Wow, i've been reading a lot of stupid things here on SW lately.

also, do you know how much data the MGS4 game disc contains? if it ever is ported for some demonic reason, it'll probably be on several discs, making the game a lot less seamless; it'll also be watered down to the fullest.

GUNpoint_

Of course, i doubt that there would only be one disc, since there are (a few) 90 minute cut scenes (Approximate). I would hope no one did something stupid like porting it, then when lemmings complain that the controls suck, or that the story made no sense (I bet there WOULD be cuts...In the cut scenes..), all they would do is complain and/or attack PS3 owners for having terrible games..

There world of gaming is not a nice place.

I agree with most of what you are saying, with the exception of the disk switching part. FF7 and its successors for the original PS did this and I didnt mind at all. Its not THAT much of a hassle lol.ganon546

Amazing. You read dumb stuff then decide to post....What?

I come in expecting to read something profound and all I get is another "Metal Gear is the Best and it ain't coming to the 360" Thread.

You sure showed those lemmings.

things like, 'MGS4 will come to the X360, only a matter of time..' and 'MGS4 has dull gameplay, it's basically just a movie, hmph!' first, i'd like to take everybody back in time to when MGS2 was released on the Xbox. not only did the game sell horribly, but the clunky Xbox controller didn't suit the series at ALL. why do you think MGS3 remained exclusive? because Kojima knew that the Xbox fanbase was into shooters, not complex stealth action games. (except for crap Splinter Cell.)

also, do you know how much data the MGS4 game disc contains? if it ever is ported for some demonic reason, it'll probably be on several discs, making the game a lot less seamless; it'll also be watered down to the fullest. Kojima knows when he's made a mistake, and porting MGS2 to the Xbox was one of them. maybe you lemmings will get extremely lucky and another dev gets permission from Kojima to port MGS4 to the xbox; as was the case with NGS & MGS:TS. but keep in mind, it WON'T be the same experience, and if that horrible event ever does take place, it'll be a long, long time from now.

and MGS4 has dull gameplay huh? any of you lemmings played it yet? No. but i've played the Beta, and the gameplay is significantly faster paced then MGS1-3. gunplay has been vastly improved, and CQC has been practically refined to perfection. and 90 minute cutscenes? that rumor has already been debunked. even so, MGS's story line is far too complex for a fanbase that merely plays shooters.
GUNpoint_

:lol:

If you had posted that at the beginning of your arguement, I would have stopped there.

I don't merely play shooters, I've got RPGs, racing games, and strategy games. Jeez, you think their threads were dumb...

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]Well I just wanna say switching discs is no big deal. It wouldn't "disrupt the flow of the gameplay."AmyMizuno

Anywho, MGS 4 just wouldn't make sense on Xbox 360 IMO. I strongly believe it won't happen...

things like, 'MGS4 will come to the X360, only a matter of time..' and 'MGS4 has dull gameplay, it's basically just a movie, hmph!' first, i'd like to take everybody back in time to when MGS2 was released on the Xbox. not only did the game sell horribly, but the clunky Xbox controller didn't suit the series at ALL. why do you think MGS3 remained exclusive?GUNpoint_

Because of development costs.

Why do I think MGS2 sold bad on Xbox? Because the original version released on PS2 way before substance.

Also, MGS on PS1 was multi-disc, but you probably never played that one...

You must be new...Hi and welcome to System Wars. Enjoy your stay.MADVLAD123

^ This.

things like, 'MGS4 will come to the X360, only a matter of time..' and 'MGS4 has dull gameplay, it's basically just a movie, hmph!' first, i'd like to take everybody back in time to when MGS2 was released on the Xbox. not only did the game sell horribly, but the clunky Xbox controller didn't suit the series at ALL. why do you think MGS3 remained exclusive? because Kojima knew that the Xbox fanbase was into shooters, not complex stealth action games. (except for crap Splinter Cell.)

also, do you know how much data the MGS4 game disc contains? if it ever is ported for some demonic reason, it'll probably be on several discs, making the game a lot less seamless; it'll also be watered down to the fullest. Kojima knows when he's made a mistake, and porting MGS2 to the Xbox was one of them. maybe you lemmings will get extremely lucky and another dev gets permission from Kojima to port MGS4 to the xbox; as was the case with NGS & MGS:TS. but keep in mind, it WON'T be the same experience, and if that horrible event ever does take place, it'll be a long, long time from now.

and MGS4 has dull gameplay huh? any of you lemmings played it yet? No. but i've played the Beta, and the gameplay is significantly faster paced then MGS1-3. gunplay has been vastly improved, and CQC has been practically refined to perfection. and 90 minute cutscenes? that rumor has already been debunked. even so, MGS's story line is far too complex for a fanbase that merely plays shooters.
GUNpoint_

things like, 'MGS4 will come to the X360, only a matter of time..' and 'MGS4 has dull gameplay, it's basically just a movie, hmph!' first, i'd like to take everybody back in time to when MGS2 was released on the Xbox. not only did the game sell horribly, but the clunky Xbox controller didn't suit the series at ALL. why do you think MGS3 remained exclusive? because Kojima knew that the Xbox fanbase was into shooters, not complex stealth action games. (except for crap Splinter Cell.)

also, do you know how much data the MGS4 game disc contains? if it ever is ported for some demonic reason, it'll probably be on several discs, making the game a lot less seamless; it'll also be watered down to the fullest. Kojima knows when he's made a mistake, and porting MGS2 to the Xbox was one of them. maybe you lemmings will get extremely lucky and another dev gets permission from Kojima to port MGS4 to the xbox; as was the case with NGS & MGS:TS. but keep in mind, it WON'T be the same experience, and if that horrible event ever does take place, it'll be a long, long time from now.

and MGS4 has dull gameplay huh? any of you lemmings played it yet? No. but i've played the Beta, and the gameplay is significantly faster paced then MGS1-3. gunplay has been vastly improved, and CQC has been practically refined to perfection. and 90 minute cutscenes? that rumor has already been debunked. even so, MGS's story line is far too complex for a fanbase that merely plays shooters.
GUNpoint_

[QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]You must be new...Hi and welcome to System Wars. Enjoy your stay.High_Spy

^ This.

Yep. "Member since Feb 17, 2008" It's kinda cute to see this kind of blind idealism. How long 'till this one breaks?:twisted:

j/k Seriously, GUNpoint_, normally this board is filled with only the finest intellectual debates and in depth analysis. You just happen to have joined in an unprecedented period of aloofness brought on by the release of GTA IV.:D

the term "system wars" is actually taken from the japanese term for "stupid fanboys argue about dumb points"

i guess "system wars" just sounds better in the board list.

the term "system wars" is actually taken from the japanese term for "stupid fanboys argue about dumb points"

i guess "system wars" just sounds better in the board list.

PSBox3SixWi

TC, I thought you actually had something to say about the utter pointlessness of video game bickering...sigh...

MGS for PSX was dual disc was it not? :|

Also, it is quite likely that the 360 will get MGS4 in some way shape or form. Saying that Xbox owners can't play complex games is just stupid man and you know it. Look at Lost Odyssey or Oblivion. Also check out KZ2 or Resistance 2, those are mindless shooters to you right?

MGS for PSX was dual disc was it not? :|

Also, it is quite likely that the 360 will get MGS4 in some way shape or form. Saying that Xbox owners can't play complex games is just stupid man and you know it. Look at Lost Odyssey or Oblivion. Also check out KZ2 or Resistance 2, those are mindless shooters to you right?

MadExponent

Whose butt do lemmings keep pulling this out of?

[QUOTE="MadExponent"]

MGS for PSX was dual disc was it not? :|

Also, it is quite likely that the 360 will get MGS4 in some way shape or form. Saying that Xbox owners can't play complex games is just stupid man and you know it. Look at Lost Odyssey or Oblivion. Also check out KZ2 or Resistance 2, those are mindless shooters to you right?

PSBox3SixWi

Whose butt do lemmings keep pulling this out of?

[QUOTE="GUNpoint_"]things like, 'MGS4 will come to the X360, only a matter of time..' and 'MGS4 has dull gameplay, it's basically just a movie, hmph!' first, i'd like to take everybody back in time to when MGS2 was released on the Xbox. not only did the game sell horribly, but the clunky Xbox controller didn't suit the series at ALL. why do you think MGS3 remained exclusive? because Kojima knew that the Xbox fanbase was into shooters, not complex stealth action games. (except for crap Splinter Cell.)

also, do you know how much data the MGS4 game disc contains? if it ever is ported for some demonic reason, it'll probably be on several discs, making the game a lot less seamless; it'll also be watered down to the fullest. Kojima knows when he's made a mistake, and porting MGS2 to the Xbox was one of them. maybe you lemmings will get extremely lucky and another dev gets permission from Kojima to port MGS4 to the xbox; as was the case with NGS & MGS:TS. but keep in mind, it WON'T be the same experience, and if that horrible event ever does take place, it'll be a long, long time from now.

and MGS4 has dull gameplay huh? any of you lemmings played it yet? No. but i've played the Beta, and the gameplay is significantly faster paced then MGS1-3. gunplay has been vastly improved, and CQC has been practically refined to perfection. and 90 minute cutscenes? that rumor has already been debunked. even so, MGS's story line is far too complex for a fanbase that merely plays shooters.
DivergeUnify

I believe he's pointing out that the gunplay has been improved from previous versions. Not that the game is now a shooter. Just as all the previous games in the series, you can go through the entire game without killing anyone.

[QUOTE="PSBox3SixWi"][QUOTE="MadExponent"]

MGS for PSX was dual disc was it not? :|

Also, it is quite likely that the 360 will get MGS4 in some way shape or form. Saying that Xbox owners can't play complex games is just stupid man and you know it. Look at Lost Odyssey or Oblivion. Also check out KZ2 or Resistance 2, those are mindless shooters to you right?

Schnauzerz

Whose butt do lemmings keep pulling this out of?

If it does get announced for 360 every cow on here will get a fish slap from every lemming on here.

[QUOTE="Schnauzerz"][QUOTE="PSBox3SixWi"][QUOTE="MadExponent"]

MGS for PSX was dual disc was it not? :|

Also, it is quite likely that the 360 will get MGS4 in some way shape or form. Saying that Xbox owners can't play complex games is just stupid man and you know it. Look at Lost Odyssey or Oblivion. Also check out KZ2 or Resistance 2, those are mindless shooters to you right?

MadExponent

Whose butt do lemmings keep pulling this out of?

If it does get announced for 360 every cow on here will get a fish slap from every lemming on here.

But they wont care cus they'll all have beaten it about 50 times by the time its even CONSIDERED for a port.

[QUOTE="Schnauzerz"][QUOTE="PSBox3SixWi"][QUOTE="MadExponent"]

MGS for PSX was dual disc was it not? :|

Also, it is quite likely that the 360 will get MGS4 in some way shape or form. Saying that Xbox owners can't play complex games is just stupid man and you know it. Look at Lost Odyssey or Oblivion. Also check out KZ2 or Resistance 2, those are mindless shooters to you right?

MadExponent

Whose butt do lemmings keep pulling this out of?

If it does get announced for 360 every cow on here will get a fish slap from every lemming on here.

[QUOTE="MadExponent"][QUOTE="Schnauzerz"][QUOTE="PSBox3SixWi"][QUOTE="MadExponent"]

MGS for PSX was dual disc was it not? :|

Also, it is quite likely that the 360 will get MGS4 in some way shape or form. Saying that Xbox owners can't play complex games is just stupid man and you know it. Look at Lost Odyssey or Oblivion. Also check out KZ2 or Resistance 2, those are mindless shooters to you right?

AmyMizuno

Whose butt do lemmings keep pulling this out of?

If it does get announced for 360 every cow on here will get a fish slap from every lemming on here.

yep.

"MGS's story line is far too complex for a fanbase that merely plays shooters."

jeez, you MGS fanboys act as if MGS is like the god of storylines.

because Kojima knew that the Xbox fanbase was into shooters, not complex stealth action games. (except for crap Splinter Cell.)
GUNpoint_

I stopped caring about your opinion right about this sentence.

[QUOTE="ganon546"]I agree with most of what you are saying, with the exception of the disk switching part. FF7 and its successors for the original PS did this and I didnt mind at all. Its not THAT much of a hassle lol.GUNpoint_

Never bothered me with RE4.

things like, 'MGS4 will come to the X360, only a matter of time..' and 'MGS4 has dull gameplay, it's basically just a movie, hmph!' first, i'd like to take everybody back in time to when MGS2 was released on the Xbox. not only did the game sell horribly, but the clunky Xbox controller didn't suit the series at ALL. why do you think MGS3 remained exclusive? because Kojima knew that the Xbox fanbase was into shooters, not complex stealth action games. (except for crap Splinter Cell.)

also, do you know how much data the MGS4 game disc contains? if it ever is ported for some demonic reason, it'll probably be on several discs, making the game a lot less seamless; it'll also be watered down to the fullest. Kojima knows when he's made a mistake, and porting MGS2 to the Xbox was one of them. maybe you lemmings will get extremely lucky and another dev gets permission from Kojima to port MGS4 to the xbox; as was the case with NGS & MGS:TS. but keep in mind, it WON'T be the same experience, and if that horrible event ever does take place, it'll be a long, long time from now.

and MGS4 has dull gameplay huh? any of you lemmings played it yet? No. but i've played the Beta, and the gameplay is significantly faster paced then MGS1-3. gunplay has been vastly improved, and CQC has been practically refined to perfection. and 90 minute cutscenes? that rumor has already been debunked. even so, MGS's story line is far too complex for a fanbase that merely plays shooters.
GUNpoint_

i hate to tell you this, but that little crap splinter cell game is 10x better than mgs in the stealth genre.

I didnt even know at the time that MGS2 was released on the Xbox, if I did I still wouldn't have bought it. The series just isnt that good or that interesting for me to spend the money on. Not to mention the lack of or poor online. The xbox controller wasnt clunky. At least all mine definately weren't clunky.

MGS games aren't all what you believe them to be, maybe your just used to those kind of different games that most people do not seem to enjoy, especially the hardcore gamers of the 360 fanbase. Sure its a decent series, but its not like its the best stealth action game ever. Nor the most complex.

Not to mention you said it won't be the same experiance. It definately would be the same experiance. Why would it be a horrible event for more gamers to experiance the game that you hold in such a high honour? Are you so greedy that you only want it for yourself and you don't want others to play it? Thats nice.

I also dont understand how you can call splinter cell crap, that made no sense at all, because you go on to infer that stealth action games, like MGS4 are great. Saying that just makes your whole statement alot weaker. Both games are great, you should at least acknowledge that and show that you at least know what your talking about.

[QUOTE="MadExponent"][QUOTE="Schnauzerz"][QUOTE="PSBox3SixWi"][QUOTE="MadExponent"]

MGS for PSX was dual disc was it not? :|

Also, it is quite likely that the 360 will get MGS4 in some way shape or form. Saying that Xbox owners can't play complex games is just stupid man and you know it. Look at Lost Odyssey or Oblivion. Also check out KZ2 or Resistance 2, those are mindless shooters to you right?

PSBox3SixWi

Whose butt do lemmings keep pulling this out of?

If it does get announced for 360 every cow on here will get a fish slap from every lemming on here.

But they wont care cus they'll all have beaten it about 50 times by the time its even CONSIDERED for a port.

True , just like bioshock

so much fail in that post.

1- Splintercell is a way more complex game in terms of depth and stealth action.
2- MGS 2 didn't do well on the XBOX controller, the 360 controller is WAY BETTER.
3- MGS 2 came out well after the hype died down for it. DO you think Bioshock is going to do hot on the PS3...doubt it.
4- And shooters like Bioshock, Half Life 2 have deep stories.
5- The lemmings also played Mass Effect one of the best story RPGs of this gen so far.

MGS is complex and i love it. I will buy a PS3 for that game. But i prefer the 360 over the PS3......So on top of being false with all your statements you were generalizing. Good one there.

[QUOTE="PSBox3SixWi"]

the term "system wars" is actually taken from the japanese term for "stupid fanboys argue about dumb points"

i guess "system wars" just sounds better in the board list.

loftus42

xDDD!! lol

things like, 'MGS4 will come to the X360, only a matter of time..' and 'MGS4 has dull gameplay, it's basically just a movie, hmph!' first, i'd like to take everybody back in time to when MGS2 was released on the Xbox. not only did the game sell horribly, but the clunky Xbox controller didn't suit the series at ALL. why do you think MGS3 remained exclusive? because Kojima knew that the Xbox fanbase was into shooters, not complex stealth action games. (except for crap Splinter Cell.)

also, do you know how much data the MGS4 game disc contains? if it ever is ported for some demonic reason, it'll probably be on several discs, making the game a lot less seamless; it'll also be watered down to the fullest. Kojima knows when he's made a mistake, and porting MGS2 to the Xbox was one of them. maybe you lemmings will get extremely lucky and another dev gets permission from Kojima to port MGS4 to the xbox; as was the case with NGS & MGS:TS. but keep in mind, it WON'T be the same experience, and if that horrible event ever does take place, it'll be a long, long time from now.

and MGS4 has dull gameplay huh? any of you lemmings played it yet? No. but i've played the Beta, and the gameplay is significantly faster paced then MGS1-3. gunplay has been vastly improved, and CQC has been practically refined to perfection. and 90 minute cutscenes? that rumor has already been debunked. even so, MGS's story line is far too complex for a fanbase that merely plays shooters.
GUNpoint_

Contradict yourself much? You say it is stupid for lemmings to say MGS4 could come to 360, then you say it is a possibility. Yeah...

[QUOTE="GUNpoint_"]things like, 'MGS4 will come to the X360, only a matter of time..' and 'MGS4 has dull gameplay, it's basically just a movie, hmph!' first, i'd like to take everybody back in time to when MGS2 was released on the Xbox. not only did the game sell horribly, but the clunky Xbox controller didn't suit the series at ALL. why do you think MGS3 remained exclusive? because Kojima knew that the Xbox fanbase was into shooters, not complex stealth action games. (except for crap Splinter Cell.)

also, do you know how much data the MGS4 game disc contains? if it ever is ported for some demonic reason, it'll probably be on several discs, making the game a lot less seamless; it'll also be watered down to the fullest. Kojima knows when he's made a mistake, and porting MGS2 to the Xbox was one of them. maybe you lemmings will get extremely lucky and another dev gets permission from Kojima to port MGS4 to the xbox; as was the case with NGS & MGS:TS. but keep in mind, it WON'T be the same experience, and if that horrible event ever does take place, it'll be a long, long time from now.

and MGS4 has dull gameplay huh? any of you lemmings played it yet? No. but i've played the Beta, and the gameplay is significantly faster paced then MGS1-3. gunplay has been vastly improved, and CQC has been practically refined to perfection. and 90 minute cutscenes? that rumor has already been debunked. even so, MGS's story line is far too complex for a fanbase that merely plays shooters.
AvIdGaMeR444

Contradict yourself much? You say it is stupid for lemmings to say MGS4 could come to 360, then you say it is a possibility. Yeah...

I've also been reading a lot of stupid things on SW. Your post was one of them.SpinoRaptor

So is your post. How about adding something to a conversation next time?

The fact is MGS4 will NEVER come to the 360. Its sonys biggest title and they know that with all the MGS fans out there is will sell loads of consoles.

Its ps3 exclusive, and its staying that way.

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor"]I've also been reading a lot of stupid things on SW. Your post was one of them.NinjaMunkey01

So is your post. How about adding something to a conversation next time?

Oh brother. You're just trying to defend your comrade. This thread is completely stupid and ironic and that needed to be pointed out.