X-Play gave Chrono Cross the "Most disappointing sequel ever"

Ugh...I hate when people say things like that about Chrono Cross. IMO it was the perfect sequel to Trigger, its just that the story was way to complex for most people to figure out any of the connections that exist between the two games. It actually took me a few years to figure it out properly.

EDIT: But the connections between the two games are there, and are (kind of) big.

link please? i wanna read this, as for that i agree chrono cross was total and utter trash.

I agree with everything on that list except for Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2. Other than being buggy and the ending, it was better than KotOR 1 in pretty much every way.

The whiny fans that dismiss Chrono Cross because it's not the lighthearted direct sequel to Chrono Trigger annoy me to no end. Trigger, while a great game, is riding mostly on nostalgia factor while Chrono Cross brought a much more complicated and mature story to the table that remains a high point in game storytelling. Until I played Xenosaga Episode III finally, I'd considered Chrono Cross the last truly great JRPG story (not to say there haven't been "good" ones since then, but nothing on that level), and I continue to stand by that, almost 10 years later. If they started making more sequels of the same calibur as Chrono Cross, JRPGs wouldn't be in such a sad state right now.

Goddamn, DMC2 was such a stinker. They should throw up GTA IV and Mercenaries 2. wstfld

The whiny fans that dismiss Chrono Cross because it's not the lighthearted direct sequel to Chrono Trigger annoy me to no end. Trigger, while a great game, is riding mostly on nostalgia factor while Chrono Cross brought a much more complicated and mature story to the table that remains a high point in game storytelling. Until I played Xenosaga Episode III finally, I'd considered Chrono Cross the last truly great JRPG story (not to say there haven't been "good" ones since then, but nothing on that level), and I continue to stand by that, almost 10 years later. If they started making more sequels of the same calibur as Chrono Cross, JRPGs wouldn't be in such a sad state right now.

Melkari

Yeah...yeah I agree. But I honestly dont think that any RPG, wether it be Japanese or otherwise will ever beat the one told in Chrono Cross. There might be stories that are just as good as it, but I seriously dont think we will see a better one. At least not anytime soon.

That's actually a good list, I'm surprised. :P

Banjo-Kazooie Nuts & Bolts should've been in the Top Five IMO...

chrono cross was the best...

Disappointing? Maybe for some people.

Most Disappointing? Not even close. I suppose it's a good way to increase page views though.

It's a disappointing sequel because it didn't have enough in common with Chrono Trigger? I thought it was a GOOD thing it wasn't like Trigger...

Might as well call every Final Fantasy game after the first a terrible sequel simply because the only thing they'd have in common is spell and summon names.

Metal Gear Solid 2???

http://www.gamerankings.com/ps2/913941-metal-gear-solid-2-sons-of-liberty/index.html

It's no 24 best rated game of all time on Gamerankings....with an average review score of 95%

http://www.gamerankings.com/ps/197909-metal-gear-solid/index.html

As a matter of fact, it's better rated than Metal Gear Solid 1, which is 68th best ranked of all time and has an approx. 93% average review score...

XPlay fails on that one.

Chrono cross was one of the most inane games ever, with the most trivial of connections with chrono trigger and most had to be invented in the ps1 release of chrono tigger *with its extra cutscenes and story concepts that didn't exist in the snes original* It wasn't complicated it was just inane it didnt continue the story therefor it wasn't a real sequal it was just a cash in.

Ugh...I hate when people say things like that about Chrono Cross. IMO it was the perfect sequel to Trigger, its just that the story was way to complex for most people to figure out any of the connections that exist between the two games. It actually took me a few years to figure it out properly.

EDIT: But the connections between the two games are there, and are (kind of) big.

ff7cloudking

Ugh...I hate when people say things like that about Chrono Cross. IMO it was the perfect sequel to Trigger, its just that the story was way to complex for most people to figure out any of the connections that exist between the two games. It actually took me a few years to figure it out properly.

EDIT: But the connections between the two games are there, and are (kind of) big.

ff7cloudking

I dont understand why people think Chrono Cross is so bad either.

Did anyone else notice that Chrono Cross got a 10/10 here on Gamespot?

http://www.gamespot.com/ps/rpg/chronocross/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;read-review

Not to mention a 9.2 average review score and a 9.3 user average review score...

So they dont like it because its different? idiots. Had it been similar to Trigger, it would be impossible for it to be better.

Bad list is bad. Where is Age of empires 3?

So they dont like it because its different? idiots. Had it been similar to Trigger, it would be impossible for it to be better.Scythes777

I never played either, can someone give a quick summery of both games story lines? I'm just curious.

Did anyone else notice that Chrono Cross got a 10/10 here on Gamespot?

http://www.gamespot.com/ps/rpg/chronocross/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;read-review

Not to mention a 9.2 average review score and a 9.3 user average review score...

Brownesque

That score clearly indicates that X-Play is objectively wrong.

Games that scored 10/10 cannot be disappointing to anyone. If they could disappoint, they wouldn't get a perfect score.

