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#1 fuzzyking
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look at the lineup for the wii. i'm not talking about first party, i'm talking third party!

maybe its just me but they have abandoned all hardcore mature games. Madworld, No More Heroes, The Conduit, and what else!?

The online is horrible and the hardware is generations behind the PS3 and 360.

Sure it gets the casual audience in, but does nintendo have lose all the hardcore for this!? HAVE YOU SEEN EXCITEBOTS....it looks so pathetic.... CARNIVAL GAMES?

Until i see something worth on the wii like Metroid Prime 3 and a A BETTER ZELDA GAME like OOT, and those are first party, which leads me back to

my first point, not many good 3rd party hardcore games. and when 3rd party developpers make games, they don't even try hard. PS2 games destroy the wii's in expirence

I can see why Sheep hate me right now, but from my expirence, it was hell. which i why i have a ps3 now, which was the best gaming decision in my life, though an 360 would also been a good choice.

Curse you wii. you made me suffer

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#2 habkeinbock
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thead number 23845

next pls

oh before i forget that. HD gaming already destroyed 3 developer ! BEAT THAT :lol:

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#3 Squall18
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Wii is better than most people make it out to be. HOWEVER, it's the other way around too :(

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#4 fuzzyking
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also, HD MADE....

Killzone 2

Halo 3

Gears of War

Uncharted

MGS4

must i name more....

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#5 FirstDiscovery
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Once upon a time, PSone and PS2 sold loads, and so they sold loads of hardware Then came Wii and made people forget about real gaming consoles, now real gaming consoles such as PS3 dont sell software THE END
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#6 GwannaSauna
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Once upon a time, PSone and PS2 sold loads, and so they sold loads of hardware Then came Wii and made people forget about real gaming consoles, now real gaming consoles such as PS3 dont sell software THE ENDFirstDiscovery

Because casual gamers and everyone who wasn't a hardcore gamer thought it looked great :roll:

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#7 ActicEdge
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Yep, the wii is killing gaming. It also killed my parents and my childhood and I'll never get any of that back again. Damn it, stupid wii. ARRRRRRHHHHHHH

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also, HD MADE....

Killzone 2

Halo 3

Gears of War

Uncharted

MGS4

must i name more....

fuzzyking

So what you're saying is none of those games would be worth playing if they weren't hi rez 16:9?

That's quite an insult, willing to back it up?

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#9 deactivated-5a84f3399aa1c
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The Wii is doing more to expand the gaming audience than anything else at the moment. Who cares if they aren't "teh hardcorez", more and more people are gaming. The Wii being successful isn't going to kill the hardcore market by any stretch of the imagination.
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#10 magiciandude
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Funny you say that considering Facter 5 and Free Radical closed down after making a game for the PS3.

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#11 FirstDiscovery
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Funny you say that considering Facter 5 and Free Radical closed down after making a game for the PS3.

magiciandude
Crappy game = crappy sales
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#12 fuzzyking
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[QUOTE="fuzzyking"]

also, HD MADE....

Killzone 2

Halo 3

Gears of War

Uncharted

MGS4

must i name more....

Jaysonguy

So what you're saying is none of those games would be worth playing if they weren't hi rez 16:9?

That's quite an insult, willing to back it up?


well if you played killzone 2, the atmosphere and depth was made by its graphics.

In gears of war, the graphics weren't necessary, but like killzone 2, a lot of the game was made from the HD. Not saying that it needed it, but it did make the game that much better. Besides we are in the next gen, HD is basic now.

All the other games i listed were made for the NEXT GEN, which is THIS GEN. Those games pushed and the graphics were amazing. they could last without it, but in this GEN, its like required. Proof: Loook at all the threads. PS3 VS 360 Graphics.

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#13 TAKE_IT_BACK
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What? Are you joking? Do you really think the video game industry would be doing as well as it is now (in a recession) if it wasn't for Nintendo and the Wii?

