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#1 Sokol4ever
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I understand the power difference between the two system however as I am planning to add Xbox system to join my Ps4 in the next few weeks I'm not sure if I need Scorpio or just start off with the Xbox One.

I don't own a 4K tv and I am looking to start with the original Xbox Franchises. Halo, Gears and so forth to catch up on the story.

I'm also looking at the price difference. I can pick up a 500gb Xbox One Slim for 199$ and the games themselves are at very good discounted price.

On the other hand, Scorpio is more future proofed and I am not sure if it will play the Xbox One games that I would like to catch up with. Also the Scorpio price is another question.

Appreciate the help. :)

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#2  Edited By ConanTheStoner
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Do you just want it for its exclusives alone? Probably roll with the regular Xbone.

Plan on playing your multiplats on consoles too? Scorpio will be your best bet.

Aside from that, yeah it's just a matter of price and your budget.

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#3 GordonFreeman
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Scorpio provides benefits to all games whether unpatched or not, not to mention any game that operates at a higher resolution will automatically downsample to 1080p providing a drastically cleaner image if you haven't moved to a 4K TV as of yet.

It's all a factor of cost, one is $200 and the other will likely be between $400 and $500, frankly if you're getting an Xbox this late I would just get Scorpio.

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If price is an issue go with the OG. If not, Scropio all the way.

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They're revealing it tomorrow. Might be easier for you to make your decision once you see the price, games, release date.

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@Sokol4ever said:

I understand the power difference between the two system however as I am planning to add Xbox system to join my Ps4 in the next few weeks I'm not sure if I need Scorpio or just start off with the Xbox One.

I don't own a 4K tv and I am looking to start with the original Xbox Franchises. Halo, Gears and so forth to catch up on the story.

I'm also looking at the price difference. I can pick up a 500gb Xbox One Slim for 199$ and the games themselves are at very good discounted price.

On the other hand, Scorpio is more future proofed and I am not sure if it will play the Xbox One games that I would like to catch up with. Also the Scorpio price is another question.

Appreciate the help. :)

Better off getting the Scorpio at this stage. The Scorpio will give you 1080p 60fps for every game if you only got a 1080p TV. If you do buy a 4K tv, the Scorpio will take advantage of that.

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@Chutebox said:

If price is an issue go with the OG. If not, Scropio all the way.

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@loe12k said:
@Sokol4ever said:

I understand the power difference between the two system however as I am planning to add Xbox system to join my Ps4 in the next few weeks I'm not sure if I need Scorpio or just start off with the Xbox One.

I don't own a 4K tv and I am looking to start with the original Xbox Franchises. Halo, Gears and so forth to catch up on the story.

I'm also looking at the price difference. I can pick up a 500gb Xbox One Slim for 199$ and the games themselves are at very good discounted price.

On the other hand, Scorpio is more future proofed and I am not sure if it will play the Xbox One games that I would like to catch up with. Also the Scorpio price is another question.

Appreciate the help. :)

Better off getting the Scorpio at this stage. The Scorpio will give you 1080p 60fps for every game if you only got a 1080p TV. If you do buy a 4K tv, the Scorpio will take advantage of that.

Ugh no...

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#9  Edited By Howmakewood
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@loe12k: that's a bit missleading, Scorpio wont turn 30fps to 60fps w/o the developers making a patch for it, you do still get benefits like AF,Supersampling and so on

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@gordonfreeman said:
@loe12k said:
@Sokol4ever said:

I understand the power difference between the two system however as I am planning to add Xbox system to join my Ps4 in the next few weeks I'm not sure if I need Scorpio or just start off with the Xbox One.

I don't own a 4K tv and I am looking to start with the original Xbox Franchises. Halo, Gears and so forth to catch up on the story.

I'm also looking at the price difference. I can pick up a 500gb Xbox One Slim for 199$ and the games themselves are at very good discounted price.

On the other hand, Scorpio is more future proofed and I am not sure if it will play the Xbox One games that I would like to catch up with. Also the Scorpio price is another question.

Appreciate the help. :)

Better off getting the Scorpio at this stage. The Scorpio will give you 1080p 60fps for every game if you only got a 1080p TV. If you do buy a 4K tv, the Scorpio will take advantage of that.

Ugh no...

oh yes..

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#11 GordonFreeman
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@loe12k said:
@gordonfreeman said:
@loe12k said:
@Sokol4ever said:

I understand the power difference between the two system however as I am planning to add Xbox system to join my Ps4 in the next few weeks I'm not sure if I need Scorpio or just start off with the Xbox One.

I don't own a 4K tv and I am looking to start with the original Xbox Franchises. Halo, Gears and so forth to catch up on the story.

