Xbox team looks "obsessively" at Sony says Molyneux

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The former Microsoft exec and Lionhead boss is also "shocked" by Microsoft's lack of attention to Windows gaming

In business, it's only natural to look across the board at the competition. Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo all keep a close eye on one another to see how respective strategies and product lines are evolving. According to ex-Lionhead leader Peter Molyneux, the Microsoft camp actually looks at Sony "obsessively."

In a wide-ranging interview with Molyneux last week at E3, GamesIndustry International prefaced a general question about Sony with our own comment that Molyneux and people in even higher offices at Microsoft must be constantly looking at Sony. Molyneux quickly noted, "Yes, very much so. Obsessively so."

Overall, Molyneux believes Sony's own first-party studio system could be its savior, but he's not sure the company's corporate troubles will enable them to flourish.

"If Sony can double down on those first party developers, give them the headroom to be inventive and be creative, especially when it comes it any next gen platform, then they could pull lots of rabbits out of the hat"
Peter Molyneux

"Sony has always had a very strong first person line-up, which I think is incredibly smart. They've got good developers. They've got some very talented developers. The way I always feel with Sony is that if they double down on those first party developers, give them the headroom to be inventive and be creative, especially when it comes it any next generation platform, then they could pull lots of rabbits out of the hat," he remarked.

"What I worry about, with their corporate pressure and the pressure on costs, I worry about the ability to do that. More and more - and this is a personal thing - I just don't know where they're going in hardware terms. They had the Move, but it wasn't as early as the Wii and it wasn't as innovational as Kinect. They seem to be third in line in that race. I have expected, every single press conference for the last year, Sony to bring out this magic rabbit out from a huge hat and say, 'Aha, world. You really don't realize what's going on.' And I do worry about them."

Sizing up Microsoft's E3 showing, Molyneux commented, "I thought it was a very smart move on their behalf to focus on demos. And actually, I thought EA's line, 'You're going to see ten great demos from ten great developers,' you could have said the same for Microsoft. I felt there wasn't nearly as much Kinect stuff as previous years, which was a little bit of a surprise and a shock to me."

ROFL.

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#2 Eponique
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Molyneux should stop blaming Microsoft for his terrible games.
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#3 Nengo_Flow
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thats true here in SW too, these lems are completely obsessed with SONY
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#4 waltefmoney
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Probably can't stop laughing.

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#5 bobbetybob
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Woah woah woah, Molyneux did an interview that made sense and wasn't complete nonsense?!?!?!
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#6 BibiMaghoo
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Molyneux should stop blaming Microsoft for his terrible games.Eponique
But he is mad. Actually, mentally. Mad.
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#7 rilpas
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users are criticizing Molyneux, but I think he made a lot of sense in this interview
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#8 mems_1224
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thats true here in SW too, these lems are completely obsessed with SONYNengo_Flow
other way around
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#9 NaveedLife
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Molyneux should stop blaming Microsoft for his terrible games.Eponique

Those are the only games MS had though! :P

Kidding of course, but yes his games as of lately have been terrible.

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#10 BibiMaghoo
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[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]thats true here in SW too, these lems are completely obsessed with SONYmems_1224
other way around

Sony are obsessed with the Lems?
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#11 olart4618
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so, a company is looking its competition, wow, they discover that the water is wet

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#12 BibiMaghoo
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wow, they discover that the water is wet

olart4618
Sorry, what?
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#14 Gue1
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so, a company is looking its competition, wow, they discover that the water is wet

olart4618

you forgot this part "obsessively".

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#16 heretrix
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That just means they are doing their job. What are they supposed to do, buy them lunch?

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]thats true here in SW too, these lems are completely obsessed with SONYBibiMaghoo
other way around

Sony are obsessed with the Lems?

Well obviously that's why you have Jack Tretton and Kaz Hirai constantly posting here and talking about how lems are doomed and how much they wish lems would die without any hints of irony.

No wait, actually its the other way around.

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#18 spiderluck
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That just means they are doing their job. What are they supposed to do, buy them lunch?

heretrix
Exactly...If you're not looking at your competition obssessively then you're doing it wrong
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]thats true here in SW too, these lems are completely obsessed with SONYBibiMaghoo
other way around

Sony are obsessed with the Lems?

cows are obessed with MS. constantly comparing the ps3 to the 360 and trying to justify its failures sony has better first party studios than ms, that doesnt change the fact that the ps3 is a failure
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#20 rilpas
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[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] other way aroundSPYDER0416

Sony are obsessed with the Lems?

Well obviously that's why you have Jack Tretton and Kaz Hirai constantly posting here and talking about how lems are doomed and how much they wish lems would die without any hints of irony.

No wait, actually its the other way around.

are you sure? because a lot of what you said has happened on SW

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#21 muffintheduffin
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WOW. That was a GREAT read. It definitely showed a side of Molyneux in a different light:)

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#22 olart4618
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[QUOTE="olart4618"]

wow, they discover that the water is wet

BibiMaghoo

Sorry, what?

it's obvius that a company will put an eye in the competition

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obsessive ms spy #1: "ok... what are they doing now?"

obsessive ms spy #2: "spying obsessively on nintendo."