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#14 Giancar
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Simple answer: No It is an underwhelming piece of hardware with tons of crappy games? Yes It has a few gems? yes
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#15 fuzzyking
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The Wii is doing more to expand the gaming audience than anything else at the moment. Who cares if they aren't "teh hardcorez", more and more people are gaming. The Wii being successful isn't going to kill the hardcore market by any stretch of the imagination. supercubedude64

i understand that they are trying to expand the market, HOWEVER, did they really have to kill hardcore that much. i mean name all the hardcore games and compare it to the 360/PS3's. probably not even 1/4. By doing that they just screwed all the hardcore gamers like me.

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#17 Grinning_Demon
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Yes, its killing gaming, the economy and causing the global warmings. In fact, human life expectancy was drasticly reduced since the Wiis launch, cientists say its related but further studies will be needed. The only thing its giving birth to is fantastic threads like this one.
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#18 habkeinbock
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[QUOTE="magiciandude"]

Funny you say that considering Facter 5 and Free Radical closed down after making a game for the PS3.

FirstDiscovery

Crappy game = crappy sales

no starwars

no timesplitter

yep that is killing gaming ! :lol:

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#19 SpruceCaboose
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Are there still hardcore games on the PS3 and 360?
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#20 Giancar
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[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"][QUOTE="magiciandude"]

Funny you say that considering Facter 5 and Free Radical closed down after making a game for the PS3.

habkeinbock

Crappy game = crappy sales

no starwars

no timesplitter

yep that is killing gaming ! :lol:

FR got bought by Cytrek, KING of "graphical power" :)
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[QUOTE="supercubedude64"]The Wii is doing more to expand the gaming audience than anything else at the moment. Who cares if they aren't "teh hardcorez", more and more people are gaming. The Wii being successful isn't going to kill the hardcore market by any stretch of the imagination. fuzzyking

i understand that they are trying to expand the market, HOWEVER, did they really have to kill hardcore that much. i mean name all the hardcore games and compare it to the 360/PS3's. probably not even 1/4. By doing that they just screwed all the hardcore gamers like me.

Sure, on the Wii there aren't a lot of hardcore games, but if you're a hardcore gamer, you probably own one of the other consoles to satiate yourself.

If you just own a Wi... then you just crazy.

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#22 habkeinbock
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[QUOTE="habkeinbock"]

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Crappy game = crappy salesGiancar

no starwars

no timesplitter

yep that is killing gaming ! :lol:

FR got bought by Cytrek, KING of "graphical power" :)

i hope they make a pc version with good controls :P

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#23 Dahaka-UK
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Nah it's not killing gaming.. The fad is wearing down now.. Hopefully lower sales will push Nintendo to make better games. Though I'm pretty sure their going to persist on the non gamer crap until it completely dies down.

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#24 hansolo14
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[QUOTE="magiciandude"]

Funny you say that considering Facter 5 and Free Radical closed down after making a game for the PS3.

FirstDiscovery

Crappy game = crappy sales

WRONG

look at halo wars!!!

is selling a lot to be such a crappy game (6.5)

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#25 caughtjoo
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[QUOTE="fuzzyking"]

[QUOTE="supercubedude64"]The Wii is doing more to expand the gaming audience than anything else at the moment. Who cares if they aren't "teh hardcorez", more and more people are gaming. The Wii being successful isn't going to kill the hardcore market by any stretch of the imagination. supercubedude64

i understand that they are trying to expand the market, HOWEVER, did they really have to kill hardcore that much. i mean name all the hardcore games and compare it to the 360/PS3's. probably not even 1/4. By doing that they just screwed all the hardcore gamers like me.

Sure, on the Wii there aren't a lot of hardcore games, but if you're a hardcore gamer, you probably own one of the other consoles to satiate yourself.

If you just own a Wi... then you just crazy.

And yet these threads keep coming back to life...
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#26 Giancar
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[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"][QUOTE="magiciandude"]

Funny you say that considering Facter 5 and Free Radical closed down after making a game for the PS3.

hansolo14

Crappy game = crappy sales

WRONG

look at halo wars!!!

is selling a lot to be such a crappy game (6.5)

HW is not a crappy game by all means, it has some good reviews out there A HUGE flop over here, sure
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also, HD MADE....

