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http://www.destructoid.com/gamestop-360-has-2-1-lead-over-ps3-in-gta-iv-s-first-week-sales-85683.phtml

GameStop has revealed their first-week sales numbers for Grand Theft Auto IVexclusively to Level Up, and they're certainly not too surprising. According to the specialty retail giant, roughly 64 percent of the copies sold were on the Xbox 360, with the other 36 percent (obviously) for the PlayStation 3.

Microsoft FTW? According to Level Up's number-crunching, an Xbox 360 victory is not quite so clear. Comparing the NPD group numbers that indicate a 9.9 million-user Xbox 360 install base versus 4.1 million PlayStation 3s (roughly 70/30), the Xbox 360 version actually "underperformed."

VG Chart has these numbers (ROUGHLY) as of May 10th, NOT THE FIRST WEEK:

PS3: 300,211

360: 262,532

I'm just reporting news, I could care less about sales, but I know some people on System Wars do.

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#2 madmidnight
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VG charts?, really?
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#3 Sooshy
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Not everyone who owns a 360 or PS3 are potential consumers for this type of game. We don't know the demographics, so these types of comparisons are dumb.
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#4 R4gn4r0k
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VG charts?, really?madmidnight


:P
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#5 thrones
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Or the PS3 version overperformed :P
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your using VG chartz to prove your points when gamestop says the 360 version sold better......

you couldve asked me, i wouldve made some numbers up as well, you can use that.

GTA4 on Wii sold 23479238749238 copies, happy?

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#7 ParadiddleFill
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cute way of damage controlling gta4 sold more on the 360

/thread

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#8 Sooshy
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cute way of damage controlling gta4 sold more on the 360

/thread

ParadiddleFill
There are more 360 owners than PS3 owners, so of course it's going to sell better on that platform.
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Or the PS3 version overperformed :Pthrones
Proving the PS3 really doesn't have any other good game to play FTW...
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[QUOTE="madmidnight"]VG charts?, really?R4gn4r0k


:P

LMAO, NO WAI.

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#11 thrones
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cute way of damage controlling gta4 sold more on the 360

/thread

ParadiddleFill

Who actually predictyed a Ps3 sales victory? :|

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#12 ParadiddleFill
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

cute way of damage controlling gta4 sold more on the 360

/thread

Sooshy

There are more 360 owners than PS3 owners, so of course it's going to sell better on that platform.

whats your point? devil may cry sold better on the ps3

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#13 ParadiddleFill
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

cute way of damage controlling gta4 sold more on the 360

/thread

thrones

Who actually predictyed a Ps3 sales victory? :|

some cows actually

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[QUOTE="thrones"]Or the PS3 version overperformed :PDXGreat1_HGL
Proving the PS3 really doesn't have any other good game to play FTW...

Fanboys, spinning everything negative since '89

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Or the PS3 version overperformed :Pthrones
lol interesting..
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#16 thrones
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[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

cute way of damage controlling gta4 sold more on the 360

/thread

ParadiddleFill

There are more 360 owners than PS3 owners, so of course it's going to sell better on that platform.

whats your point? devil may cry sold better on the ps3

Japan.

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buh buh buh buh teh excloooosive DLC :cry:
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#18 ParadiddleFill
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

cute way of damage controlling gta4 sold more on the 360

/thread

thrones

There are more 360 owners than PS3 owners, so of course it's going to sell better on that platform.

whats your point? devil may cry sold better on the ps3

Japan.

i think it was world wide actually

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#19 Sooshy
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[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

cute way of damage controlling gta4 sold more on the 360

/thread

ParadiddleFill

There are more 360 owners than PS3 owners, so of course it's going to sell better on that platform.

whats your point? devil may cry sold better on the ps3

You don't think Japan helped out with that? According to VGChartz (I know, LOL VGCHARTZ!), the 360 did sell better in the U.S. where there are more 360 owners.
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

cute way of damage controlling gta4 sold more on the 360

/thread

ParadiddleFill

There are more 360 owners than PS3 owners, so of course it's going to sell better on that platform.

