Anyone else mad about Gears Tactics?

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#1 Posted by iambatman7986 (2763 posts) -

I didn't want to create this in System Wars because I don't want fanboys turning this into something different.

I am irritated that MS is giving PC exclusive games like Gears Tactics, but the X1 shares its games with PC. Gears is a Xbox franchise, but this entry will not be on the X1. I don't understand why MS is doing this to its core fanbase.

https://www.polygon.com/e3/2018/6/10/17429816/gears-tactics-pc-trailer-e3-2018

Do you think MS will put this on X1? Does this irritate you as an X1 supporter?

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#2 Posted by Black96Z (813 posts) -

Halo is a xbox franchise and they wont even bring Halo Spartan Strike to Xbox.

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#3 Posted by Ovirew (8856 posts) -

@Black96Z: that's a very good point. I remember I actually enjoyed that first one, spartan assault was it (?) when I first got my One. Surprised the second one was PC only.

@iambatman7986: Yeah, it's odd. I feel like they should just make a keyboard/mouse thing for the XBox, so you can play RTS games and the like on it.

I mean, imagine how great it'd be if Microsoft could announce Age of Empires 4 for XBox One. Only thing really preventing that is no way to do keyboard and mouse, right?

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#5 Posted by Verceties (322 posts) -

Tactics games like that are naturally just better played with mouse and keyboard. Yes they could find a way to have it on both console and PC but who knows maybe that comes later down the line.

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#6 Posted by Alucard_Prime (10087 posts) -

I'm a Gears fan and it doesn't bother me because of Gears 5, it looks amazing so far overall, and I did read this new tactics game is tailored with M/K in mind so that's why it is not coming to Xbox. It's not a game that interests me really, although I do enjoy the occasional RTS I have not even finished Halo Wars 2 which I consider to be great(for a console RTS anyways).

But anyways, some fans may be upset and it is understandable, maybe if they give enough feedback they might port it....but honestly I would prefer they focus on Gears 5 rather than porting a side PC game.

Not only that, but I am very satisfied with their work on Gears 4, they have updated the game so much and did their best to appease the community, it's a game I played a lot and I'm stoked for Gears 5. The way I see it they can do what they please with their property, side projects, toys, whatever..... some of the income they earn from side projects like that should overall be healthy for the franchise, it could help supplement the budget of the Xbox One entries....just as long as the main titles are well supported on Xbox, it's not a big deal for me but I respect people that don't like it, I understand....you should give The Coalition feedback.

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#7 Posted by SOedipus (11397 posts) -

No.

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#8 Posted by I_P_Daily (11420 posts) -

@iambatman7986 said:

I didn't want to create this in System Wars because I don't want fanboys turning this into something different.

I am irritated that MS is giving PC exclusive games like Gears Tactics, but the X1 shares its games with PC. Gears is a Xbox franchise, but this entry will not be on the X1. I don't understand why MS is doing this to its core fanbase.

https://www.polygon.com/e3/2018/6/10/17429816/gears-tactics-pc-trailer-e3-2018

Do you think MS will put this on X1? Does this irritate you as an X1 supporter?

Yes its irritating, I gave MS a LOT of shit when they announced Age of Empires 4 exclusive to PC. Now i'm not angry because these games are not on Xbox just angry because MS is using money that has most likely comes from loyal Xbox gamers such as myself to make games for ungrateful PC gamers who not only don't pay for Xbox Live gold, but don't even need an Xbox to play these games.

MS need to stop hedging its bets by making games for Xbox/PC and just focus on its loyal paying base.

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#9 Posted by I_P_Daily (11420 posts) -

@Alucard_Prime said:

I'm a Gears fan and it doesn't bother me because of Gears 5, it looks amazing so far overall, and I did read this new tactics game is tailored with M/K in mind so that's why it is not coming to Xbox. It's not a game that interests me really, although I do enjoy the occasional RTS I have not even finished Halo Wars 2 which I consider to be great(for a console RTS anyways).

But anyways, some fans may be upset and it is understandable, maybe if they give enough feedback they might port it....but honestly I would prefer they focus on Gears 5 rather than porting a side PC game.

Not only that, but I am very satisfied with their work on Gears 4, they have updated the game so much and did their best to appease the community, it's a game I played a lot and I'm stoked for Gears 5. The way I see it they can do what they please with their property, side projects, toys, whatever..... some of the income they earn from side projects like that should overall be healthy for the franchise, it could help supplement the budget of the Xbox One entries....just as long as the main titles are well supported on Xbox, it's not a big deal for me but I respect people that don't like it, I understand....you should give The Coalition feedback.

Its not about porting the game to XB1, its about taking Xbox games and also releasing them on PC, and using money to make PC ONLY GAMES, as a loyal paying Xbox customer why should I be happy/neutral that MS is using gaming funds to create games I as again a loyal customer can't play even if I wanted to.

