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#1 daxter223
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These is the way youll be ranked :

Post 5 of your works

You will get a rating with the rating scale for each of them

You will get a overall rank and your emblem :P

Ranks

Recruit : Begginer designer , still a lot of work but dont worry were here for that

Soldier : You went through the training and through the skill to prove to us that ur worthy enough to not be a recruit but ur not the best DO you have what it takes to beat this rank

Sergeant : Your a leader in design , you half mastered the sig making and went through the grueling process of proving that ur worthy for this rank

Lieutenant : Your designer skills earn you the skill to be able to teach others about design so basically u didnt master design ..but u do have the necesary skill to teach others to design

Corporal : Well the before last rating before ownage the corporal is a person who mastered BASIC ADVANCED techniques

Sub-General : You masted the basics , you went through the battle and proved to us you have what it takes to be OWNAGE but .....ur not done , but ur close ...are u smelling the ownage coming your way ..well you better !!!!

General : The master of the masters , youve proven to us that YOU are worthy of one of the 2 medals of honours (based on the program ur using) you went through the battles and through the fight and proved yourself .. now what ? get a cup of tea sit back and relax ... or ... continue proving your ownage

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 Emblems , here are the different emblems youll get as you rank up .. these emblems will be added to the hall of fame every time you earn one

mdl rank 2

Recruit - Overall Score: 1 - 3.4

mdl rank 3

 Soldier - Overall Score: 3.5 - 5.4

mdl rank 4

 Sergeant - Overall Score: 5.5 - 6.4

mdl rank 5

 Lieutenant - Overall Score: 6.5 - 7.4

mdl rank 6

 Corporal - Overall Score: 7.5 - 8.4

 

mdl rank 7

Sub-general - Overall Score: 8.5 - 9.4

 

mdl rank 6 ps

mdl rank 8 gimp

 General - Overall Score: 9.5 - 10

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#3 daxter223
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Ranking thread now open ...get to work ya maggots :P
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#4 SnowmanU360
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I'll be sure to post some once I finish Breaking's sig;)
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#5 Adurna0
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Shouldn't the order be recruit, soldier, corporal, sergeant, lieutenant, sub-general general?:lol: I play too much fps...
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#6 daxter223
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....just leave it how it is :P
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#7 SnowmanU360
Member since 2007 • 7715 Posts

Well, guess I'll start us oof.

tech

angel

Sasuke

 Squall

Stark

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#8 daxter223
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Well, guess I'll start us oof.

tech

angel

Sasuke

 Squall

Stark

SnowmanU360

1st

Flow 8/10

Text  6/10

Render quality  10/10

Work quality 10/10

Render placement 9/10

Lighting 6/10

Overall 8/10

Overused the pen tool , no light source , text is just sticked on , keep it up tough :P

2nd

Flow 10/10

Text  9/10

Render quality  10/10

Work quality 9/10

Render placement 10/10

Lighting 10/10

Overall 9/10

Render placement and quality is good . but the pen tooling again is gone overboard 

3rd

Flow 9/10

Text  4/10

Render quality  6/10

Work quality 7/10

Render placement 10/10

Lighting 5/10

Overall 7/10

On this one i had to be a lil harsh , so overall the sig looks advanced but a few minor details are setting it back , the render looks splaterred on and is not affected by the environnement of the background 

4th

Flow 10/10

Text  9/10

Render quality  10/10

Work quality 10/10

Render placement 10/10

Lighting 10/10

Overall 9/10

The only bad thing is the text try using a different font that works well with the character of the sig

5th

Flow 10/10

Text  10/10

Render quality 10/10

Work quality 10/10

Render placement 10/10

Lighting 10/10

Overall 10/10

Only problem was the clipping mask but that doesnt change the sig much 

OVERALL!!!and your emblem

overall you gotta work on the text and the lighting and not overuse the pen tool , the pen tool helps a lot but it can also take you down a notch so your rating is :P

  mdl rank 6

EDIT: Based otn the first post, SnowmanU360 has an Overall Score: 8.6, so his rank is Sub-General

Congrats Snowman! Your emblem:

 

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#9 Adurna0
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Here I go...

A couple of those sigs are kinda old but w/e...

