Will Titanfall 2 be the flop of the Year?

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#1  Edited By loe12k
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My impressions 6/10 after trying the Beta.

Its similar to Call of Duty Advanced warfare and for me thats a boring game.

Played some matches and i rarely saw Titans having one on one fights? Thats not Titanfall? And oh man the servers are awful . Respawn and EA must be panicking right now?

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Already gone to No Man's Sky.

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#3  Edited By kvally
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Nothing will flop as hard as No Man's Sky this year. That said, based on the Pre-Alpha of Titanfall 2, it is looking to be better than the original Titanfall, including a full campaign as well. It should score better than the original, making it a AAAE.

Servers were awesome, and the one on one titan fights are great in the pre-alpha. 9/10 so far.

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@svaubel said:

Already gone to No Man's Sky.

Titanfall 2 is a bigger game an AAA it will be the biggest flop of the year if releases like this? Granted it still only a beta and not out yet, but the game needs to be delayed, or changed a lot for it to be a success i believe.

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It played pretty well. I think the big problem is that people are writing it off since it doesn't have the exact feel the original Titanfall had. TF2 is noticeably slower. If you managed to play past the first day, titan drops were plenty and the two titans were very unique. Gun variety is still awful but its also alpha. The complaint about the servers is odd considering it was an open technical test aka stress test on servers. This is the perfect time for servers to be "awful" instead of during the actual launch in October.

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There's really not that much hype for it. I'd say there were bigger flops this year like NMS and QB.

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It definitely won't be a flop of the year but releasing it in the time window of Battlefield 1 and Cod and Gears about a month earlier is sending the game out to die. It should be an August or September release or at the very least a early next year, not a holiday release.

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@kvally said:

Nothing will flop as hard as No Man's Sky this year. That said, based on the Pre-Alpha of Titanfall 2, it is looking to be better than the original Titanfall, including a full campaign as well. It should score better than the original, making it a AAAE.

Servers were awesome, and the one on one titan fights are great in the pre-alpha. 9/10 so far.

You think this is better then Titanfall 1? Man i must be paying a different game. I had 15 ping from a server and the lag was unbearable Characters were stuttering on the screen?

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@svaubel said:

Already gone to No Man's Sky.

Second post and thread right there. lol :P

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If you are already feeling its failures from beta, then it has NOTHING against the fiasco pulled by NMS and the blind people who supported it and deservedly got shafted big time.

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I could be up there. The community response to the technical test has been overwhelmingly negative. They basically changed everything that made the first game special

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titanfall 2 looked worse than call of duty never played such a bland generic game bout to uninstall the beta or whatever it was

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The first one was good but felt like a demo. I hope this has a little more content to justify paying for it.

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No Man's Sky

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@mems_1224 said:

I could be up there. The community response to the technical test has been overwhelmingly negative. They basically changed everything that made the first game special

Titans take way too long to appear. If you like Cod you probably like this game. I liked Titanfall 1 because the mech battles were awesome, this game does not have that enough.

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@CRUSHER88 said:

It played pretty well. I think the big problem is that people are writing it off since it doesn't have the exact feel the original Titanfall had. TF2 is noticeably slower. If you managed to play past the first day, titan drops were plenty and the two titans were very unique. Gun variety is still awful but its also alpha. The complaint about the servers is oddconsidering it was an open technical test aka stress test on servers. This is the perfect time for servers to be "awful" instead of during the actual launch in October.

Well some people just don't understand things :)

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@loe12k said:

My impressions 6/10 after trying the Beta.

Its similar to Call of Duty Advanced warfare and for me thats a boring game.

Played some matches and i rarely saw Titans having one on one fights? Thats not Titanfall? And oh man the servers are awful . Respawn and EA must be panicking right now?

1 - You do know that COD AW kinda copied the 1st Titanfall, right?

2 - You do know you were playing a "beta," right?

3 - You didn't see enough 1 on 1 Titan fights, and that's the games fault?

4 - You do know the point of the "beta" was to stress the servers, right? Better now than launch.

5 - Why would Respawn and EA be panicking?

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No Man's sky has that title all wrapped up.

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The Server complaint is a real issue people forget Titanfall 1 ran smooth as butter on xbox one. Why would it suddenly be shit when they're using unique servers for xbox? Azure is just better.

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@mems_1224 said:

I could be up there. The community response to the technical test has been overwhelmingly negative. They basically changed everything that made the first game special

When was the last time the community response was positive?

