WWE Raw - January 11th, 2010 (Mike Tyson to Host)

Holy ****. Sheamus-Orton at RR?

Razor-Lazor

Wait, am I watching WWE or the Zoo?Redders1989

Eve looks good to me.

Katie, not so much.

Ooh, bonus, Maryse.

Hm, I can hardly remember that.

Well, thanks for finding it for me, man.

MVP: You can stand there and suck

Line of the night. :lol:

Wait, am I watching WWE or the Zoo?Redders1989

Holy ****. Sheamus-Orton at RR?Razor-Lazor

With that being said, when was the last time we even had a heel vs. heel PPV world title match?

Wow lot's of people are/could have been going. I could have gone too if I cared about WWE any more, I used to go to every show in MN.

[QUOTE="Razor-Lazor"]Holy ****. Sheamus-Orton at RR?Link256

With that being said, when was the last time we even had a heel vs. heel PPV world title match?

COLE Shut the **** up

evander holli swoggle

and vintage tyson.... cole is lame

Even Fast Eddie Vegas saw that coming

... props to the one person that will get that reference.

Even Fast Eddie Vegas saw that coming

... props to the one person that will get that reference.The_Dude14

Regardless, nice continuity.

All I can remember right now is HWMNBN vs. Angle, Royal Rumble 2003. Even then, HWMNBN was a tweener at best then.Redders1989

Cena matches don't count, I take it.

For PPV, the best I can come up with is Angle-Trips from the '01 Rumble. Solid match, but solid evidence against heel vs heel matches.

You could almost count RVD-Edge from Vengeance 06.

Last major heel-heel program for a belt would be Angle-JBL in 04-05, but that was never a one on one singles match on PPV.

Grasping at straws but Mr. Kennedy vs. Edge for Kennedy's MITB briefcase was essentially a title match..

EDIT: Gah, can't believe I didn't remember this earlier but DiBiase vs. Orton for the WWE title on Raw. 

Also, I was thinking, even if Cena is not thrown into Orton-Sheamus, I could see it leading to a Orton face turn, with Legacy turning on Orton.

Granted, I'm the same who said Cena would turn heel, so take what I say with a mine of salt.

EDIT: Gah, can't believe I didn't remember this earlier but DiBiase vs. Orton for the WWE title on Raw. Mu5uk0

With that being said, when was the last time we even had a heel vs. heel PPV world title match?Link256

Just checked, and HWMNBN was cIassified as a tweener for the '03 Rumble match. Every PPV World Title match since then has had at least one face, so this is the last time I'd call a heel vs. heel PPV match.

Alternatively, if you don't want to call the tweener role official, then the last World Title PPV heel vs. heel match was HHH/Angle at the Rumble 2001. Either way, it's either been 7 years or 9 years since the last one.

Grasping at straws but Mr. Kennedy vs. Edge for Kennedy's MITB briefcase was essentially a title match..

EDIT: Gah, can't believe I didn't remember this earlier but DiBiase vs. Orton for the WWE title on Raw. Mu5uk0

For PPV, the best I can come up with is Angle-Trips from the '01 Rumble. Solid match, but solid evidence against heel vs heel matches.The_Dude14

Not a bad Raw. I was second row on the camera side with a kid screaming behind me the whole time. Other than that it was good. Diva's matches live were about a 5/10 instead of a usual 2/10.Flamecommando

Biggest pop?

Biggest heat?

Dark matches that do NOT include Superstars?

Post-TV stuff? 

Etc...

Way too many Wrestlemania videos in-between.

Biggest pop?

-Hmm. Have to say when Cena hit the announce table, the stairs, and the stairs again. Not a good day for Cena.

Biggest heat?

-Probably when Vince said Bret will never be seen again.

Dark matches that do NOT include Superstars?

-Missed the two dark matches which were supposedly Superstars tapings.

Post-TV stuff?

-Cena VS Sheamus for WWE title. Sheamus got himself counted out and ran.

-Cena talks about the Vikings and there being some Cowboys fans in here...yadada....Sheamus returns and gets hit with a mic.

[QUOTE="Razor-Lazor"]What do you know, the "What?" chants. >_>The_Dude14

Speaking of which, Taker probably had the best response ever to that crap.