 

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#10 loggens
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Wow..i really liked Snowman works..i thought he gets something higher..really must work on my pieces to get some decent rank:)
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#11 daxter223
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@Adurna : ill handle your rating later on tonight
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#12 JP_
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Here are 5 of my newest ones and yeah I am getting better





 

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#13 Grottekvarnen
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here are some of mine..not the best but whatever...couldn't find the others lol

 

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#14 daxter223
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allright im gonna rate em in a hour or two once im done with the hall of fame
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Juniorpower

Sig 1

Flow 4/10

Text N/A/10

Render quality 9/10

Work quality 7/10

Render placement 5/10

Lighting 4/10

Overall 5/10

Sig lacks a lot , a lighting source for starters because i see light on the render but no source 2nd there is nothing else but lines and a render and some poort smudging for a bg


Sig 2

Flow 9/10

Text 4/10

Render quality 10/10

Work quality 6/10

Render placement /10

Lighting 7/10

Overall 7/10

The sig might look good from afar but looking at it , its not great first of all the c4d is wayy to noticeable and the render isnt correctly placed to show a strong focal 2nd of all the lighting source isnt strong enough to light up the render and the text is simply awfully placed

Sig 3

Flow 9/10

Text 9/10

Render quality 10/10

Work quality 7/10

Render placement 10/10

Lighting 7/10

Overall 7/10

Overcontrasted , border is too large , empy spots and the you left a couple of c4ds just standing there doing nothing

Sig 4

Flow 5/10

Text N/A/10

Render quality 8/10

Work quality 4/10

Render placement N/A/10

Lighting 4/10

Overall 5/10

Looking closely at it it only looks like a stock ...a overcontrasted stock..you cant make sigs out of stocks it would be like id take a picture of a hot camaro , stick it in PS and use that as a stock ...

Sig 5

Flow 4/10

Text N/A/10

Render quality 5/10

Work quality 5/10

Render placement 6/10

Lighting 4/10

Overall 5/10

Over contrasted ,Render is overblended , a lot of unused space due to render placement

Your rank

Sergeant : Your a leader in design , you half mastered the sig making and went through the grueling process of proving that ur worthy for this rank

mdl rank 4

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Adurna0

1st

Flow 10/10

Text 7/10

Render quality (stock) 10/10

Work quality 9/10

Render placement STOCK 10/10

Lighting 9/10

Overall 9/10
Really nice sig altough 2 things bugged me , the vectors aruond the focal of the stock have lowered opacity which sorta makes the sig kinda bad and theres something white and weird on the right of the main focal

2nd

Flow 5/10

Text 9/10

Render quality 10 /10

Work quality 8/10

Render placement 10/10

Lighting 7/10

Overall 7/10

The flow is off , and the stmt text takes away some of its qualities but its a nice sig no matter what


3rd

Flow 0/10

Text 6/10

Render quality 0/10

Work quality 6/10

Render placement 0/10

Lighting 5/10

Overall 5/10

Srry i have to be harsh on this one but im still triyng to understand what it is theres no focal and no theme just fractals and some space stocks ?

4th

Flow 10/10

Text 9/10

Render quality 10/10

Work quality 9/10

Render placement /1010

Lighting 8/10

Overall 8/10

One problem with this one was no light source affecting the render still its a pretty decent sig


5th

Flow 5/10

Text 7/10

Render quality 7/10

Work quality 8/10

Render placement 10/10

Lighting 10/10

Overall 9/10

I love the use of colours on this one but its overcontrasted , light source was properly used , but the flow is all over the place



OVERALL!!!and your emblem

mdl rank 4

you are very close to moving on to the next rank

EDIT:Based on the first post, Adurna0 has an Overall Score: 7.6, so her rank is Corporal

Congrats Adurna0! Your emblem:

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Grottek

Sig 1

Flow 10/10

Text 10/10

Render quality 10/10

Work quality 10/10

Render placement 10/10

Lighting 10/10

Overall 10/10

Best sig ive seen in ages great job


Sig 2


Flow 10/10

Text 10/10

Render quality 10/10

Work quality 10/10

Render placement 10/10

Lighting 10/10

Overall 9/10

Another nice sig altough ur rating went down due to the fact that you left some space unused on the left no biggie tough

