The RTS Machine ?

Is the 360 this year going to develop the stigma of now being the " Strategy " machine rather then the shooterzzz machine ? j/k sorta

All of these are first quarter releases for the 360.

Culdcept Saga:

Warhammer: Battle March

World in Conflict:

Command & Conquer, Kane's Wrath

Universe at War, Earth Assault

Then, as many of you know; Civilization Revolution, Supreme Commander, Tom Clancy's End War in second quarter and of course Halo Wars in 2008 !

So what do you think ?

360 loses the shooter title and now gets pigeon holed as the strategy machine. :lol:

Its going to be interesting to see how these RTS's turn out. I (a hardcore C&C fan) ended up buying C&C3 for the 360 (my computer at the time had trouble running C&C Generals) and was pleasently suprised by how well it controlled. It wasn't perfect and you couldn't really pull off any intricate strategies but it certainly got the job done, and Kane's Wrath's control scheme is supposed to be even better. There's also EndWar, which features one of the most amazing control schemes out there, is almost fully controllable with voice commands. While I question how the hell SupCom is going to be shoe-horned into the 360, RTS's are certainly no longer exclusively PC titles.

They would work best on Wii. They should bring some RTS to Wii.Weslii

[QUOTE="Weslii"]They would work best on Wii. They should bring some RTS to Wii.OGTiago

Why. Not even Warcraft 3 would work on that machine :lol:

RTSes being on a console is a joke. The most anyone can possibly say is that they allow you to experience the campaign, but anyone who says that the 360 at any time is a viable alternative to the PC for RTS gaming is just plain kidding themselves.mjarantilla

My first ever RTS that was played on a console, the Genesis; Herzog Swei -the spelling i dunno :) was a awesome experience but I hear ya.

They would work best on Wii. They should bring some RTS to Wii.Weslii

Indeed. I think a Wii RTS would work out well.

I hear many claiming the Wii should get many of these but I think the problem is that the devs. & pubs. don't believe the Wii "overall" fan base would make these good sellers on that system.

May have some tech. problems too because as we know, the Wii is not much of a powerhouse on the tech. side of things and that does not just mean... Graphics.

Culdcept isn't an RTS, though it does use strategy. :P

Man, I can't wait.

The RTS genre REQUIRES fast point and click controls. Even the Wii is deficient in that, but out of all consoles, it's in the best position to deliver. Well, unless they make an RTS that's KB/M compatible on the 360 or PS3.mjarantilla

if they make a system that gives kb/m an advantage it would sell badly.

Culdcept isn't an RTS, though it does use strategy. :P

Man, I can't wait.

Jandurin

They are all listed as strategy games but my title does say RTS so yeah... :P

PS - I needed to include that title because I knew you would enjoy it.

I hear many claiming the Wii should get many of these but I think the problem is that the devs. & pubs. don't believe the Wii "overall" fan base would make these good sellers on that system.

May have some tech. problems too because as we know, the Wii is not much of a powerhouse on the tech. side of things and that does not just mean... Graphics.

SecretPolice

it agree it's mostly the dev's and pubs that are the problem. they seem stuck in their ways.

as for tech problems. since the wii is only 480p it could do Warcraft3 type rts games with ease. heck rts players still play starcraft so we know graphics aren't the major concern for "hardcore" RTS players.

PS - I needed to include that title because I knew you would enjoy it.SecretPolice

15 days until it comes out. ...

The bad thing is, it comes out on my girlfriend's birthday. I really have to figure out where my priorities lay. :P

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]PS - I needed to include that title because I knew you would enjoy it.Jandurin

15 days until it comes out. ...

The bad thing is, it comes out on my girlfriend's birthday. I really have to figure out where my priorities lay. :P

if you buy the game on her b-day don't let her know. she could just see it as another 50 bucks you could have spent on her ;)

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

I hear many claiming the Wii should get many of these but I think the problem is that the devs. & pubs. don't believe the Wii "overall" fan base would make these good sellers on that system.

May have some tech. problems too because as we know, the Wii is not much of a powerhouse on the tech. side of things and that does not just mean... Graphics.

Ontain

it agree it's mostly the dev's and pubs that are the problem. they seem stuck in their ways.

as for tech problems. since the wii is only 480p it could do Warcraft3 type rts games with ease. heck rts players still play starcraft so we know graphics aren't the major concern for "hardcore" RTS players.

That is why I noted the tech. side and not just graphics because I don't know if it has to do with taxing A.I. and such.

The graphics on these are just icing on the cake and the strategy part is the meat of the game IMO.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]PS - I needed to include that title because I knew you would enjoy it.Ontain

15 days until it comes out. ...

The bad thing is, it comes out on my girlfriend's birthday. I really have to figure out where my priorities lay. :P

if you buy the game on her b-day don't let her know. she could just see it as another 50 bucks you could have spent on her ;)

[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]PS - I needed to include that title because I knew you would enjoy it.Jandurin

15 days until it comes out. ...