whats your point? devil may cry sold better on the ps3

Japan.

i think it was world wide actually

Yes, but thanks to Japan. Gosh think people..:x
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#21 ParadiddleFill
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

cute way of damage controlling gta4 sold more on the 360

/thread

Sooshy

There are more 360 owners than PS3 owners, so of course it's going to sell better on that platform.

whats your point? devil may cry sold better on the ps3

You don't think Japan helped out with that? According to VGChartz (I know, LOL VGCHARTZ!), the 360 did sell better in the U.S. where there are more 360 owners.

no i also think that devil may cry sold better for the ps3 in the states

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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

AC-360

Japan.

i think it was world wide actually

Yes, but thanks to Japan. Gosh think people..:x

but even with japan you still had more 360's out there then ps3's so by your logic the 360 version still should of outsold the ps3 version

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#23 AC-360
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[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

cute way of damage controlling gta4 sold more on the 360

/thread

ParadiddleFill

There are more 360 owners than PS3 owners, so of course it's going to sell better on that platform.

whats your point? devil may cry sold better on the ps3

You don't think Japan helped out with that? According to VGChartz (I know, LOL VGCHARTZ!), the 360 did sell better in the U.S. where there are more 360 owners.

no i also think that devil may cry sold better for the ps3 in the states

Stop thinking, go look at the figures. You're wrong.
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

cute way of damage controlling gta4 sold more on the 360

/thread

ParadiddleFill

Who actually predictyed a Ps3 sales victory? :|

some cows actually

I'm PS3 all day and even I knew the 360 would sell more, 5 million more people has a 360. It would help if you used common since.

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http://www.destructoid.com/gamestop-360-has-2-1-lead-over-ps3-in-gta-iv-s-first-week-sales-85683.phtml

GameStop has revealed their first-week sales numbers for Grand Theft Auto IVexclusively to Level Up, and they're certainly not too surprising. According to the specialty retail giant, roughly 64 percent of the copies sold were on the Xbox 360, with the other 36 percent (obviously) for the PlayStation 3.

Microsoft FTW? According to Level Up's number-crunching, an Xbox 360 victory is not quite so clear. Comparing the NPD group numbers that indicate a 9.9 million-user Xbox 360 install base versus 4.1 million PlayStation 3s (roughly 70/30), the Xbox 360 version actually "underperformed."

VG Chart has these numbers (ROUGHLY) as of May 10th, NOT THE FIRST WEEK:

PS3: 300,211

360: 262,532

I'm just reporting news, I could care less about sales, but I know some people on System Wars do.

CubanBlunt
Last week there was a shortage of GTA4 copies for 360. I know, I looked for another copy for my brother last week on his birthday. Everywhere I went last week said they had a few PS3 copies but no 360 copies. So I could see why it was low last week, and then you say you could care less about the numbers but you bring up the numbers game anyways, you contradict yourself don't you think. It's kind of like saying to somebody "your stupid but I'm not saying your stupid just pointing out to let you know".
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#26 Sooshy
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[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

cute way of damage controlling gta4 sold more on the 360

/thread

ParadiddleFill

There are more 360 owners than PS3 owners, so of course it's going to sell better on that platform.

whats your point? devil may cry sold better on the ps3

You don't think Japan helped out with that? According to VGChartz (I know, LOL VGCHARTZ!), the 360 did sell better in the U.S. where there are more 360 owners.

no i also think that devil may cry sold better for the ps3 in the states

Not according to VGChartz. If you can find a link to back your claim then I'll believe you, but until then you're just arguing with no evidence.

I don't even own a PS3, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that a reason GTA4 sold better on the 360 is because there are more 360 owners. I'm not saying it's the only reason, but it is a reason.