Killzone 2

Halo 3

Gears of War

Uncharted

MGS4

must i name more....

fuzzyking
lol i thought you were talking third party (except mgs4)
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#28 Splatman1
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If anyone has killed gaming its the developers out their releasing **** to the market and not caring about producing quality original titles.

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#29 fuzzyking
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[QUOTE="fuzzyking"]

also, HD MADE....

Killzone 2

Halo 3

Gears of War

Uncharted

MGS4

must i name more....

surrealnumber5

lol i thought you were talking third party (except mgs4)

um those are all third party.....

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#30 ChrisSpartan117
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I can't really answer this question until we see what direction the next generation of consoles take. Considering Nintendo wants the next console to be more powerful than the PS3, I can say I'm not worried yet.

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#31 Giancar
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="fuzzyking"]

also, HD MADE....

Killzone 2

Halo 3

Gears of War

Uncharted

MGS4

must i name more....

fuzzyking

lol i thought you were talking third party (except mgs4)

um those are all third party.....

KZ2 and Uncharted are 1st party Halo 3 was developed when MS owned Bungie
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#32 fuzzyking
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[QUOTE="fuzzyking"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] lol i thought you were talking third party (except mgs4)Giancar

um those are all third party.....

KZ2 and Uncharted are 1st party Halo 3 was developed when MS owned Bungie

my bad on halo and uncharted.

but kz2 is third party

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#33 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="fuzzyking"]

um those are all third party.....

fuzzyking

KZ2 and Uncharted are 1st party Halo 3 was developed when MS owned Bungie

my bad on halo and uncharted.

but kz2 is third party

No, GG is owned by Sony
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#34 fuzzyking
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[QUOTE="fuzzyking"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"] KZ2 and Uncharted are 1st party Halo 3 was developed when MS owned BungieGiancar

my bad on halo and uncharted.

but kz2 is third party

No, GG is owned by Sony

holy crap my bad again haha.

OK RE5, Dead Space, COD4/5, GTA4,

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[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"][QUOTE="magiciandude"]

Funny you say that considering Facter 5 and Free Radical closed down after making a game for the PS3.

hansolo14

Crappy game = crappy sales

WRONG

look at halo wars!!!

is selling a lot to be such a crappy game (6.5)

WRONG. On System Wars it's a flop, but it got good reviews from a lot of places, and is like 9.4 on Meta. Why do people keep using that as an example. The first 50 Cent game is good enough of an example.
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#36 Wolblade
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="fuzzyking"]

um those are all third party.....

fuzzyking

KZ2 and Uncharted are 1st party Halo 3 was developed when MS owned Bungie

my bad on halo and uncharted.

but kz2 is third party

Um...Killzone 2 was developed by Sony Computer Entertainment.

Guerrilla Games developed the game, but the company is owned by none other than Sony.

Thus, it is first-party.

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#37 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="fuzzyking"]

my bad on halo and uncharted.

but kz2 is third party

fuzzyking

No, GG is owned by Sony

holy crap my bad again haha.

OK RE5, Dead Space, COD4/5, GTA4,

don't worry, everybody makes mistakes sometimes
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#38 fuzzyking
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[QUOTE="hansolo14"]

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Crappy game = crappy salesMaster-Thief-09

WRONG

look at halo wars!!!

is selling a lot to be such a crappy game (6.5)

WRONG. On System Wars it's a flop, but it got good reviews from a lot of places, and is like 9.4 on Meta. Why do people keep using that as an example. The first 50 Cent game is good enough of an example.