The bad thing is, it comes out on my girlfriend's birthday. I really have to figure out where my priorities lay. :P

if you buy the game on her b-day don't let her know. she could just see it as another 50 bucks you could have spent on her ;)

[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

I hear many claiming the Wii should get many of these but I think the problem is that the devs. & pubs. don't believe the Wii "overall" fan base would make these good sellers on that system.

May have some tech. problems too because as we know, the Wii is not much of a powerhouse on the tech. side of things and that does not just mean... Graphics.

SecretPolice

it agree it's mostly the dev's and pubs that are the problem. they seem stuck in their ways.

as for tech problems. since the wii is only 480p it could do Warcraft3 type rts games with ease. heck rts players still play starcraft so we know graphics aren't the major concern for "hardcore" RTS players.

That is why I noted the tech. side and not just graphics because I don't know if it has to do with taxing A.I. and such.

The graphics on these are just icing on the cake and the strategy part is the meat of the game IMO.

400 MHz Pentium II or equivalent, or a 400 MHz G3 processor or better.
128 megs RAM.

doesn't seem like it taxes the cpu much. the ram needed for a wii version could be lowered since there's no OS to worry about.

She knows how much the game means to me. She actually gave me permission to ignore her. But, I think that actually means that if I take her up on it, I will be... in trouble. lolJandurin

don't know about your gf. but for many chicks i know I would call that a test. they love stupid tests :P

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

I hear many claiming the Wii should get many of these but I think the problem is that the devs. & pubs. don't believe the Wii "overall" fan base would make these good sellers on that system.

May have some tech. problems too because as we know, the Wii is not much of a powerhouse on the tech. side of things and that does not just mean... Graphics.

Ontain

it agree it's mostly the dev's and pubs that are the problem. they seem stuck in their ways.

as for tech problems. since the wii is only 480p it could do Warcraft3 type rts games with ease. heck rts players still play starcraft so we know graphics aren't the major concern for "hardcore" RTS players.

That is why I noted the tech. side and not just graphics because I don't know if it has to do with taxing A.I. and such.

The graphics on these are just icing on the cake and the strategy part is the meat of the game IMO.

400 MHz Pentium II or equivalent, or a 400 MHz G3 processor or better.
128 megs RAM.

doesn't seem like it taxes the cpu much. the ram needed for a wii version could be lowered since there's no OS to worry about.

i personally wouldn't touch rts on console or shooters for that matternaval

[QUOTE="naval"]i personally wouldn't touch rts on console or shooters for that matterJandurin

hmm... it came out wrongly. what i meant was if i buy consoles i will ignore fps and rts from their lineup and see the remaining games for my choices.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="naval"]i personally wouldn't touch rts on console or shooters for that matternaval

hmm... it came out wrongly. what i meant was if i buy consoles i will ignore fps and rts from their lineup and see the remaining games for my choices.

RTS machine? No.

Kane's Wrath will be a decent title, but any if not all of those titles will be limited in some way or another (Kane's Wrath will have a unit limit count, as did the original CnC3, unlike the PC version), and this can lead to repetitive and often times boring strategy. (Spam 1 strong unit until maxed in command points).

The lack of drawing boxes (to select units) on 360 for CnC3 really bothered me, and EALA's lack of developer support didn't help either.

RTS machine? No.

Kane's Wrath will be a decent title, but any if not all of those titles will be limited in some way or another (Kane's Wrath will have a unit limit count, as did the original CnC3, unlike the PC version), and this can lead to repetitive and often times boring strategy.

Saturos3091

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]

RTS machine? No.

Kane's Wrath will be a decent title, but any if not all of those titles will be limited in some way or another (Kane's Wrath will have a unit limit count, as did the original CnC3, unlike the PC version), and this can lead to repetitive and often times boring strategy.

Jandurin

Ah, you mean the game you are referring to limits units by just an actual unit limit. Lame.

Yeah, I think it was WC3, but whatever it was, it had a limit based on each unit, not just on amount of units.

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]

RTS machine? No.

Kane's Wrath will be a decent title, but any if not all of those titles will be limited in some way or another (Kane's Wrath will have a unit limit count, as did the original CnC3, unlike the PC version), and this can lead to repetitive and often times boring strategy.

Jandurin

along with like 99% of all rts games.

Ah, you mean the game you are referring to limits units by just an actual unit limit. Lame.

Yeah, I think it was WC3, but whatever it was, it had a limit based on each unit, not just on amount of units.

Jandurin

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Saturos3091"]

RTS machine? No.

Kane's Wrath will be a decent title, but any if not all of those titles will be limited in some way or another (Kane's Wrath will have a unit limit count, as did the original CnC3, unlike the PC version), and this can lead to repetitive and often times boring strategy.

Ontain

along with like 99% of all rts games.

I hate unit limits. I'd much rather have unit upkeep costs, like in Supreme Commander. That's how it works in real life. You have to balance income with combat ability.