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#27 ParadiddleFill
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]


AC-360

no i also think that devil may cry sold better for the ps3 in the states

Stop thinking, go look at the figures. You're wrong.

again even if im wrong about the us sales which i could be, the ps3 version did outsell the 360 worldwide even when there were more 360s out then ps3's

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[QUOTE="AC-360"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

ParadiddleFill

Japan.

i think it was world wide actually

Yes, but thanks to Japan. Gosh think people..:x

but even with japan you still had more 360's out there then ps3's so by your logic the 360 version still should of outsold the ps3 version

A Bush supporter...figures.. :roll:

NO. Devil May Cry was a Playstation franchise thats why it sold more on PS3. That's where alot of the fans are.

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I'd say it's because 360 has more casual players. casual players don't go out and buy 60 dollar games the first week they are released.
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#30 ParadiddleFill
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="AC-360"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

AC-360

A Bush supporter...figures.. :roll:

NO. Devil May Cry was a Playstation franchise thats why it sold more on PS3. That's where alot of the fans are.

and not bashing every cow out there but prior to gta4 coming out i saw a few fanboys making threads saying how gta4 will sell more on the ps3 then the 360 because it was "Playstation franchise".

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#31 Sooshy
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again even if im wrong about the us sales which i could be, the ps3 version did outsell the 360 worldwide even when there were more 360s out then ps3's

ParadiddleFill
Wow. Let me ask you this: Do you think the 360 version of GTA4 would outsell the PS3 version in Japan?
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#32 ParadiddleFill
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

again even if im wrong about the us sales which i could be, the ps3 version did outsell the 360 worldwide even when there were more 360s out then ps3's

Sooshy

Wow. Let me ask you this: Do you think the 360 version of GTA4 would outsell the PS3 version in Japan?

no but thats because there are more ps3s in japan then 360's but world wide there are more 360s and yet devil may cry outsold the 360 version

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#33 Fusible
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Sooshy"]

There are more 360 owners than PS3 owners, so of course it's going to sell better on that platform.
AC-360

whats your point? devil may cry sold better on the ps3

You don't think Japan helped out with that? According to VGChartz (I know, LOL VGCHARTZ!), the 360 did sell better in the U.S. where there are more 360 owners.

no i also think that devil may cry sold better for the ps3 in the states

Stop thinking, go look at the figures. You're wrong.

The numbers for the states is PS3 480,000+ and 360 650,000+ worldwide it sold 150,000+ because of Japan selling 300,000+ for PS3 and 70,000 on 360. Even then I haven't been able to get into DMC game since DMC2.
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[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

http://www.destructoid.com/gamestop-360-has-2-1-lead-over-ps3-in-gta-iv-s-first-week-sales-85683.phtml

GameStop has revealed their first-week sales numbers for Grand Theft Auto IVexclusively to Level Up, and they're certainly not too surprising. According to the specialty retail giant, roughly 64 percent of the copies sold were on the Xbox 360, with the other 36 percent (obviously) for the PlayStation 3.

Microsoft FTW? According to Level Up's number-crunching, an Xbox 360 victory is not quite so clear. Comparing the NPD group numbers that indicate a 9.9 million-user Xbox 360 install base versus 4.1 million PlayStation 3s (roughly 70/30), the Xbox 360 version actually "underperformed."

VG Chart has these numbers (ROUGHLY) as of May 10th, NOT THE FIRST WEEK:

PS3: 300,211

360: 262,532

I'm just reporting news, I could care less about sales, but I know some people on System Wars do.

Fusible

Last week there was a shortage of GTA4 copies for 360. I know, I looked for another copy for my brother last week on his birthday. Everywhere I went last week said they had a few PS3 copies but no 360 copies. So I could see why it was low last week, and then you say you could care less about the numbers but you bring up the numbers game anyways, you contradict yourself don't you think. It's kind of like saying to somebody "your stupid but I'm not saying your stupid just pointing out to let you know".

"I'm just reporting news, I could care less about sales, but I know some people on System Wars do", number are just a update of the sales. When I start getting the GTA4, PS3, and 360 money, then I will care, I only make $43k a year so why should I care how much money there're getting?