:P

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#24 JohnF111
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Kinda like Phonemug as well... Looking at Sony obsessively. :lol:
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obsessive ms spy #1: "ok... what are they doing now?"

obsessive ms spy #2: "spying obsessively on nintendo."

:P

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#26 heretrix
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obsessive ms spy #1: "ok... what are they doing now?"

obsessive ms spy #2: "spying obsessively on nintendo."

:P

Riverwolf007

That was a fantastic shot to the balls. I tip my imaginary hat to you sir.

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#27 GamerwillzPS
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There you go, Lems.

Everybody knows that PS3 is where the good experience are.

PS3 = King for games.

360 = King for useless apps and media hub. When was it a gaming console? Hmm...

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#28 yellosnolvr
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wow. that is unacceptable. how dare microsoft even think about sony let alone look at what they're doing. no company should ever look at their competition's work! this is outrageous! on another note, people still listen to molyneux? i thought we stopped this in 2009.
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#30 Zaibach
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Makes sense.

One is still pumping out quality retail and Downloadable titles

The other wants to make nothing but apps and recycled IPs

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#31 sakura_Ex
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thats true here in SW too, these lems are completely obsessed with SONYNengo_Flow
True.
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#32 princeofshapeir
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I don't really trust Monyleux to say anything honestly. All he wants is attention so you can buy the next crappy Fable game.
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#33 lx_theo
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I don't really trust Monyleux to say anything honestly. All he wants is attention so you can buy the next crappy Fable game.princeofshapeir
Didn't he leave Lionhead and Microsoft's employ? It would explain him being so open about the reality of how microsoft goes about these things.
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#34 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]I don't really trust Monyleux to say anything honestly. All he wants is attention so you can buy the next crappy Fable game.lx_theo
Didn't he leave Lionhead and Microsoft's employ? It would explain him being so open about the reality of how microsoft goes about these things.

I don't know, I don't care, I just know the man is a fraud and lunatic who falsely advertises for his bad games.
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Well they arn't doing a very good job at it because Sony is whooping their ass with high quality exclusives.

But it makes sense, they are afraid of Sony and they should be. Despite Sony's bad launch and MS head start, the PS3 has caught up literally right behind the heels of 360, and it's only a matter of time before they take it as they have been selling at a faster rate.

Here this explains it better:Why PlayStation 3 Will Outsell Xbox 360 -IGN

"There are a number of reasons on why the gap is rapidly closing. PlayStation 3 has many more high-quality exclusive games than Xbox 360 and a great free online service. One could easily use the old fallback that Xbox 360's insanely high failure rate earlier in its lifecycle contributed to more consoles being sold."

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#36 zarshack
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Molyneux admits he's a cow :P

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#37 zarshack
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Molyneux admits he's a cow :P

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#38 Zero_epyon
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WOW. That was a GREAT read. It definitely showed a side of Molyneux in a different light:)

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Haha I'm part of you sig awesome. I remember that too that was about Mafia Wars 2 on the PS3.
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#39 zarshack
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Molyneux admits he's a cow :P

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#40 rilpas
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obsessive ms spy #1: "ok... what are they doing now?"

obsessive ms spy #2: "spying obsessively on nintendo."

:P

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hahah
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#41 TheOwnerOner
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Cows have always claimed that Peter Molyneux was crazy and overly obsessive himself. This thread has a whole lot of Irony
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#42 speedfog
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There you go, Lems.

Everybody knows that PS3 is where the good experience are.

PS3 = King for games.

360 = King for useless apps and media hub. When was it a gaming console? Hmm...

GamerwillzPS

Shut up, nobody cares about your opninion!

Serious.

And no ps3 sucks compared to 360. (but thats just my opninion...)

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#43 WilliamRLBaker
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pre interview cows: molyneux is a hack.

Post interview cows: Oh molyneux *touches self*

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Molyneux should stop blaming Microsoft for his terrible games.Eponique
LOL good one.
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#45 Pikachu69er
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:lol: ps4 domination next gen confirmed! the ps3 was meerly an egg that was placed

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#46 soulitane
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Probably just like how both sides care so much about what the other side is playing.
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#47 PS_Family
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Poor Microsoft, always trying so hard to be like Sony.

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#48 sandbox3d
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pre interview cows: molyneux is a hack.

Post interview cows: Oh molyneux *touches self*

WilliamRLBaker

:lol:

The ever changing tides of System Wars!

Really though, I'd watch the competition obsessively as well. This applies to Sony and Nintendo every bit as much as it applies to MS. Surely you wouldn't expect a company to sit back and pretend the others don't exist. They may talk big and pretend its that way, but obviously they watch every move.

And considering Molyneux was riding the Xbox brand from very early on its perfectly understandable that he would have seen MS obsessing over the giant that was Sony. They were #1 by a huge margin. The only reason they took such a fall is because they were compromised from the inside, but even after soooo many terrible blunders they still managed to pull off a success. MS can learn a lot from Sonys mistakes as well as their successful moves so why not?

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#49 campzor
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thats true here in SW too, these lems are completely obsessed with SONYNengo_Flow
came here to say this.
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#50 ZombieKiller7
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Interesting

Not sure what it all means.