Yes its their property, but without Xbox gamers the series would have never took off, and PC gamers also get Gears 5 too.

So PC gamers don't have to buy an Xbox to play MS game offerings, nor do they need to pay for live, and yet they get 2 exclusive games.

Now an Xbox owner who pays for the console & live gets rewarded with no exclusives.

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#10 Posted by Gamerno6666 (6678 posts) -

It will come to XB1 eventually I think. We might have an XCOM 2 situation here.

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#11 Posted by Alucard_Prime (10087 posts) -

@i_p_daily: I respectfully disagree, there is no indication to me they are using "Xbox gaming" funds to produce this little side game(that could have instead been used to make Gears 5 better), they also launched a comic book series for Gears recently and a clothing store....that does not mean they used gaming funds from Xbox to do that and reduced the budget of Gears 5 as a result. They likely get more funding from Microsoft for each project, so Gears 5 will turn out the same whether or not this little side PC game is produced.

You have to remember this franchise was "dumped" by Epic games years ago and one of the reasons were the astronomical costs to keep producing sequels for it. They need to do things differently this time around to keep the franchise more viable.

Gears 5 is a very high-profile game with a story driven campaign, numerous online co-operative and competitive features. They need every cent they can make and by releasing the game on PC and doing little side projects that brings in more revenue overall and to me this is good for the franchise as a whole and I don't want another exclusive Gears game from RTS or puzzle genre on Xbox unless it makes sense and it is going to do well there... I just want an amazing Gears of War 5 game on Xbox and I will judge them based on how well that game turns out.

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#13 Posted by BigBadBully (2150 posts) -

Doesnt bother me as it will likely come to xbox after pc version is completed later on down the road.

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#14 Posted by sakaiXx (5314 posts) -

Xcom can work on consoles. Gears can too.

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#15 Posted by I_P_Daily (11420 posts) -

@Alucard_Prime said:

@i_p_daily: I respectfully disagree, there is no indication to me they are using "Xbox gaming" funds to produce this little side game(that could have instead been used to make Gears 5 better), they also launched a comic book series for Gears recently and a clothing store....that does not mean they used gaming funds from Xbox to do that and reduced the budget of Gears 5 as a result. They likely get more funding from Microsoft for each project, so Gears 5 will turn out the same whether or not this little side PC game is produced.

You have to remember this franchise was "dumped" by Epic games years ago and one of the reasons were the astronomical costs to keep producing sequels for it. They need to do things differently this time around to keep the franchise more viable.

Gears 5 is a very high-profile game with a story driven campaign, numerous online co-operative and competitive features. They need every cent they can make and by releasing the game on PC and doing little side projects that brings in more revenue overall and to me this is good for the franchise as a whole and I don't want another exclusive Gears game from RTS or puzzle genre on Xbox unless it makes sense and it is going to do well there... I just want an amazing Gears of War 5 game on Xbox and I will judge them based on how well that game turns out.

I too have to respectfully disagree. Why do you keep calling it a little side game? Age of Empires 4 is not a little side game and neither is Gears Tactics, they have massive names behind them to be "little side games".

Also I believe the money is coming from MS gaming revenue, which comes from mainly Xbox customers.

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#16 Posted by iambatman7986 (2763 posts) -

The fact that Xbox shares all its MS games with PC, while PC gets exclusives from MS is my problem. I thought MS was about Play Anywhere. Or is it just play Xbox games anywhere?

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#17 Posted by I_P_Daily (11420 posts) -

@iambatman7986 said:

The fact that Xbox shares all its MS games with PC, while PC gets exclusives from MS is my problem. I thought MS was about Play Anywhere. Or is it justplay Xbox games anywhere?

Seems like it.

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#18 Posted by Fuhrer_D (853 posts) -

Xcom 2 was PC only as well.....

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#19 Posted by SUD123456 (5286 posts) -

@i_p_daily: I think you are irrational about it. Microsoft has a market cap of $758 Billion and liquid current assets of $130 Billion. It is kind of silly to think that gears 5/gears tactics or any other game is constrained by available money or that investment in Xbox vs pc is mutually exclusive. They clearly have the money to do whatever they want and it wouldn't mean a damn thing to the overall corporate financial position.

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#20 Posted by I_P_Daily (11420 posts) -

@SUD123456 said:

@i_p_daily: I think you are irrational about it. Microsoft has a market cap of $758 Billion and liquid current assets of $130 Billion. It is kind of silly to think that gears 5/gears tactics or any other game is constrained by available money or that investment in Xbox vs pc is mutually exclusive. They clearly have the money to do whatever they want and it wouldn't mean a damn thing to the overall corporate financial position.

Do you think Phil Spencer has a blank check to do what he pleases, a say bottomless pit of cash???

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#21 Posted by PCVirginRace (173 posts) -

Xbox is getting keyboard mouse soon. That should bring over tactics