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@GoldenElementXL said:
@loe12k said:

My impressions 6/10 after trying the Beta.

Its similar to Call of Duty Advanced warfare and for me thats a boring game.

Played some matches and i rarely saw Titans having one on one fights? Thats not Titanfall? And oh man the servers are awful . Respawn and EA must be panicking right now?

1 - You do know that COD AW kinda copied the 1st Titanfall, right?

2 - You do know you were playing a "beta," right?

3 - You didn't see enough 1 on 1 Titan fights, and that's the games fault?

4 - You do know the point of the "beta" was to stress the servers, right? Better now than launch.

5 - Why would Respawn and EA be panicking?

BECAUSE the maps look worse than call of duty ones!

THey have less details all over the maps, the gameplay didn't have a rugged feel to it that call of duty has, i felt like im floating around.

I would be worried because they are going up against call of duty and the destiny expansion and battlefield 1 and the game didn't feel great or look great compared to the competition.

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#22  Edited By CRUSHER88
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@loe12k said:

The Server complaint is a real issue people forget Titanfall 1 ran smooth as butter on xbox one. Why would it suddenly be shit when they're using unique servers for xbox? Azure is just better.

It's the alpha over a three day period. Its the perfect opportunity to stress test the servers and they did. The networks hardly worked on day one and the game was a bit of a mess. By day three, things were running smoothly. Hopefully the second test this weekend uses the previous tests results and improves on them.

@ProtossRushX I think the Titanfall maps are a little bigger and have a bit more going on than COD. However, I admit that the two maps in the alpha were not very enjoyable. Hopefully the other maps are better.

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@GoldenElementXL said:
@loe12k said:

My impressions 6/10 after trying the Beta.

Its similar to Call of Duty Advanced warfare and for me thats a boring game.

Played some matches and i rarely saw Titans having one on one fights? Thats not Titanfall? And oh man the servers are awful . Respawn and EA must be panicking right now?

1 - You do know that COD AW kinda copied the 1st Titanfall, right?

2 - You do know you were playing a "beta," right?

3 - You didn't see enough 1 on 1 Titan fights, and that's the games fault?

4 - You do know the point of the "beta" was to stress the servers, right? Better now than launch.

5 - Why would Respawn and EA be panicking?

1 so what?

2 They're are launching the game in just two months time!

3 The game is Titanfall not Call of Duty. Titanfall 1 is a superior game.

4 Titanfall 1 ran smooth as butter on xbox one.

5 Its not as good as TF1 and the response to the beta ( negative)

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@ProtossRushX said:

I would be worried because they are going up against call of duty and the destiny expansion and battlefield 1 and the game didn't feel great or look great compared to the competition.

And yet in this PRE_ALPHA, many feel the game DOES feel great and look great and is JUST like Titanfall 1 but with many improvements and changes for the better. On average, people are still getting 2 mechs per game, but they are earning them (as they should) instead of them appearing randomly based on time. The use of the grappling hook makes the game feel even faster paced. The wall running, the jumping, the jetpacks, the sliding all feel familiar to TF1. It's a continuation of the first with improvements, as well as a campaign. Even Respawn posted they got a ton of great feedback from this PRE-ALPHA and are making improvement from it and changes based on user feedback as well as things behind the scenes that gamer didn't even notice last weekend.

If we thought TF1 was awesome, this is going to be even better.

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The problem is, October is jam pack with lots of heavyweight games like Gears of War 4, The Last Guardian, Battlefield 1, and Infinite Warfare are gonna hurt Titanfall 2 sales and Titanfall 2 should've been out somewhere in September, not October.

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@kvally said:
@ProtossRushX said:

I would be worried because they are going up against call of duty and the destiny expansion and battlefield 1 and the game didn't feel great or look great compared to the competition.

And yet in this PRE_ALPHA, many feel the game DOES feel great and look great and is JUST like Titanfall 1 but with many improvements and changes for the better. On average, people are still getting 2 mechs per game, but they are earning them (as they should) instead of them appearing randomly based on time. The use of the grappling hook makes the game feel even faster paced. The wall running, the jumping, the jetpacks, the sliding all feel familiar to TF1. It's a continuation of the first with improvements, as well as a campaign. Even Respawn posted they got a ton of great feedback from this PRE-ALPHA and are making improvement from it and changes based on user feedback as well as things behind the scenes that gamer didn't even notice last weekend.

