TNA No Surrender PPV Discussion Thread - Sept. 9, 2007

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No Surrender preview

No Surrender preview

Matches

1) TNA World Heavyweight Championship

C.) Kurt Angle vs Abyss

2) TNA World Tag Team Championship

C.) Kurt Angle & Sting vs Team Pacman

3) X-Division Championship

C.) Kurt Angle vs "Black Machismo" Jay Lethal

4)Samoa Joe Vs. Christian Cage

5)Rhino Vs. James Storm

6) Robert Roode w/ Ms. Brooks vs Kaz

NO Disqualification

7) "Wildcat" Chris Harris Vs. Black Reign

10 Team Gauntlet For A Shot At The TNA Titles At Bound For Glory!

8) The Voodo Kin Mafia, The Latin America XChange, Team 3D, The Motor City Machine Guns, Triple X, AJ S*yles and Tomko, Sonjay Dutt and Petey Williams, Raven and Havok, Eric Young and Shark Boy, Lance Hoyt and the debut of Jimmy Rave

-Check out the preview and give your thoughts and predictions-

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#2 MattHughesV2
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i reckon angle will ose his x division and tag titles but will keep his heavyweight, and i'm backiung robert roode
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i reckon angle will ose his x division and tag titles but will keep his heavyweight, and i'm backiung robert roodeMattHughesV2

i'm sure Angle will lose the X-Division title, and i didnt understand the last thing u said

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#4 MattHughesV2
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i want robert roode to win against kaz, and i think he will keep the tna world title but lose the tag title
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i want robert roode to win against kaz, and i think he will keep the tna world title but lose the tag titleMattHughesV2

oh i didnt understand the Robert Roode part before, but now i do, and yeah i think Kaz isnt ready to beat someone like Robert Roode

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#6 MattHughesV2
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i suspect angle might forfeit one or both titles and focus on his match with abyss, it's possible
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this one is a close one, i like Abyss and i like Angle but i feel Anagle will keep the title and the tag titles but he'll lose the X division title, he shouldnt be holding it in the first place.

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#8 MattHughesV2
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or he could keep hold of all the title for another winner takes all match against joe or jj or sting or cage later on.
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#9 Despirano
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not a bad idea
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#10 StarSlayer97
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man i hope he loses them all
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or he could keep hold of all the title for another winner takes all match against joe or jj or sting or cage later on.MattHughesV2

definitely not Joe cause he doesnt plan on resigning with TNA

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#12 MattHughesV2
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but it hink cage shud be champ again
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but it hink cage shud be champ againMattHughesV2

hmmm, maybe?

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#14 MattHughesV2
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i think tna is so good coz it gives wwe intercontinental champs a shot at world title gold, u know wat i meen
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i think tna is so good coz it gives wwe intercontinental champs a shot at world title gold, u know wat i meenMattHughesV2

yeah, i guess, but they're not using Rhyno right anymore, i mean he's still feuding with James Storm, and if they were to have a match at No Surrender, what match do u think that would be?

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wow abyssgoing for the world heavyweight means a definite win for angle because i honestly dont think abyss could defeat angle, script or for real. and im going to actually be rooting for team pacman jones. also he might lose the x divison. im not sure on that one. because i do actually like angle and i started watching tna around the time he came on and was never a big machismo whatever fan(although hes insane.). oh and i want kaz to win and make love to mrs. brooks. hopefully theres a match with somoa joe knowing that his contract wil expire soon.
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[QUOTE="MattHughesV2"]i think tna is so good coz it gives wwe intercontinental champs a shot at world title gold, u know wat i meenkillerband55

yeah, i guess, but they're not using Rhyno right anymore, i mean he's still feuding with James Storm, and if they were to have a match at No Surrender, what match do u think that would be?

maybe a rivalry with jj or sting or pacman or maybe even lax, then he can get a partner

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Kurt Angle with every belt in the company?

Team Pacman going after the tag titles?

Angle once again not clearly a heel or face (that pissed some people off before it will do the same again)?

TNA just doesn't get it.

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#19 MattHughesV2
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well angle wont have all the titles after no surrender
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Actually I've heard TNA is planning Angle/Jarrett for BFG and all the titles. Nothing's set in stone I guess. This just a rumour but unfortunately something I could see TNA doing which just shows how far they've fallen.

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#21 MattHughesV2
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that wud be a good match
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#22 FlamesFan2
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that wud be a good matchMattHughesV2

Yes, the man who is the most hated wrestler in TNA's history vs. the guy almost everyone is getting sick of due to being on TV WAY too much, both of these men with far too much power and influence over their character, fighting for every title in the company. I can hear the booing now.

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#23 MattHughesV2
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jj is a better champ coz then he can be beat by a fan favourite e.g a.j styles, rhino, sting etc
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jj is a better champ coz then he can be beat by a fan favourite e.g a.j styles, rhino, sting etcMattHughesV2

Too bad he's a face and will be coming back as a face.

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#25 MattHughesV2
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i admit tna has some flaws, but u cannot say wwe is better quality
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i admit tna has some flaws, but u cannot say wwe is better qualityMattHughesV2

I can and I will. TNA has great talent but they're wasting it all with stupid angles and bad choices. The James Gang beat MCMG? WTF! WWE has great talent as well, it's just spread out over the three brands. If it was all one brand then we would have Cena, Mysterio, UT, HBK, HHH, Orton, Kennedy, Morrison, Punk, both Hardyz, Burke, Cor Von, Londrick, WGTT, MVP and more that I'm probably forgetting all one show. The only problem would be their would be no way to show all of them every week.