Sig 3

Flow N/A/10

Text 10/10

Render quality 10/10

Work quality 10/10

Render placement 10/10

Lighting 10/10

Overall 8/10

One of your best , personally i think its unique but as a designer i need to tell oyu whats wrong with it in order to give you something to work with so my only problem with this baby is that the outside of the video section is overcontrasted and overlit

Sig 4

Flow N/A/10

Text 10/10

Render quality 9/10

Work quality 10/10

Render placement 10/10

Lighting 8/10

Overall 9/10
Again its overlit but this time the rating went up because you didnt use as much stuff around the video :P


Sig 5

Flow 10/10

Text 8/10

Render quality 10/10

Work quality 9/10

Render placement 9/10

Lighting 10/10

Overall 8/10


Theres an empty spot , again the overcontrasting and the lighting but this time it took a toll on your sig , bevel and emboss doesnt make a sig beautifull...

Emblem

mdl rank 6

EDIT: Based on the first post, Grottekvarnen has an Overall Score: 8.8, so his rank is Sub-General

Congrats Grottek! Your emblem:

 

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#19 monkeyman04
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Here are five of my sigs. I would post other peices, but it seems you just to rate sigs(at least that's what I assume).

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#20 daxter223
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you can post other pieces too :)
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#21 daxter223
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ill do you rating later on tonight
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#22 Dudersaper
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Here are five of my sigs. I would post other peices, but it seems you just to rate sigs(at least that's what I assume).

MonkeyKinght98

1st: Kinda monotone, depth needs work. Nice blending.

2nd: I don't like how its simetrical but that may be just me, I like the depth, text is kinda weak though

3rd: monotone, left is empty, work on flow

4th: Kinda dark, lighting is off and has the "floating head effect", othan than that its nice.

5th: Well I never ranked this kind of piece, but its pretty good, only problem is the drop shadow ruins the depth, just fix the shadow of the brush that is not on the sig part and it'll look awesome, rest of it is neat.

I'll leave Dax for the overall ranking because I just forgot what ranks exist and I'm too lazy to go back and see.

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#23 Jas0n94
Member since 2008 • 3990 Posts

A question: except sigs, can we post banners?

(when I get an answer, I 'll delete this post, if it is a problem)

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#24 Grottekvarnen
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as far as i know anything is allowed...
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#25 Dudersaper
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Yes you can.

And don't delete the post, It'll end up glitching the thread when we go to the next pages

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#26 Jas0n94
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Oh... man. Here I go... :cry: :P These suppose to be my best works

 

 

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#27 BrunoBRS
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*gets ready to be owned*

BTW, i won't post my wallpapers... which, in my opinion, are better than some of the stuff i'm posting here.

i don't know if they're my best works, but they're my favorite ones.

 assassinscreed.png

darksiderssmall.jpg

crystalbearersheader.jpg

 vaatiheader.png

 princeofpersiasig.png

#3 i rendered myself (including the logo) and the background's not a stock image (someone already asked me that).

#4 was an attempt to make a sig with only 2 colors (other than the ones fom the render). i think it worked fine.

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#28 daxter223
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jason and bruno ill handle your ratings tomorow night
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#29 Jas0n94
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Relaaaaax.... Don't worry.... be happy...8)
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#30 Pedronus
Member since 2007 • 9524 Posts

Here's some of my work:

EDIT: (The one I did for SOTW)

 

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#31 BrunoBRS
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you sure like black & white :P
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#32 Pedronus
Member since 2007 • 9524 Posts
Yeah...guess so xD
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Jas0n94

1st

Flow 10/10

Text  8/10

Render quality  10/10

Work quality 6/10

Render placement 8/10

Lighting 10/10

Overall 8/10

 Pretty good work , i dont see any flaws but then i again im not the best critiquer in the world 

2nd

Flow 10/10

Text  10/10

Render quality  N/A/10

Work quality 10/10

Stock placement 10/10

Lighting N/A/10

Overall 8/10

Id be proud to have that as union banner 

3rd

Flow 7/10

Text  10/10

Render quality  10/10

Work quality 6/10

Render placement 8/10

Lighting 10/10

Overall 7 /10

Light affects the render well and its a good idea , problem is using brushes for a final result messes up your work keep in mind that when trying to make a sig to keep brushes to a minimum :)