What was the response Link? I forgot. Maybe a Chokeslam?-CoMBaT-

This

Wow... LOL. Yeah... you won't hear that again on WWE anytime soon. I miss when the wrestlers did unscripted things to actually get into their gimmicks like that. It made such a difference. Jericho's one of the only people who still does those things at times.

Wow... LOL. Yeah... you won't hear that again on WWE anytime soon. I miss when the wrestlers did unscripted things to actually get into their gimmicks like that. It made such a difference. Jericho's one of the only people who still does those things at times.

-CoMBaT-

Others I can think of are Punk, Miz, Orton, Trips and Vince. 

Wow... LOL. Yeah... you won't hear that again on WWE anytime soon. I miss when the wrestlers did unscripted things to actually get into their gimmicks like that. It made such a difference. Jericho's one of the only people who still does those things at times.

-CoMBaT-

[QUOTE="-CoMBaT-"]

Wow... LOL. Yeah... you won't hear that again on WWE anytime soon. I miss when the wrestlers did unscripted things to actually get into their gimmicks like that. It made such a difference. Jericho's one of the only people who still does those things at times.

Razor-Lazor

What exactly is Jericho's record against DX? 3 wins to, about, a million losses. 0 wins to a whole lotta losses to Triple H.The_Dude14

Jericho is Triple H and Cena's doormat, sad but true.

RAW last night did a 3.7 rating off hours of 3.72 and 3.73.

Credit: PWInsider

[QUOTE="-CoMBaT-"]

Wow... LOL. Yeah... you won't hear that again on WWE anytime soon. I miss when the wrestlers did unscripted things to actually get into their gimmicks like that. It made such a difference. Jericho's one of the only people who still does those things at times.

Mu5uk0

Others I can think of are Punk, Miz, Orton, Trips and Vince. 

Triple H doesn't do unscripted things to get into his gimmick. He does unscripted things to ruin the gimmicks of others, and ruin kayfabe all together.

[QUOTE="Mu5uk0"][QUOTE="-CoMBaT-"]

Wow... LOL. Yeah... you won't hear that again on WWE anytime soon. I miss when the wrestlers did unscripted things to actually get into their gimmicks like that. It made such a difference. Jericho's one of the only people who still does those things at times.

-CoMBaT-

Others I can think of are Punk, Miz, Orton, Trips and Vince. 

Triple H doesn't do unscripted things to get into his gimmick. He does unscripted things to ruin the gimmicks of others, and ruin kayfabe all together.

Good point.

Unless his gimmick is being a douche. 

Raw was pretty awful last night. I had a good time tho.

The Superstars taping before the show was horrendous. 

Jillian/Chavo vs. Primo/Gail and Carlito vs. Masters. 

The dark match after the show was advertised to be DX vs. Jerishow which I'd like to have seen, but it was Sheamus calling out Cena and then Cena winning via countout like 3 minutes later. The little rat bastard kids go home happy, I cried into my collector's cup.

The Miz promo was probably the best thing on the show. Justin Roberts getting a chant by a whole section was awesome. 

I was hoping to see Danielson, woe is me. It also sucks that they don't bring Smackdown merch to the show cuz I wanted to buy a Punk shirt.

The only time I marked out was when I Evan Bourne came out and the tag whore gimmick was reborn.

[QUOTE="The_Dude14"][QUOTE="Razor-Lazor"]What do you know, the "What?" chants. >_>Link256

Speaking of which, Taker probably had the best response ever to that crap.

Disclaimer: Very NOT TV-PG.

[QUOTE="Link256"]Not to mention, those damn "What?" chants pretty much ruined Austin's promos.

Speaking of which, Taker probably had the best response ever to that crap.The_Dude14

Disclaimer: Very NOT TV-PG.

well, i didn't watch raw but i check out wwe.com, vince moaned about bret, saying "he'll never be here again", we are know it is a major storyline leading up to wm 26, because bret will kick his a**.

what did hogan do Kick his a** before he went to TNA this is years ago (wm xix)

what did hbk do kick his a**

what did stone cold do kick his a** a lot!

j.r. always say that a lot of people wants to see vince get his a** kick, and they did because of his character.