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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

cute way of damage controlling gta4 sold more on the 360

/thread

CubanBlunt

Who actually predictyed a Ps3 sales victory? :|

some cows actually

I'm PS3 all day and even I knew the 360 would sell more, 5 million more people has a 360. It would help if you used common since.

actually he's right. there were cows that claimed the ps3 version will outsell the 360 version.

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who the eff cares? mods, cant you start killing these "which system sold more gta4 copies" threads? its absolutely ridiculous. WHO CARES.
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#37 Fusible
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[QUOTE="Fusible"][QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

http://www.destructoid.com/gamestop-360-has-2-1-lead-over-ps3-in-gta-iv-s-first-week-sales-85683.phtml

GameStop has revealed their first-week sales numbers for Grand Theft Auto IVexclusively to Level Up, and they're certainly not too surprising. According to the specialty retail giant, roughly 64 percent of the copies sold were on the Xbox 360, with the other 36 percent (obviously) for the PlayStation 3.

Microsoft FTW? According to Level Up's number-crunching, an Xbox 360 victory is not quite so clear. Comparing the NPD group numbers that indicate a 9.9 million-user Xbox 360 install base versus 4.1 million PlayStation 3s (roughly 70/30), the Xbox 360 version actually "underperformed."

VG Chart has these numbers (ROUGHLY) as of May 10th, NOT THE FIRST WEEK:

PS3: 300,211

360: 262,532

I'm just reporting news, I could care less about sales, but I know some people on System Wars do.

CubanBlunt

Last week there was a shortage of GTA4 copies for 360. I know, I looked for another copy for my brother last week on his birthday. Everywhere I went last week said they had a few PS3 copies but no 360 copies. So I could see why it was low last week, and then you say you could care less about the numbers but you bring up the numbers game anyways, you contradict yourself don't you think. It's kind of like saying to somebody "your stupid but I'm not saying your stupid just pointing out to let you know".

"I'm just reporting news, I could care less about sales, but I know some people on System Wars do", number are just a update of the sales. When I start getting the GTA4, PS3, and 360 money, then I will care, I only make $43k a year so why should I care how much money there're getting?

Well at least I'll give you this much at least you work compared to some people I won't name here.
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#38 Sooshy
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[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

again even if im wrong about the us sales which i could be, the ps3 version did outsell the 360 worldwide even when there were more 360s out then ps3's

ParadiddleFill

Wow. Let me ask you this: Do you think the 360 version of GTA4 would outsell the PS3 version in Japan?

no but thats because there are more ps3s in japan then 360's but world wide there are more 360s and yet devil may cry outsold the 360 version

...

Because there are so many more PS3's in Japan than 360's.

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If Cows had never suggested the game would sell better on the PS3, this wouldn't be an issue.

Of course a game like this will sell better on the 360. It has a bigger install base. it has a higher software attach ratio.

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#40 ParadiddleFill
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

again even if im wrong about the us sales which i could be, the ps3 version did outsell the 360 worldwide even when there were more 360s out then ps3's

Sooshy

Wow. Let me ask you this: Do you think the 360 version of GTA4 would outsell the PS3 version in Japan?

no but thats because there are more ps3s in japan then 360's but world wide there are more 360s and yet devil may cry outsold the 360 version

...

Because there are so many more PS3's in Japan than 360's.

but japan figures are added to worlwide numbers, it isnt like they count world figures and leave out japan

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#41 ParadiddleFill
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If Cows had never suggested the game would sell better on the PS3, this wouldn't be an issue.

Of course a game like this will sell better on the 360. It has a bigger install base. it has a higher software attach ratio.

Dreams-Visions

agreed, and not only were they saying that the ps3 version would outsell the 360 version they were actually using devil may cry as an example saying install base doesnt mean anything, and how gta4 is a sony franchise and what not

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#42 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

If Cows had never suggested the game would sell better on the PS3, this wouldn't be an issue.

Of course a game like this will sell better on the 360. It has a bigger install base. it has a higher software attach ratio.

