Will You Buy the new Xbox 360 Jasper?

When Microsoft redesigned the Xbox 360 motherboards with 65-nanometer chips to cut manufacturing costs they called it Falcon. Failure rates are down, but the problem isn't completely solved. When they do it again next year they'll call it Jasper.

That's the super secret news being broken by the Mercury News. For Microsoft, however, it is being seen as a cost-cutting measure and a way to address heat issues caused by the current graphics chip, said Mercury News tech blogger Dean Takahashi.

"Jasper is the code name for the next motherboard for the Xbox 360. It will be coming in August, in time for the holiday season. Jasper is going to have a 65-nanometer graphics chip from ATI Technologies, as well as smaller memory chips. That isn't much information, but it's enough to tell us about their cost-reduction plan and their solution to the 16-30% of Xbox 360 consoles that need to be sent in for repairs.

With the wild success of Nintendo's Wii currently dominating headlines, Takahashi said Jasper's release date should be moved up from August to an earlier date if possible. If you'll remember, Falcon's arrival coincided with a $50 Xbox 360 price cut. Microsoft declined comment other than to say it is always updating the components of the Xbox 360 but never comments on them directly.

We all know the reason why the Xbox 360s overheat is the excessive amount of heat created by the GPU, which causes the motherboard below it to warp and the chip itself to pop itself off the motherboard. The new jasper motherboard will clearly address that issue and finish what the falcon model started in bringing the 360 back to an average failure rate of 2-3%.

when it comes out, i'll wrap my 360 in tinfoil and play oblivion, then get it on the bestbuy replacementAwinagainov

Why purposely break your system so your next system won't break? Doesn't make sense, usually you do that a week before your warrantys up...

How many motherboards are gonna get made until MS stops trying? This is ridiculous.dream431ca

At least they are doing something now. This will surely show them not to mess up the next Xbox. I hope Bill Gates is watching closely.

It will take a really low failure rate to convence the PS3 owners to flip to 360. If this can do it, well thats bad news for PS3 fanboys since they'll have pretty much no excuses for owning a PS3.

It will take a really low failure rate to convence the PS3 owners to flip to 360. If this can do it, well thats bad news for PS3 fanboys since they'll have pretty much no excuses for owning a PS3.

What!?

NFS102

It will take a really low failure rate to convence the PS3 owners to flip to 360. If this can do it, well thats bad news for PS3 fanboys since they'll have pretty much no excuses for owning a PS3.

NFS102

They don't have to get PS3 owners to flip to 360. They need to convince people who have not yet purchases a current gen console to get the 360.

[QUOTE="Awinagainov"]when it comes out, i'll wrap my 360 in tinfoil and play oblivion, then get it on the bestbuy replacementshadow8585

Why purposely break your system so your next system won't break? Doesn't make sense, usually you do that a week before your warrantys up...

You wouldn't be saying what?!? if you already owned an xbox 360... Its so much more fun than ps3 that you need an excuse in my book and nfs102's as well to own one...

the GPU is the problemf50p90

Which is apparently getting a die shrink with this MB revision (lower power, lower heat).

Anyone know if they will change the outer body or will it still look the same.

Anyone know if they will change the outer body or will it still look the same.

player_leo

Not necessary, you can't tell me neither of these look sexy

A lot of ps3 owners are people who settled for less because of the 360 rrod issue. Now that its fix is around the corner, they will be selling consoles to a decent number of unsatisfied ps3 owners looking for more in their next gen gaming console and many casuals who waited to upgrade on next gen. With Gears of War 2 releasing a few months after the fixed xbox 360 and a likely price cut, sales will be very good for xbox 360 this holiday seasonshadow8585

settled for less??? did wii owners settle for less also. look rrod is small factor in why i don't own 360. the games don't appeal to me. lo seems cool but thats about it. shooters aren't my style plus i don't like my wallet getting raped by ms. 50 dollars for online. no thanks i can get it free on the ps3. ms will get the few who waited for a fixed 360 but as for stealing fanbase not going to happen. the majority who wanted a 360 already have one. plus the time to get a 360 was when halo was launched.

A lot of ps3 owners are people who settled for less because of the 360 rrod issue. Now that its fix is around the corner, they will be selling consoles to a decent number of unsatisfied ps3 owners looking for more in their next gen gaming console and many casuals who waited to upgrade on next gen. With Gears of War 2 releasing a few months after the fixed xbox 360 and a likely price cut, sales will be very good for xbox 360 this holiday seasonshadow8585

Man, you're 100% fanboy. No need to listen to you anymore...