I'm also looking at the price difference. I can pick up a 500gb Xbox One Slim for 199$ and the games themselves are at very good discounted price.

On the other hand, Scorpio is more future proofed and I am not sure if it will play the Xbox One games that I would like to catch up with. Also the Scorpio price is another question.

Appreciate the help. :)

Better off getting the Scorpio at this stage. The Scorpio will give you 1080p 60fps for every game if you only got a 1080p TV. If you do buy a 4K tv, the Scorpio will take advantage of that.

Ugh no...

oh yes..

That's not how it works kiddo, the system doesn't just automatically make games run at 60 FPS overriding game code... If a developer codes the game at 30 FPS it will be 30 FPS on Scorpio.

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@howmakewood said:

@loe12k: that's a bit missleading, Scorpio wont turn 30fps to 60fps w/o the developers making a patch for it, you do still get benefits like AF,Supersampling and so on

Developers have PC ( DX12) ports already, could port that over.

I will take back what i said though you right. Small dev teams probably will not update their games.

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@gordonfreeman said:
@loe12k said:
@gordonfreeman said:
@loe12k said:
@Sokol4ever said:

I understand the power difference between the two system however as I am planning to add Xbox system to join my Ps4 in the next few weeks I'm not sure if I need Scorpio or just start off with the Xbox One.

I don't own a 4K tv and I am looking to start with the original Xbox Franchises. Halo, Gears and so forth to catch up on the story.

I'm also looking at the price difference. I can pick up a 500gb Xbox One Slim for 199$ and the games themselves are at very good discounted price.

On the other hand, Scorpio is more future proofed and I am not sure if it will play the Xbox One games that I would like to catch up with. Also the Scorpio price is another question.

Appreciate the help. :)

Better off getting the Scorpio at this stage. The Scorpio will give you 1080p 60fps for every game if you only got a 1080p TV. If you do buy a 4K tv, the Scorpio will take advantage of that.

Ugh no...

oh yes..

That's not how it works kiddo, the system doesn't just automatically make games run at 60 FPS overriding game code... If a developer codes the game at 30 FPS it will be 30 FPS on Scorpio.

Yes, that's is fact. Codes are locked in that respect, you would have to make the whole game again for 60fps.

The op should buy the S if price is a factor, Scorpio if not.

Personally, buy a PC for multiplats and a PS and Switch for exclusives.

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#14  Edited By loe12k
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@gordonfreeman said:
@loe12k said:
@gordonfreeman said:
@loe12k said:

Better off getting the Scorpio at this stage. The Scorpio will give you 1080p 60fps for every game if you only got a 1080p TV. If you do buy a 4K tv, the Scorpio will take advantage of that.

Ugh no...

oh yes..

That's not how it works kiddo, the system doesn't just automatically make games run at 60 FPS overriding game code... If a developer codes the game at 30 FPS it will be 30 FPS on Scorpio.

Depending on the game, realistically. We forget most AAA games run at 60fps on PC. Xbox and PC use x86 and similar API. Most cases it just require a port over or patching to a updated version.

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Lord, when Tiger is talking technical you know things have gone to shit.

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@Random_Matt said:
@gordonfreeman said:
@loe12k said:
@gordonfreeman said:
@loe12k said:

Better off getting the Scorpio at this stage. The Scorpio will give you 1080p 60fps for every game if you only got a 1080p TV. If you do buy a 4K tv, the Scorpio will take advantage of that.

Ugh no...

oh yes..

That's not how it works kiddo, the system doesn't just automatically make games run at 60 FPS overriding game code... If a developer codes the game at 30 FPS it will be 30 FPS on Scorpio.

Yes, that's is fact. Codes are locked in that respect, you would have to make the whole game again for 60fps.

The op should buy the S if price is a factor, Scorpio if not.

Personally, buy a PC for multiplats and a PS and Switch for exclusives.

Rubbish games are scaled down to fit specifications of the hardware. That only made sense if we had no PC version and most games are 60fps or higher.

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@Random_Matt: That's not totally accurate either, not all games are coded to rely on certain frametime, it depends on the game basis, like DS3 on ps4 pro for example runs on unlocked fps and sometimes hits 60fps, they didn't remake the whole game

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#18 GordonFreeman
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@loe12k said:
@Random_Matt said:
@gordonfreeman said:
@loe12k said:
@gordonfreeman said:

Ugh no...

oh yes..

That's not how it works kiddo, the system doesn't just automatically make games run at 60 FPS overriding game code... If a developer codes the game at 30 FPS it will be 30 FPS on Scorpio.

Yes, that's is fact. Codes are locked in that respect, you would have to make the whole game again for 60fps.