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yes tnas angles arent always smart, but most wwe superstars are all getting pushed too much, and they shouldnt have so much technical talnet and waste it showing off jackassed marines with a 5 move moves list and a retarded giant who squashes peoples heads, and hornswoggle, i cant even begin to say whats up widdat
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yes tnas angles arent always smart, but most wwe superstars are all getting pushed too much, and they shouldnt have so much technical talnet and waste it showing off jackassed marines with a 5 move moves list and a retarded giant who squashes peoples heads, and hornswoggle, i cant even begin to say whats up widdatMattHughesV2

Cena has had a fantastic year in the WWE. I can't really defend Khali other than saying that it could have been worse. They've done the best they could with his World Title reign but it still sucks. He should never have won the belt. I can't really defend the whole Hornswoggle thing other than that it's slightly amusing and that it will probably lead to Nobe winning the belt. Oh and
FU
STFU
5-Knuckle Shuffle
Proto-Bomb
That top rope leg drop to the back of the head (like a top rope Fameasser, I can't remember what it's called)
Fisherman's Suplex

THERE'S SIX MOVES THAT CENA DOES!!! THERE COUNT EM. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6!!!!

Alright I'm done.

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wow abyssgoing for the world heavyweight means a definite win for angle because i honestly dont think abyss could defeat angle, script or for real. and im going to actually be rooting for team pacman jones. also he might lose the x divison. im not sure on that one. because i do actually like angle and i started watching tna around the time he came on and was never a big machismo whatever fan(although hes insane.). oh and i want kaz to win and make love to mrs. brooks. hopefully theres a match with somoa joe knowing that his contract wil expire soon.friutpunch

(damn i cant believe how many posts this thread is getting), anyway, Kaz better kiss Ms. Brooks cause she's hot, hell i'd kiss her and makeout with her if i got the chance (as long as Torrie isnt watching)8)

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#30 MattHughesV2
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yeh tna is the next big thing
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yeh tna is the next big thingMattHughesV2

yeah, its just a couple of steps under WWE, but still great, as for No Surrender, seeing Kurt Angle wrestle 3 times in 1 night will suck

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#32 MattHughesV2
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well watching him wrestle will suck, but when he loses a title, that will rule.
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well watching him wrestle will suck, but when he loses a title, that will rule.MattHughesV2

when he loses the World title, that will be even better

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#34 MattHughesV2
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i hope so
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Prediction: The only title Angle has a chance of losing is the Tag Team Titles and the only reason I believe that is because TNA is making so many stupid decisions right now that they might just make Pacman Jones one half of the tag team champions when he can't wrestler. Meanwhile no way is Abyss winning the World Title (Judas Messiah or whatever probably interferes to cost him the match) and if you think Lethal is going to beat Angle well... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH

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#36 MattHughesV2
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well black maschimo wud be better x divison champ than angle, coz angle isnt really an x division wrestler, even thoguh there is no clear x division anymoire
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well black maschimo wud be better x divison champ than angle, coz angle isnt really an x division wrestler, even thoguh there is no clear x division anymoireMattHughesV2

You're right, the smart thing to do would be to have an X-Division wrestler as champ of the X-Division. Unfortunately the X_Division is slowly dieingwhich does not bode well for TNA.

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#38 MattHughesV2
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i wouldnt say dieing, i would just say that all the x divisioners are going after the world title leaving hardly anybody to compete for the x division, so there jsut sort of making it into an intercontinental title sort of thing
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#39 FlamesFan2
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You didn't say I did. Lethal and Dutt are the only guys who would be in the X-Division if they started it today. Maybe Daniels but he should be in the heavyweight division. Low Ki, Skipper, Shelley and Sabin are all in tag teams, Kazarian is in the Heavyweight Division it looks like, Petey's disappeared, Young is teaming with Shark Boy now which means he's probably gonna become a jobber. That about covers it. If the X-Division goes, TNA doesn't last very long after it goes.
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#40 MattHughesV2
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i say they rename the x division title summit like intercontinental or something like that, so thre are no group restrictions
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#41 FlamesFan2
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i say they rename the x division title summit like intercontinental or something like that, so thre are no group restrictionsMattHughesV2

That would suck. The X-Division is the one last thing that truly makes TNA the alternative to WWE. Without it, TNA becomes WWE jr.

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#42 MattHughesV2
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yeh but it would be better than about 2 people fighting for the title everytime
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i hope they fix the X-Division after this ppv, by that i mean take the title off Angle
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#44 MattHughesV2
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i hope so too
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Hopefully by thursday we should be having some new matches.
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#46 Despirano
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I actually missed Tna so i cant wait to watch Impact this thursday
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Hopefully by thursday we should be having some new matches.friutpunch

we better, cause No Surrender is this sunday

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#48 MattHughesV2
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i'm gonna watch it for sure but if 3 out of 4 matches have angle in iwill be rather peeved
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i'm gonna watch it for sure but if 3 out of 4 matches have angle in iwill be rather peevedMattHughesV2

well i wont be able to order it so let me know how it is

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#50 FlamesFan2
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I am refusing to support TNA in any way until they get their s*** together. Angle losing some titles would help and a rebuilding of the X-Division would help.