[QUOTE="shadow8585"]A lot of ps3 owners are people who settled for less because of the 360 rrod issue. Now that its fix is around the corner, they will be selling consoles to a decent number of unsatisfied ps3 owners looking for more in their next gen gaming console and many casuals who waited to upgrade on next gen. With Gears of War 2 releasing a few months after the fixed xbox 360 and a likely price cut, sales will be very good for xbox 360 this holiday seasonjessie5788

settled for less??? did wii owners settle for less also. look rrod is small factor in why i don't own 360. the games don't appeal to me. lo seems cool but thats about it. shooters aren't my style plus i don't like my wallet getting raped by ms. 50 dollars for online. no thanks i can get it free on the ps3. ms will get the few who waited for a fixed 360 but as for stealing fanbase not going to happen. the majority who wanted a 360 already have one. plus the time to get a 360 was when halo was launched.

I agree with you on that, also why pay an astronomical price for add-on hard ware for something that is sold by just about every hardware manufacturer for half or less of what M$ is chargeing for the same thing. With the PS3 we can buy any 2.5 SATA HDD and it will work just fine in the console. Where M$ charges on outragious price for there much smaller HDD.

Zephyr, Falcon, Jasper.....I can't keep this stuff straight anymore. What has what and what supposedly fixes what problem. MikeE21286

Cows are under the impression that all 360s break and don't understand most of us don't have this problem. Basically some peoples 360s overheat (the people who dont keep their consoles well ventilated and plug them into crowded surge protectors) and they then have to use microsofts free warranty to fix it, but with this new console they wont have to

[QUOTE="player_leo"]

Anyone know if they will change the outer body or will it still look the same.

shadow8585

Not necessary, you can't tell me neither of these look sexy

Why does you game system need to look sexy? :shock:

[QUOTE="shadow8585"][QUOTE="player_leo"]

Anyone know if they will change the outer body or will it still look the same.

Mythbuster4ever

Not necessary, you can't tell me neither of these look sexy

Why does you game system need to look sexy? :shock:

Why does the guy in your avatar resemble a deviant?

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Zephyr, Falcon, Jasper.....I can't keep this stuff straight anymore. What has what and what supposedly fixes what problem. shadow8585

Cows are under the impression that all 360s break and don't understand most of us don't have this problem. Basically some peoples 360s overheat (the people who dont keep their consoles well ventilated and plug them into crowded surge protectors) and they then have to use microsofts free warranty to fix it, but with this new console they wont have to

The point is RRODs are THE PROBLEM. It's inevitable. Like some unbiased poster here said, I forgot his name (RPG something)......No matter how much you've taken care of your 360....you're bound to get an RROD, regardless if you tried vacuuming the dusts from the air vents or placing your 360 in a cool dry place in your entertainment center.

RRODs should NOT HAVE BEEN the problem in the first place. Lets be real here, MS messed up (although not severely) in the launch process and DESPERATELY rushed out the 360s waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too early.

As in 4 years too early.

How many motherboards are gonna get made until MS stops trying? This is ridiculous.dream431ca

so they shouldn't try to fix the problem?

I can't believe the TC/360 fanboy tried to blame the RROD on the consumer.

The problem is a result of a badly-designed system. It's not only the graphics chip, the cooling fans are badly placed and the disc drive isn't well-designed. That's why some 360's will scratch discs.

Enjoy your 360, but don't try to blame the RROD on the victims.

Also, the 360 is not sexy in any color.

I don't think many consumers will actually know they're buying one with the new chip unless something else is added; or they pry it open.DementedDragon

They'll have a different model/SKU number.

Which the average person won't check anyway.

If this fixes the RRoD issue, then the 360 only has one thing holding me back from getting it. No games. All the games it has that I wanted, I either got on my PS3 or my PC. The only game it has coming that I want and can't get anywhere else is Ninja Gaiden 2. But I am not buying a system for one game, hell I won't do it for anything less that 5 good games. So I will have to wait and see.l-_-l

Banjo Threeie?

Lost Odyssey?

Infinite Undiscovery?

Crackdown?

But I'll guess you're not a fan of JRPGs.