If we thought TF1 was awesome, this is going to be even better.

I think its a step backwards, but if you feel that way good for you. I decided to skip this game Battlefield 1 and Gears 4 are my only shooters this year.

BF1 beta next week just hope that game is good.

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#27  Edited By kvally
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@loe12k said:
@kvally said:
@ProtossRushX said:

I would be worried because they are going up against call of duty and the destiny expansion and battlefield 1 and the game didn't feel great or look great compared to the competition.

And yet in this PRE_ALPHA, many feel the game DOES feel great and look great and is JUST like Titanfall 1 but with many improvements and changes for the better. On average, people are still getting 2 mechs per game, but they are earning them (as they should) instead of them appearing randomly based on time. The use of the grappling hook makes the game feel even faster paced. The wall running, the jumping, the jetpacks, the sliding all feel familiar to TF1. It's a continuation of the first with improvements, as well as a campaign. Even Respawn posted they got a ton of great feedback from this PRE-ALPHA and are making improvement from it and changes based on user feedback as well as things behind the scenes that gamer didn't even notice last weekend.

If we thought TF1 was awesome, this is going to be even better.

I think its a step backwards, but if you feel that way good for you. I decided to skip this game Battlefield 1 and Gears 4 are my only shooters this year.

BF1 beta next week just hope that game is good.

For shooters this holiday, I am getting Titanfall 2, Battlefield 1, Gears of War 4, Call of Duty Infinite Warfare, all on day one.

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I think the gaming community at large has already voted No Man's Sky as the flop of the year.

I still think it's way too early to judge Titanfall 2. People are complaining about some things like it's the actual final release. For example, servers of all things. We had a "technical test" or if you want to be cynical, a beta. Either way, I think one of the things they were looking to improve and be ready for launch day were the servers. In addition to this, I'm sure there will be gameplay tweaks implemented prior to launch based on the feedback.

Also, I take the server complaint from your average gamer with a grain of salt. I put in about a solid 24 hours in TF2 test and I didn't have any such stuttering or extreme lag as some of you have noticed. I'm not sure what the issue is but I'm sure they'll address it before launch either way.

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I feel like no matter what comes next, No Man Sky's will have the trophy of the flop ... people had over-the-top expectation for this game.

I waited for the review and I enjoy it, people who really find it boring are people that just won't like playing RPG, you know games where you need to grind

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@loe12k said:
@GoldenElementXL said:

1 - You do know that COD AW kinda copied the 1st Titanfall, right?

2 - You do know you were playing a "beta," right?

3 - You didn't see enough 1 on 1 Titan fights, and that's the games fault?

4 - You do know the point of the "beta" was to stress the servers, right? Better now than launch.

5 - Why would Respawn and EA be panicking?

1 so what?

2 They're are launching the game in just two months time!

3 The game is Titanfall not Call of Duty. Titanfall 1 is a superior game.

4 Titanfall 1 ran smooth as butter on xbox one.

5 Its not as good as TF1 and the response to the beta ( negative)

Titanfall 1 ran smooth as butter on Xbox One?



















I have over 5 days of playtime on Xbox One. That game is not smooth... Good one!

Why don't we compare 2 complete games before crowning one better than the other? I know internet hyperbole is fun, but lets go into this one with an open mind.

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@ProtossRushX said:
@GoldenElementXL said:

1 - You do know that COD AW kinda copied the 1st Titanfall, right?

2 - You do know you were playing a "beta," right?

3 - You didn't see enough 1 on 1 Titan fights, and that's the games fault?

4 - You do know the point of the "beta" was to stress the servers, right? Better now than launch.

5 - Why would Respawn and EA be panicking?

BECAUSE the maps look worse than call of duty ones!

THey have less details all over the maps, the gameplay didn't have a rugged feel to it that call of duty has, i felt like im floating around.

I would be worried because they are going up against call of duty and the destiny expansion and battlefield 1 and the game didn't feel great or look great compared to the competition.

So EA should be worried because YOU think the maps look worse than COD maps and YOU feel like you're floating around? You, like most of the community, must think pretty highly of yourself. I think Respawn and EA are doing just fine...

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#32 kvally
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I have to agree with loe12k on one thing and that is that it does run smooth as butter on the Xbox One (Titanfall 1). My experience with Titanfall 2 on the Xbox One is that it runs smooth as butter as well.