ParadiddleFill

agreed, and not only were they saying that the ps3 version would outsell the 360 version they were actually using devil may cry as an example saying install base doesnt mean anything, and how gta4 is a sony franchise and what not

And now they wanna blame everyone else and damage control a ridiculous prediction.

Good luck, Cows. You dug the hole. You buried yourselves.

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#44 AdolescentDon
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Well what do you expect, PS3 owners are starved for games :P

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#45 Sooshy
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[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

again even if im wrong about the us sales which i could be, the ps3 version did outsell the 360 worldwide even when there were more 360s out then ps3's

ParadiddleFill

Wow. Let me ask you this: Do you think the 360 version of GTA4 would outsell the PS3 version in Japan?

no but thats because there are more ps3s in japan then 360's but world wide there are more 360s and yet devil may cry outsold the 360 version

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Because there are so many more PS3's in Japan than 360's.

but japan figures are added to worlwide numbers, it isnt like they count world figures and leave out japan

You're right, but we can see how a game does on a region by region basis. DMC4 sold better on 360 than PS3 in the U.S. because there are more 360 users. DMC4 sold better on PS3 than 360 in Japan because there are more PS3 owners.

You said yourself that if GTA4 came out in Japan, it would probably sell better on the PS3. GTA4 sold more in the U.S. on the 360. Now, why do you think this is? Do you think if there were more PS3 owners in the U.S., it still would have sold better on the 360?

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#46 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

If Cows had never suggested the game would sell better on the PS3, this wouldn't be an issue.

Of course a game like this will sell better on the 360. It has a bigger install base. it has a higher software attach ratio.

Dreams-Visions

agreed, and not only were they saying that the ps3 version would outsell the 360 version they were actually using devil may cry as an example saying install base doesnt mean anything, and how gta4 is a sony franchise and what not

And now they wanna blame everyone else and damage control a ridiculous prediction.

Good luck, Cows. You dug the hole. You buried yourselves.

I know cows are not alone in doing this, but they definately seem the worst offenders at making ridiculous hype claims and then denying they ever existed or that they ever saw them. I'm not saying anyone posting in here was guilty of it but i've hardly been on this site in the last 3 or 4 months and i've at least 2 threads about it.
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#47 ReverseCycology
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There were more 360s sold than PS3 during GTA IV week.

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#48 bphan
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#49 karram
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Next time use a reliable source.
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#50 h575309
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[QUOTE="Fusible"][QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

http://www.destructoid.com/gamestop-360-has-2-1-lead-over-ps3-in-gta-iv-s-first-week-sales-85683.phtml

GameStop has revealed their first-week sales numbers for Grand Theft Auto IVexclusively to Level Up, and they're certainly not too surprising. According to the specialty retail giant, roughly 64 percent of the copies sold were on the Xbox 360, with the other 36 percent (obviously) for the PlayStation 3.

Microsoft FTW? According to Level Up's number-crunching, an Xbox 360 victory is not quite so clear. Comparing the NPD group numbers that indicate a 9.9 million-user Xbox 360 install base versus 4.1 million PlayStation 3s (roughly 70/30), the Xbox 360 version actually "underperformed."

VG Chart has these numbers (ROUGHLY) as of May 10th, NOT THE FIRST WEEK:

PS3: 300,211

360: 262,532

I'm just reporting news, I could care less about sales, but I know some people on System Wars do.

CubanBlunt

Last week there was a shortage of GTA4 copies for 360. I know, I looked for another copy for my brother last week on his birthday. Everywhere I went last week said they had a few PS3 copies but no 360 copies. So I could see why it was low last week, and then you say you could care less about the numbers but you bring up the numbers game anyways, you contradict yourself don't you think. It's kind of like saying to somebody "your stupid but I'm not saying your stupid just pointing out to let you know".

"I'm just reporting news, I could care less about sales, but I know some people on System Wars do", number are just a update of the sales. When I start getting the GTA4, PS3, and 360 money, then I will care, I only make $43k a year so why should I care how much money there're getting?

what do you do for 43k a yr? a teacher?