How many motherboards are gonna get made until MS stops trying? This is ridiculous.dream431ca

All companies do this. It's how consoles become cheaper to manufacture and easier to produce. Consoles become more efficient each year. I guarantee the PS3 and Wii have had or will so have changes in chip sizes.

What in the WORLD makes people think this new Chip size will fix the RROD. MS has never even confirmed WHAT causes the RROD. The truth is the change in size has NOTHING to do with the RROD and instead is just a cheaper way to make 360s. Developers have been doing this for years.

I love how MS fanboys pretend that RROD isnt a problem and everyone who mentions is a fanboy yet they love to hold tight to their three year warranty. People forget it was all those "fakeboys" complaining about thier XBox 360 getting RROD that got them their precious three year warranty.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]How many motherboards are gonna get made until MS stops trying? This is ridiculous.Sparky04

All companies do this. It's how consoles become cheaper to manufacture and easier to produce. Consoles become more efficient each year. I guarantee the PS3 and Wii have had or will so have changes in chip sizes.

Yes but what makes MS fans think this chip will fix the RROD and not just make the 360 cheaper to make.

What in the WORLD makes people think this new Chip size will fix the RROD. MS has never even confirmed WHAT causes the RROD. The truth is the change in size has NOTHING to do with the RROD and instead is just a cheaper way to make 360s. Developers have been doing this for years.

I love how MS fanboys pretend that RROD isnt a problem and everyone who mentions is a fanboy yet they love to hold tight to their three year warranty. People forget it was all those "fakeboys" complaining about thier XBox 360 getting RROD that got them their precious three year warranty.

Javy03

The RROD most likely comes from a design flaw. To say a smaller more efficient mother board or a smaller proccessor that makes less heat won't help the problem isn't the wisest decision. I don't think it will get rid of it but it will help.

What in the WORLD makes people think this new Chip size will fix the RROD. MS has never even confirmed WHAT causes the RROD. The truth is the change in size has NOTHING to do with the RROD and instead is just a cheaper way to make 360s. Developers have been doing this for years.

I love how MS fanboys pretend that RROD isnt a problem and everyone who mentions is a fanboy yet they love to hold tight to their three year warranty. People forget it was all those "fakeboys" complaining about thier XBox 360 getting RROD that got them their precious three year warranty.

Javy03

That, and the fact that November is when all those warranties, for the people who bought the Xbox 360 near launch, end.................

I can't believe the TC/360 fanboy tried to blame the RROD on the consumer.

The problem is a result of a badly-designed system. It's not only the graphics chip, the cooling fans are badly placed and the disc drive isn't well-designed. That's why some 360's will scratch discs.

Enjoy your 360, but don't try to blame the RROD on the victims.

Also, the 360 is not sexy in any color.

Tragic_Kingdom7

i've never got a rrod, no one i know who owns a 360 has got a rrod. it is partially the consumers fault (although there is a design flaw). most rrod's could be prevented if the owner keeps the 360 in an open space, properly ventilated.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]How many motherboards are gonna get made until MS stops trying? This is ridiculous.Sparky04

All companies do this. It's how consoles become cheaper to manufacture and easier to produce. Consoles become more efficient each year. I guarantee the PS3 and Wii have had or will so have changes in chip sizes.

M$ already has their next console planned, you need to believe that. and i dont have a link, because i heard that on my local news channel, months ago, talking about how the noew console will have hddvd build in and use it for games (this was before the format war ended obviously), and how it was going to compete against the ps3, while completely abandoning the 360. IMO, the ps3 will be around for the next 10 years, but very soon, like 2 years from now, M$ will make another console, and after that we will see a rise of consoles being made. this generation will be around for a long time, as not much graphical improvments can be made. my predictionarmymen4

and sony has their next console planned and so does microsoft. all three companies have been working on new consoles since their latest ones released.

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

I can't believe the TC/360 fanboy tried to blame the RROD on the consumer.

The problem is a result of a badly-designed system. It's not only the graphics chip, the cooling fans are badly placed and the disc drive isn't well-designed. That's why some 360's will scratch discs.

Enjoy your 360, but don't try to blame the RROD on the victims.

Also, the 360 is not sexy in any color.

shoeman12

i've never got a rrod, no one i know who owns a 360 has got a rrod. it is partially the consumers fault (although there is a design flaw). most rrod's could be prevented if the owner keeps the 360 in an open space, properly ventilated.

same here me and my freinds had our 360's since launch with no problems