PC games missing is really disappointing. I mean that is the one catagory they are king of the disappointments. Doom 3. Age of Empires 3. My god the list goes on and on.

I never played either, can someone give a quick summery of both games story lines? I'm just curious.

Hellsing2o2

That score clearly indicates that X-Play is objectively wrong.

Games that scored 10/10 cannot be disappointing to anyone. If they could disappoint, they wouldn't get a perfect score.sonicmj1

link please? i wanna read this, as for that i agree chrono cross was total and utter trash.

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="Brownesque"]

Did anyone else notice that Chrono Cross got a 10/10 here on Gamespot?

http://www.gamespot.com/ps/rpg/chronocross/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;read-review

Not to mention a 9.2 average review score and a 9.3 user average review score...

sonicmj1

That score clearly indicates that X-Play is objectively wrong.

Games that scored 10/10 cannot be disappointing to anyone. If they could disappoint, they wouldn't get a perfect score.

Chrono Cross was garbage, its nothing more than a dumb downed Chrono Trigger.

That's like considering Final Fantasy VII as a disappointing sequel to VI because they aren't the same. Damn fools.

Chrono Cross was garbage, its nothing more than a dumb downed Chrono Trigger.

g805ge

[QUOTE="Scythes777"]So they dont like it because its different? idiots. Had it been similar to Trigger, it would be impossible for it to be better.RandolphScott

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

[QUOTE="Brownesque"]

Did anyone else notice that Chrono Cross got a 10/10 here on Gamespot?

http://www.gamespot.com/ps/rpg/chronocross/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;read-review

Not to mention a 9.2 average review score and a 9.3 user average review score...

Brownesque

That score clearly indicates that X-Play is objectively wrong.

Games that scored 10/10 cannot be disappointing to anyone. If they could disappoint, they wouldn't get a perfect score.

Do you think that X-Play believes that their list is authoritative and cannot be challenged? Looking at any "Top __" list on the internet must make you incredibly angry, if that's how you feel about these.

If you don't, then how does the Gamespot score, average score, and user score have any relevance to Chrono Cross's place on the list?

As if I needed another reason to hate X-Play, honestly those guys are just a bunch of doichbags.

[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

That score clearly indicates that X-Play is objectively wrong.

Games that scored 10/10 cannot be disappointing to anyone. If they could disappoint, they wouldn't get a perfect score.

sonicmj1

Do you think that X-Play believes that their list is authoritative and cannot be challenged? Looking at any "Top __" list on the internet must make you incredibly angry, if that's how you feel about these.

If you don't, then how does the Gamespot score, average score, and user score have any relevance to Chrono Cross's place on the list?

MGS2, KotoR 2, RE5 and Mario Sunshine were excellent games,IronBass

well what do we expect from them they give fable 2 GOTY.

well what do we expect from them they give fable 2 GOTY.

___gamemaster__

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

Do you think that X-Play believes that their list is authoritative and cannot be challenged? Looking at any "Top __" list on the internet must make you incredibly angry, if that's how you feel about these.

If you don't, then how does the Gamespot score, average score, and user score have any relevance to Chrono Cross's place on the list?

Brownesque

It could be disappointing for reasons completely separate from its quality. I haven't seen the X-Play countdown, and I haven't played CC, but my understanding is that many fans of Chrono Trigger liked its lighthearted tale, and didn't appreciate the direction Chrono Cross took the series or the way it portrayed Trigger's protagonists and their actions in the first game.

I mean, it isn't as if this is the first time it's shown up on a list of disappointing sequels.

You can bring up the review if you like, but I'm curious what the purpose behind doing so was. I don't think its acclaim here at Gamespot is relevant to whether it is disappointing or not.

[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

Do you think that X-Play believes that their list is authoritative and cannot be challenged? Looking at any "Top __" list on the internet must make you incredibly angry, if that's how you feel about these.

If you don't, then how does the Gamespot score, average score, and user score have any relevance to Chrono Cross's place on the list?

sonicmj1

It could be disappointing for reasons completely separate from its quality. I haven't seen the X-Play countdown, and I haven't played CC, but my understanding is that many fans of Chrono Trigger liked its lighthearted tale, and didn't appreciate the direction Chrono Cross took the series or the way it portrayed Trigger's protagonists and their actions in the first game.

I mean, it isn't as if this is the first time it's shown up on a list of disappointing sequels.

You can bring up the review if you like, but I'm curious what the purpose behind doing so was. I don't think its acclaim here at Gamespot is relevant to whether it is disappointing or not.

I personally would have had YI: DS on ther but that's just cause I'm a fanboy :P The list isn't bad though. I mean its a list of disappointments, not bad games.

I like Chrono Cross (no random battles). I guess I like it because I've never played Chrono Trigger and Cross is an awesome game by itself so I can't be disappointed. If I ever get a DS, I will buy Trigger but even then, I won't say Chrono Cross sucks because it's different.

As for the list, I'm surprised they didn't put Halo 2 in the list.