4th

Flow 8/10

Text  9/10

Render quality  n/a/10

Work quality 8/10

Render placement n/a/10

Lighting 10/10

Overall 9/10

 Brushes messed it up besides that im not seeing any problem , you have a good way of showing the focal keep it up

5th

Flow 4/10

Text  7/10

Render quality 10/10

Work quality 4/10

Render placement 10/10

Lighting 6/10

Overall 5/10 

Not ur best work ..needs improvement .. bg is just a c4d  ,thers a bunch of unnecesary actions that messed it up 

OVERALL AND EMBLEM

What to work on

-Keep brushes to a minimun

-Explore different bg effects

-Try creating a certain flow 

Heres what you get :

 mdl rank 3

Youre not far from doing awesome sigs you just need an extra push to read more tuts , you may consult me on msn at anytime

EDIT: Based otn the first post, Jas0n94 has an Overall Score: 7.4, so his rank is Lieutenant

Congrats Jason! Your emblem:

 

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#34 BrunoBRS
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*waiting for my score*
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#35 Dudersaper
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I'm going to rank you Bruno, and Pedronus.

Just not now. 

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#36 blackwingzero
Member since 2009 • 1683 Posts

Here are my 5 best ones I've done to date.

banner

Car wreck

entry

Lady night

peace

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#37 BrunoBRS
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the third one is awesome :D:D
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#38 Pedronus
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I think the biggest problem is the text.
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#39 Dudersaper
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 assassinscreed.png

Centered focal is meh, smudging isn't bad but isn't that good either, needs more effects. Text is bad.

darksiderssmall.jpg

 Text is bad. Needs more FG effects around.

crystalbearersheader.jpg

Purple thing ruins it. So does the bottom text.

 vaatiheader.png

Effects don't fit the render sty|e

*PoP sig* I deleted it by accident and I'm too lazy to renew the post.

It needs more effects overall and text is really bad.

I'll leave the rest to dax.

BrunoBRS

Here's some of my work:

Too blurry, give it a sharpen.

Don't place text in corners.

Needs FG effects.

I dunno what to point out =P

 

White line over the text isn't that great imo. It would maybe look better without it.

EDIT: (The one I did for SOTW)

This is my fave sig by you tbh, I like the 100% brush one better though.

Nothing really to point out, just needed some more fx maybe, but it looks cool simple.

Dax's turn

Pedronus

 

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#40 daxter223
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your emblems will be in the hall of fame
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#41 Pedronus
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[QUOTE="Pedronus"]

I dunno what to point out =P

Dudersaper

Because it's too bad or because it's good?

@dax: Ok, thanks!

 

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#42 Dudersaper
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[QUOTE="Dudersaper"][QUOTE="Pedronus"]

I dunno what to point out =P

Pedronus

Because it's too bad or because it's good?

@dax: Ok, thanks!

 

I rarely point out the positive aspects because that is useless, I only point out the negative ones.

And since I didn't point out anything it means it's good =P And theres nothing I could say to improve it

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#43 Pedronus
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That's cool :D Thanks bro!
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#44 Link334
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Alot of those I made for another forum that's why the name is lelouch :lol:

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#45 BrunoBRS
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on the second and the third it looks like you just threw a gradient layer over everything...
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#46 Dudersaper
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Work on blending, effects/flow, and colours.
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#47 Pedronus
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I think you used too many effects on the 4th one.
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#48 BrunoBRS
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I think you used too many effects on the 4th one.Pedronus
now that you mention it... looks like an explosion of random effects
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#49 dragonfly110
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they all seem a bit overcontrasted to me...
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#50 Link334
Member since 2007 • 6082 Posts

on the second and the third it looks like you just threw a gradient layer over everything...BrunoBRS

Actually I did but the 1st one looks way worse than the second IMO just because the text looks so scratchy and the colors don't blend. I just started making sigs again. If someone could send some semi-easy tut's for GIMP I'd like to try them I have CS4 but I'm not quite sure how to use it as well :lol:

The 4th is actually just a bunch of wallpapers set on overlay :lol: