With 1080p and 60FPS looking to be the standard next gen, is a PC needed?

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Almost all the new games were aiming for 1080p and 60FPS, despite so many being open world and this coupled the general multiplatform nature of nextgen seems to make high end PCs a much less attractive option vs a console. With one of the major advantages of high end PC gaming gone do you think high end PC gaming is going to be even less relevant?

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#2 clyde46
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With a PC I can play above and beyond 1080p and 60FPS.
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#3 Michael0134567
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What a stupid question.

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#4 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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yes

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Don't say that.....I was thinking of upgrading to a gaming PC.
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#6 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Don't say that.....I was thinking of upgrading to a gaming PC.LJS9502_basic

You still should

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Don't say that.....I was thinking of upgrading to a gaming PC.seanmcloughlin

You still should

Yeah but I don't want to spend the mortgage on one. But I do want one that won't be outdated soon. It's tricky....
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#8 Cyberdot
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The PC can go above that. Get an expensive monitor and you'll enjoy 1440p or 1600p at 120fps or 144fps.

Even at 1080p with 60fps, the PC is still better. Textures, draw distance, anti-aliasing, anisotropic filtering, tessellation and more are going to be better on PC.

Hell, even at 720p natively, consoles still look blurry compared with what I was experiencing at 720p on my PC with my old HDTV. PC looks much sharper and clearer. I bet it's going to be the same with PS4 and Xbox One - still blurry looking games at 1080p.

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#9 gameofthering
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I want 120FPS!

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#10 mitu123
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I do 1440p and 120FPS on my PC so I would think so. Heck many console games won't do max settings even.

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#11 Wasdie  Moderator
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Why wouldn't it be needed?

It's still the primary platforms for indie titles, still has the highest profit margins of all platforms, still has the most open development platform, and is still the most powerful. 

When it comes to crunch time and PC games start really pushing what we see now while consoles hit their bottlenecks, I doubt the 1080p at 60fps will stick. 

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Almost all the new games were aiming for 1080p and 60FPS, despite so many being open world and this coupled the general multiplatform nature of nextgen seems to make high end PCs a much less attractive option vs a console. With one of the major advantages of high end PC gaming gone do you think high end PC gaming is going to be even less relevant?

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Cheaper games, better sales, mods, upgrading, use goes beyond gaming, 1080p won't be the standard forever, etc etc
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#13 GD1551
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With a PC I can play above and beyond 1080p and 60FPS. clyde46

Is there really a reason to? I've used some 1440p display setups and it didn't impress as I thought they would.

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With a PC I can play above and beyond 1080p and 60FPS. clyde46

Congrats, too bad you won't have the epic games consoles will have.

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[QUOTE="clyde46"]With a PC I can play above and beyond 1080p and 60FPS. GD1551

Is there really a reason to? I've used some 1440p display setups and it didn't impress as I thought they would.


I have a 1440p monitor, and indeed your right.

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#16 jhonMalcovich
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1080p ? LOL. It´s the past. Now it´s all about 1600p.

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#17 Cyberdot
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Also, I really don't think 60fps is gonna be standard for next-gen consoles.

Killzone: Shadow Fall is 30fps...

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#18 ProjectPat187
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you do know PC's can run 5 times the resolution of 1080p at 5 times the frames of 60 fps dont you?
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#19 GD1551
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yes

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Yes to the title or the question in the OP?

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[QUOTE="clyde46"]With a PC I can play above and beyond 1080p and 60FPS. Davekeeh


Congrats, too bad you won't have the epic games consoles will have.

Try again idiot.
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]With a PC I can play above and beyond 1080p and 60FPS. GD1551

Is there really a reason to? I've used some 1440p display setups and it didn't impress as I thought they would.

Opinions, opinions everywhere!
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]With a PC I can play above and beyond 1080p and 60FPS. Davekeeh


Congrats, too bad you won't have the epic games consoles will have.

And we will get your multiplats but with 95% more polish.

Hell, the PC is getting epic exclusives too. Don't kid yourself, boy.

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#23 mitu123
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]With a PC I can play above and beyond 1080p and 60FPS. GD1551

Is there really a reason to? I've used some 1440p display setups and it didn't impress as I thought they would.

Try a better 1440p monitor, lol, I love my Qnix, looks better than every other 1080p monitor.

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#24 IshmaelSonata
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You can't play dota on the console. 

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#25 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

yes

GD1551

Yes to the title or the question in the OP?

Title.

PCs are still used to make the bloody games and then they're ported over the the consoles later

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#26 jhonMalcovich
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]With a PC I can play above and beyond 1080p and 60FPS. Davekeeh


Congrats, too bad you won't have the epic games consoles will have.

You mean Multiplat Station 4 ? :P

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#27 clyde46
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Don't say that.....I was thinking of upgrading to a gaming PC.LJS9502_basic

You still should

Yeah but I don't want to spend the mortgage on one. But I do want one that won't be outdated soon. It's tricky....

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#28 AshFromEvilDead
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It all depends on what games you want to play really. PC is going to have exclusives that PS4 won't have. Same goes for PC, is a PS4 needed? Well that all depends on what games you want to play, some console games will never come to PC or might take too long to come to PC, MGS 5 for example or GTA 5. There were tons of multiplat games that didn't make it to PC this current gen. So stop the fanboy neckbearding threads.
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#29 AshFromEvilDead
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Now if the question were, "is a Wii U needed?" um yes, mario kart and smash bros 4 baby!
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#30 GD1551
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"]With a PC I can play above and beyond 1080p and 60FPS. clyde46

Is there really a reason to? I've used some 1440p display setups and it didn't impress as I thought they would.

Opinions, opinions everywhere!

I thought you'd give me some technical insight about it or something. Yeah it's an opinion, but there isn't much of a difference between them and 1080p offerings.

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#31 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

Is there really a reason to? I've used some 1440p display setups and it didn't impress as I thought they would.

GD1551

Opinions, opinions everywhere!

I thought you'd give me some technical insight about it or something. Yeah it's an opinion, but there isn't much of a difference between them and 1080p offerings.

There's not need for a technical knowledge lesson. If you think that 1440p isn't all that then thats a-ok. Everyone is entitled to believe what they want to believe.
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#32 Truth_Hurts_U
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Most of those dev's say 60 FPS... And I say what resolution?

If they say 1080p... I say up-scaled?

They say you got us... I say... I knew it... Damn liars.

:P

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#33 BlbecekBobecek
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Of course PC is needed. I cant make documents on a playstation, obviously.

 

For gaming though? Nope...

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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

Is there really a reason to? I've used some 1440p display setups and it didn't impress as I thought they would.

GD1551

Opinions, opinions everywhere!

I thought you'd give me some technical insight about it or something. Yeah it's an opinion, but there isn't much of a difference between them and 1080p offerings.

Simple numbers are enough technical details to get into proving that 1440p is superior to 1080p for sheer clarity alone. But if you can't see it then it's your opinion and we can't exactly change that by talking about it

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#35 jun_aka_pekto
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Flight sim is my preferred genre. So....... Yeah. Of course a PC is still needed. My next preferred genre is FPS. I prefer to play that genre with mouse and keyboard. Until console developers add native mouse and keyboard support, I'll still play most of the genre on the PC.

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#36 Douevenlift_bro
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X1 is weak as sh1t. So I'd have PS4/PC if I wanted a console along w PC

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#37 themagicbum9720
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took consoles long enough to be able to do 1080p at 60 fps.
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maybe if the only reason to play pc games is for better graphics but that's not the case.

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#39 ProjectPat187
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]With a PC I can play above and beyond 1080p and 60FPS. Davekeeh


Congrats, too bad you won't have the epic games consoles will have.

I will because I will have both X box One and the PS4 and my gaming PC that is more powerful than both consoles, why? cuz I can and cuz I got it like that. and and make sure the cookie is oatmeal raisin.
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PC & PS4 are needed. MS needs to die. 

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Almost all the new games were aiming for 1080p and 60FPS, despite so many being open world and this coupled the general multiplatform nature of nextgen seems to make high end PCs a much less attractive option vs a console. With one of the major advantages of high end PC gaming gone do you think high end PC gaming is going to be even less relevant?

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EVERY SINGLE TIME a new console launches, people ask "why game on PC?" I will leave it at that.

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[QUOTE="clyde46"]With a PC I can play above and beyond 1080p and 60FPS. Davekeeh


Congrats, too bad you won't have the epic games consoles will have.

and vice versa. that's why they're called exclusives.

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#43 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Almost all the new games were aiming for 1080p and 60FPS, despite so many being open world and this coupled the general multiplatform nature of nextgen seems to make high end PCs a much less attractive option vs a console. With one of the major advantages of high end PC gaming gone do you think high end PC gaming is going to be even less relevant?

RossRichard

EVERY SINGLE TIME a new console launches, people ask "why game on PC?" I will leave it at that.

And then all the console promises fade or don't happen

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#44 gta50419
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Consoles always had better games then pc soo no.

Nerds won't let pc gaming die tho

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#45 ducati101
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I believe it is, been on 1600p for over a year now. What I find funny is, last gen difference between 720p and 1080p apparently was minor (although it's more than 2x the rez). Now next gen consoles get 1080p as standard and it's a big thing apparently. Now the difference between 1080p and higher is minor apparently, wtf?
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It's hard to justify buying a new souped up gaming PC when a brand new generation of consoles is just about to start that are only $400 yet capable of doing things that $1000+ PCs do, AND they will have loads of high-budget exclusive games that the PC will never sniff. On top of that people commonly seem to forget that the PC has most of the same downfalls that the Xbox One has with the DRM, not truly "owning" the games that you buy, not being able to let your friends borrow them, etc. Honestly the only reason to buy a new beastly gaming PC right now would be if you're the type of horrific person who enjoys indulging in piracy. ;) I would wait until these next gen consoles are at least 4 or so years and starting to show some age before blowing money on a new gaming rig.
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#47 mitu123
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[QUOTE="RossRichard"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Almost all the new games were aiming for 1080p and 60FPS, despite so many being open world and this coupled the general multiplatform nature of nextgen seems to make high end PCs a much less attractive option vs a console. With one of the major advantages of high end PC gaming gone do you think high end PC gaming is going to be even less relevant?

seanmcloughlin

EVERY SINGLE TIME a new console launches, people ask "why game on PC?" I will leave it at that.

And then all the console promises fade or don't happen

Also later in the gen when consoles try to push graphics, they'll likely sacrifice FPS before resolution and everything else, lol.
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As long as there's more money to be made than the cost of releasing a PC version, it'll stay relevant. It's not a question of whether a platform has advantages, but merely one of cold, hard cash.
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As long as there's more money to be made than the cost of releasing a PC version, it'll stay relevant. It's not a question of whether a platform has advantages, but merely one of cold, hard cash.lowe0
Pretty much this.
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#50 CaseyWegner
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Consoles always had better games then pc soo no.

Nerds won't let pc gaming die tho

gta50419

it had more high scoring exclusives than all three consoles combined last gen.