Halo Wars is only Flop on GS. personally i didn't like it, either, but according to my friends who play, they like it

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#39 Giancar
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[QUOTE="hansolo14"]

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Crappy game = crappy salesMaster-Thief-09

WRONG

look at halo wars!!!

is selling a lot to be such a crappy game (6.5)

WRONG. On System Wars it's a flop, but it got good reviews from a lot of places, and is like 9.4 on Meta. Why do people keep using that as an example. The first 50 Cent game is good enough of an example.

it has 82 in MC, still a good game
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#40 hansolo14
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[QUOTE="fuzzyking"]

[QUOTE="supercubedude64"]The Wii is doing more to expand the gaming audience than anything else at the moment. Who cares if they aren't "teh hardcorez", more and more people are gaming. The Wii being successful isn't going to kill the hardcore market by any stretch of the imagination. supercubedude64

i understand that they are trying to expand the market, HOWEVER, did they really have to kill hardcore that much. i mean name all the hardcore games and compare it to the 360/PS3's. probably not even 1/4. By doing that they just screwed all the hardcore gamers like me.

Sure, on the Wii there aren't a lot of hardcore games, but if you're a hardcore gamer, you probably own one of the other consoles to satiate yourself.

If you just own a Wi... then you just crazy.

nope you're crazy, i mean wii have excellent games and is even better than GC

SMG>SMS

SSBB>SMBM

MP3>MP

NMH>Killer7

MKW>MKDD

RE4Wii>RE4

AC>AC

Paper Mario, Twilight princess, Madworld,THOTD:overkill, Z&W, DeBlob...

the only difference between Wi and GC is that wii is having all the trash that PS2 also had (best selling system=a lot of casual trash)

so I dont see the point here.. Wii already a have GOTY and the best is just to come

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#41 BuryMe
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I'm so sick of hearing this.

NO, THE WII ISN'T KILLING GAMING.

It's not doing any damge to the industry. Crappy games might (and I stress the word might) but they have existed on every console ever made, and will continue to exist.

Now can we drop the arguement, please?

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#42 Master-Thief-09
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[QUOTE="Master-Thief-09"][QUOTE="hansolo14"]

WRONG

look at halo wars!!!

is selling a lot to be such a crappy game (6.5)

Giancar

WRONG. On System Wars it's a flop, but it got good reviews from a lot of places, and is like 9.4 on Meta. Why do people keep using that as an example. The first 50 Cent game is good enough of an example.

it has 82 in MC, still a good game

My bad, typo of 8.4.

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#43 MBP_King
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I dont think it is but I rarely play mine.

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#44 dragonfly110
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Id say it isnt killing gaming per se (did I mispell that terribly? :P )

Although I do find it agrevating that nintendo hass pretty much given up on its hardcore gamer crowd

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#45 fuzzyking
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I'm so sick of thishearing this.

NO, THE WII ISN'T KILLING GAMING.

It's not doing any damge to the industry. Crappy games might (and I stress the word might) but they have existed on every console ever made, and will continue to exist.

Now can we drop the arguement, please?

BuryMe

Every console has crappy games, but look at the wii's. IT HAS SOO MUCH CRAPWARE. more than others

hurting industry, idk, but all i know is it is a waste of money when the game is only mediocre with no online. i dont care much about online as long as its a good game, but no game can make up for it othe than twilight princess, which i personally thought was average, and MP3, which was a very good game

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#46 hansolo14
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I dont think it is but " I rarely play mine."

MBP_King

thats your fault

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#47 Syferonik
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Its not killing gaming but its killing the NINTENDO name for hardcore gamers who are sick of Wii Fit and **** of same kind
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#48 hansolo14
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[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

I'm so sick of thishearing this.

NO, THE WII ISN'T KILLING GAMING.

It's not doing any damge to the industry. Crappy games might (and I stress the word might) but they have existed on every console ever made, and will continue to exist.

Now can we drop the arguement, please?

fuzzyking

Every console has crappy games, but look at the wii's. IT HAS SOO MUCH CRAPWARE. more than others

hurting industry, idk, but all i know is it is a waste of money when the game is only mediocre with no online. i dont care much about online as long as its a good game, but no game can make up for it othe than twilight princess, which i personally thought was average, and MP3, which was a very good game

PS2 had worst crap, realise it

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#49 Sword-Demon
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woo... another "wiihas bad 3rd party supportso its super casual and destroying the gaming industry" thread

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#50 Redgarl
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5$ DLC