The op should buy the S if price is a factor, Scorpio if not.

Personally, buy a PC for multiplats and a PS and Switch for exclusives.

Rubbish games are scaled down to fit specifications of the hardware. That only made sense if we had no PC version and most games are 60fps or higher.

If a developer doesn't code it, it's not going to magically take place.

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#19 loe12k
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@gordonfreeman said:
@loe12k said:
@Random_Matt said:
@gordonfreeman said:
@loe12k said:

oh yes..

That's not how it works kiddo, the system doesn't just automatically make games run at 60 FPS overriding game code... If a developer codes the game at 30 FPS it will be 30 FPS on Scorpio.

Yes, that's is fact. Codes are locked in that respect, you would have to make the whole game again for 60fps.

The op should buy the S if price is a factor, Scorpio if not.

Personally, buy a PC for multiplats and a PS and Switch for exclusives.

Rubbish games are scaled down to fit specifications of the hardware. That only made sense if we had no PC version and most games are 60fps or higher.

If a developer doesn't code it, it's not going to magically take place.

True, but most of the big titles do 60fps.

Where you are right is. A title like Sunset Overdrive would be an issue. The game only came out for xbox one and it was 900p 30fps. To be a 60fps title, it not easy.

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#20  Edited By lamprey263
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I'd wait until we know more about the Scorpio tomorrow, if it's relatively affordable and not much more than a base XB1 then I don't see why you'd not get a Scorpio. At the very least, if you're still not sold on it, at least make sure you pick up an XB1 S.

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#21 loe12k
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@howmakewood said:

@Random_Matt: That's not totally accurate either, not all games are coded to rely on certain frametime, it depends on the game basis, like DS3 on ps4 pro for example runs on unlocked fps and sometimes hits 60fps, they didn't remake the whole game

Remake the whole game, is nonsense. How easy would it be to change the frame rate of Sunset Overdrive from 30fps to 60fps.. It's a game i would love to see patched for Scorpio.

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Why wait to learn more?

Buy the Scorpio now because at the rate this thread is going it'll run all games at 8k and 120 fps by the end of the day.

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#23 Sokol4ever
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Thank you everyone for the great suggestions, I am definitely purchasing the Xbox and after tomorrow's E3 I will decide which version to get.

I do have PS4 and both myself and my wife have lost of friends in different countries who own Xbox and want to play with us online who don't have the PS4 so we wanted to add a console to our home. :)

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@loe12k said:
@Sokol4ever said:

I understand the power difference between the two system however as I am planning to add Xbox system to join my Ps4 in the next few weeks I'm not sure if I need Scorpio or just start off with the Xbox One.

I don't own a 4K tv and I am looking to start with the original Xbox Franchises. Halo, Gears and so forth to catch up on the story.

I'm also looking at the price difference. I can pick up a 500gb Xbox One Slim for 199$ and the games themselves are at very good discounted price.

On the other hand, Scorpio is more future proofed and I am not sure if it will play the Xbox One games that I would like to catch up with. Also the Scorpio price is another question.

Appreciate the help. :)

Better off getting the Scorpio at this stage. The Scorpio will give you 1080p 60fps for every game if you only got a 1080p TV. If you do buy a 4K tv, the Scorpio will take advantage of that.

No it won't give you 1080p 60fps for every game if you only got a 1080p TV that is just silly.

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@Addict187 said:
@loe12k said:
@Sokol4ever said:

I understand the power difference between the two system however as I am planning to add Xbox system to join my Ps4 in the next few weeks I'm not sure if I need Scorpio or just start off with the Xbox One.

I don't own a 4K tv and I am looking to start with the original Xbox Franchises. Halo, Gears and so forth to catch up on the story.

I'm also looking at the price difference. I can pick up a 500gb Xbox One Slim for 199$ and the games themselves are at very good discounted price.

On the other hand, Scorpio is more future proofed and I am not sure if it will play the Xbox One games that I would like to catch up with. Also the Scorpio price is another question.

Appreciate the help. :)

Better off getting the Scorpio at this stage. The Scorpio will give you 1080p 60fps for every game if you only got a 1080p TV. If you do buy a 4K tv, the Scorpio will take advantage of that.

No it won't give you 1080p 60fps for every game if you only got a 1080p TV that is just silly.

We don't know what games are going to be patched and reworked to be better for Scorpio. I agree though mostly likely lot of games will remain the same and never see a patch for Scorpio.

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@kvally said:
@Chutebox said:

If price is an issue go with the OG. If not, Scropio all the way.

Pretty much this.

If price isn't an issue, you should always get the better / latter version of the console.

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New sticky up: https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/official-e3-microsoft-thread-33394377/#1.