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@GoldenElementXL said:
@mems_1224 said:

I could be up there. The community response to the technical test has been overwhelmingly negative. They basically changed everything that made the first game special

When was the last time the community response was positive?

Depends on the types of criticisms. For games like Overwatch and Rainbow Six the community is generally happy with those games and mostly complain about balance changes. The Titanfall reddit is filled with nothing but people being disappointed that the game has serious flaws on a fundamental level. Like how this time Respawn has focused on making every map more open and made up of 3 lanes to funnel the action like COD games. Like how Attrition has been replaced by the horrible bounty mode and that seems to be the only mode with bots which are neutral. It feels like a game designed for people who didn't like the first game.

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@kvally said:

I have to agree with loe12k on one thing and that is that it does run smooth as butter on the Xbox One (Titanfall 1). My experience with Titanfall 2 on the Xbox One is that it runs smooth as butter as well.

Are we talking framerate or network performance?

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@GoldenElementXL said:
@kvally said:

I have to agree with loe12k on one thing and that is that it does run smooth as butter on the Xbox One (Titanfall 1). My experience with Titanfall 2 on the Xbox One is that it runs smooth as butter as well.

Are we talking framerate or network performance?

Network performance.

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Everyone will agree that No Man's Sky easily takes that award.

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@loe12k: I liked the first. It's action is a bit too fast paced and i grow tired very quickly, but i had a lot of fun. I'm still looking forward to 2, but not at full price.

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#38  Edited By FLOPPAGE_50
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First titanfall ran great on the xbone, you tripping golden.

Also, no mans flop is flop of the year, nice try cows

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This video will show you exactly what i was experiencing on Saturday. Just watch the movements and characters on screen. Lag is worse when you playing.

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Looks like your Xbox or your network has issues. Mine was like silk.

@loe12k said:
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This video will show you exactly what i was experiencing on Saturday. Just watch the movements and characters on screen. Lag is worse when you playing.

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@kvally said:

Looks like your Xbox or your network has issues. Mine was like silk.

@loe12k said:

This video will show you exactly what i was experiencing on Saturday. Just watch the movements and characters on screen. Lag is worse when you playing.

Which is exactly why this "beta" is being run. This will make the actual launch performance better! You can't compare this "beta" (I keep quoting it because, lets be real, it's not an actual beta. It's a stress test) to a finished product. That being said, I didn't experience anything like that video. That is pretty bad!

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@kvally said:

Looks like your Xbox or your network has issues. Mine was like silk.

@loe12k said:
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This video will show you exactly what i was experiencing on Saturday. Just watch the movements and characters on screen. Lag is worse when you playing.

Doubt that i have 9 ping thats very low latency. And i was getting 15 ping to the nearest server to me.

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@GoldenElementXL said:
@kvally said:

Looks like your Xbox or your network has issues. Mine was like silk.

@loe12k said:

This video will show you exactly what i was experiencing on Saturday. Just watch the movements and characters on screen. Lag is worse when you playing.

Which is exactly why this "beta" is being run. This will make the actual launch performance better! You can't compare this "beta" (I keep quoting it because, lets be real, it's not an actual beta. It's a stress test) to a finished product. That being said, I didn't experience anything like that video. That is pretty bad!

You find plenty of videos like this one on Youtube i just picked one to highlight the issues i had.

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#44  Edited By NFJSupreme
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The game still looks like a call of duty mod

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#45  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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Who wanted Titanfall to play more like COD ? EA ?

I'm not buying it at launch for sure, maybe down the line, but as of right now it doesn't look good.

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Lets hope so, we need less COD and not more.

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#47 Cloud_imperium
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No Man's Sky won't be topped anytime soon.

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#48 xxyetixx
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Um unless I missed something this "stress test" had 2 game types that I could play. One being 8v8 pilots only with no Titans, and the other being some type of horde mode I had zero interest in and didn't play. So where exactly did you expect to see 1v1 Titan battles while playing?

The game played decent, few complaints like it is slower than Titanfall 1, the grapple pilots grappling hook felt like it was too slow as well I wanted it to really pull you in quickly to things but that is my personal opinon. I was surprised there were so many people sniping in the 8v8 pilot game mode. Over all the game is def worth keeping an eye on and seeing what the full release has to offer.

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#49 gago-gago
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Naw it'll get an 8.

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#50 NathanDrakeSwag
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Quantum Break is the biggest flop this year. Titanfall 2 can't flop because it literally has no hype.