your talking about
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#31 Makari
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In conclusion, I like to reiterate, this is just my opinion, but DICE/EA's experience with BF over the years should've made BFBC a better gaming experience with the 360. Jets more powerful? Large maps? hmmmmm...... They done it and worked out the kinks with the older releases, why is it an issue? Food for thought...Volcom
You won't see them doing 1942 as a straight port onto the 360, EA and DICE both have already caught enough flak about rehashing to drop the idea. Moreover though, it's weird because COD4 MP is much, much closer to CS in the gunplay than BF is. Stuff like the jets have been nerfed in later Battlefield releases - BF2's were a massive mistake in being as overpowered as they were. The maps in this case are a nod to the 360/PS3 and the types of games they're best suited for in multiplayer. The game doesn't look like COD because the engine's a lot more complicated, though - COD4's engine is actually really basic and barebones, basically COD2's engine with some buffs here and there. It's also why it runs so well on the PC, it doesn't do a lot of newer graphical tricks so it'll run well.
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#32 IIJuggaNottII
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[QUOTE="Shmiity"]

Battlefield: Bad Company is an infuriating, jumble of bad bullet physics.

andyrae11

I take it as you never shot a real gun before, right?

BF:BC has the most realistic "bullet physics" than any other 360 FPS out there.

Agreed. BF:BC is one of the most realistic FPS's period.

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#33 Volcom
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Not such a great 1st post kid

Djmaster214

I like to argue your point. I think we have a healthy discussion and I hope, but I really doubt it, somebody can read this as constructive criticism, rather than, a direct negative poke.

The reason I mention this is because, I wrote a small review within the BFBC USER RATING on Gamespot. I didn't say anything different, and I rankned it a 6...........but, my message got deleted and I was warned via Gamespot email.

As a result, I have noticed quite a few reviews saying this game is a Masterpiece, Perfect, and etc. . .

Just very odd that I was censored.

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#34 Hatefish2
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No. If this game was like counter-strike, it might actually be playable.
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#35 IIJuggaNottII
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Its odd that your opinion would be censored. Ive read reviews that I though was off from what I thought. Thats opinion though. With that being said. Bad Company has a great deal of realism. Thats why I like it. I like COD4.. it was like crack to me. With Bad Company...its not perfect, but its close enuff for me. How can you knock the game over COD4...a game that uses stuff like health regeneration or kill cams? You can camp in BFBC..but COD4 is a campers DREAM. Not to complain about campers...but COD4 makes it easy for a guy to stay in a building and position himself to where its near impossible to kill them. Bad Company is a campers nightmare, you can be in the perfect position....and before you know it the wall is blown down. Big maps etc. COD4 is like having a fight in a phone booth. You cant breath without a guy being in your chest. You have to be a master to snipe because the maps are so small, and why snipe when you can snipe with the M16, G4, or M14? IDK....all opinion. Anyway....Bad Company is a nice game, with the additions of Conquest Mode, and all team chat....this game will be so close to perfect its gonna be scary.
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#36 Hatefish2
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[QUOTE="Shmiity"]

Battlefield: Bad Company is an infuriating, jumble of bad bullet physics.

andyrae11

I take it as you never shot a real gun before, right?

BF:BC has the most realistic "bullet physics" than any other 360 FPS out there.

Hmm, so hardcore you are... and I'm sure guns just phase off of people too right?

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#37 SouL-Tak3R
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Counter Strike is an awesome game. Source is good too.

But I see no relation between that and Battlefield BC

and Battlefield is an awesome game too.

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#38 EnderSR388
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Your comparing Battlefield to Counter-Strike!? :lol: They're nothing alike! COD4 is closer to CS then BF. Plus I think you're about a month late with you're BF:BC hate speech unfortunately, it's old news.
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#39 callen3
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BF:BC graphics are amazing. I don't know what you are looking at...

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#40 Volcom
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Your comparing Battlefield to Counter-Strike!? :lol: They're nothing alike! COD4 is closer to CS then BF. Plus I think you're about a month late with you're BF:BC hate speech unfortunately, it's old news.EnderSR388

READ MY REPLY....SCROLL DOWN.

I know its a long thread, but, you need to read before you write.

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#41 DeathHeart95
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This game (at least multiplayer) is very team oriented. Also, the destuctability allows for a very different kind of gameplay, since you can't hide behind walls.

It isn't the best game ever, but it's entertaining. And not like Counter Strike.

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#42 Govesticrash187
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[QUOTE="Shmiity"]

Battlefield: Bad Company is an infuriating, jumble of bad bullet physics.

andyrae11

True.

I take it as you never shot a real gun before, right?

BF:BC has the most realistic "bullet physics" than any other 360 FPS out there.

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#43 Dilan120
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I like Battlefield in both Singleplayer and Multiplayer and it isnt trying to be like Counterstrike so stop complaining just to get attention

Your arguement is stupid so give up, there are people that like the game

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#44 EnderSR388
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[QUOTE="EnderSR388"]Your comparing Battlefield to Counter-Strike!? :lol: They're nothing alike! COD4 is closer to CS then BF. Plus I think you're about a month late with you're BF:BC hate speech unfortunately, it's old news.Volcom

READ MY REPLY....SCROLL DOWN.

I know its a long thread, but, you need to read before you write.

Hmm, glad you corrected yourself, because that was a bad analogy. Soooooo. . . .think before you post? :?

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#45 chaoz-king
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CSS is a million times better than BF:BC. CSS plays nothing, NOTHING like BF:BC.
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#46 EnderSR388
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[QUOTE="Volcom"]

[QUOTE="EnderSR388"]Your comparing Battlefield to Counter-Strike!? :lol: They're nothing alike! COD4 is closer to CS then BF. Plus I think you're about a month late with you're BF:BC hate speech unfortunately, it's old news.EnderSR388

READ MY REPLY....SCROLL DOWN.

I know its a long thread, but, you need to read before you write.

Hmm, glad you corrected yourself, because that was a bad analogy. Soooooo. . . .think before you post? :?

CSS is a million times better than BF:BC. CSS plays nothing, NOTHING like BF:BC.chaoz-king

Hey chaoz, why don't you scroll down and read his next post! Jeez! :P That's what he chastised me about. :lol: It was a very, very bad comparison and he knows it now.

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#47 xfactor19990
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It plays nothing like counterstrike...Englando_IV

ya agreed TC you are crazy...

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#48 kozzy1234
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I happen to love Counterstike:Source and Battlfield BC both! They are alot of fun with friends imo.
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#49 EskimoJoe33
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Never played Counter-Srtike sure it is good though

but Battlefield is awesome and you probably just suck at it

its been laggy lately though and i don't know why

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#50 pupu_07
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Fan boys comparing them, They go hand in hand quite simply both master pieces. Bad company is getting some bs slack, bad company deserves a very solid 9, not because cod4 got a 9 i think cod4 deserves a 10, if bad company was bf3 with all the jets id give it a 10, so saying source is a million times better lmao is some what biased, no seriously it is.