Why the PS3 can't do cross-game chat

Who woulda thunk it ? :P

Seems odd their new handheld could do it. :o

Any thoughts ?

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Cross-game voice chat is not possible on the PlayStation 3 because of memory restrictions, Sony has revealed.

The PS3's RAM is gobbled up by the games it runs, which prevents the much-desired feature form being implemented, Sony Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida told Eurogamer.

"Once a game gets RAM we never give it back," he said. "It's not possible to retrofit something like that after the fact."

As revealed by Eurogamer yesterday, PS Vita, due out in Europe early next year, actually has more RAM than the PS3.

Vita has 512MB of RAM and 128MB of V-RAM, compared to the PS3's 256MB of system RAM and 256MB of video RAM. This enables features such as cross-game voice chat to run in the background while games are being played.

On the PS3, however, things are different.

"The game has to use its own memory to do [in-game voice chat]. There's always voice chat in the game. But it's a part of a game feature. It's not a part of an OS feature. That's the reason in terms of the ability to have voice chat across different games."

So, voice chat is better on Vita than PS3?

"We totally agree!" Yoshida replied.

yeowch, not surprising really as im pretty sure 360's one runs at the actual OS level :P

Well that sucks, guess we'll never have it on PS3 then.

Havent ever touched it on 360...wont on a PS3 either...I use Triton AX PROs and I sound-W**** so cross chat would annoy me

Havent ever touched it on 360...wont on a PS3 either...I use Triton AX PROs and I sound-W**** so cross chat would annoy me

OfficerLeach_

I still think it's because MS has a patent on cross chat for consoles, and that this is just another excuse like the whole " we don't need rumble " excuse.

I love cross-game chat.

last straw for me with the ps3, when when i realized i couldn't game, while downloading a game. that instantly caused me sell that thing. you realize how spoil you become for years cause of steam, then going back to console gaming. its like console gaming is just far behind not just graphically.

Well seeing that P2P chat programs on the PC take up only a few MBs of ram, I'm not buying it.

last straw for me with the ps3, when when i realized i couldn't game, while downloading a game. that instantly caused me sell that thing. you realize how spoil you become for years cause of steam, then going back to console gaming. its like console gaming is just far behind not just graphically.

Rahnyc4

You cant download while playing games? wow.

Well seeing that P2P chat programs on the PC take up only a few MBs of ram, I'm not buying it.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Well seeing that P2P chat programs on the PC take up only a few MBs of ram, I'm not buying it.

slipknot0129

[QUOTE="OfficerLeach_"]

Havent ever touched it on 360...wont on a PS3 either...I use Triton AX PROs and I sound-W**** so cross chat would annoy me

i5750at4Ghz

Well i meant that anybody id WANT to hear would already be in the game with me and i could hear them anyway lol...say someones on a dif game and im clutching a 1v4 in COD trying to hear their footsteps and my buddy is just chatting away then id get pissed lol...maybe im just cranky like that...i dont like text chats for the same reason because they distract me.

Thats sad, but its not a deal breaker.

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last straw for me with the ps3, when when i realized i couldn't game, while downloading a game. that instantly caused me sell that thing. you realize how spoil you become for years cause of steam, then going back to console gaming. its like console gaming is just far behind not just graphically.

Kantus_Mage

You cant download while playing games? wow.

[QUOTE="Kantus_Mage"]

[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]

last straw for me with the ps3, when when i realized i couldn't game, while downloading a game. that instantly caused me sell that thing. you realize how spoil you become for years cause of steam, then going back to console gaming. its like console gaming is just far behind not just graphically.

yellerbelly

You cant download while playing games? wow.

idk sometimes it would let me download while playing and sometimes not...same if i was in a video chat...im not sure the reasoning behind it...i first noticed i could while playing a disc-free game I had downloaded so maybe thats it??

[QUOTE="Kantus_Mage"]

[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]

last straw for me with the ps3, when when i realized i couldn't game, while downloading a game. that instantly caused me sell that thing. you realize how spoil you become for years cause of steam, then going back to console gaming. its like console gaming is just far behind not just graphically.

yellerbelly

You cant download while playing games? wow.

i don't know, i seem to have that problem all the time.

[QUOTE="yellerbelly"][QUOTE="Kantus_Mage"]

You cant download while playing games? wow.

OfficerLeach_

idk sometimes it would let me download while playing and sometimes not...same if i was in a video chat...im not sure the reasoning behind it...i first noticed i could while playing a disc-free game I had downloaded so maybe thats it??

[QUOTE="yellerbelly"][QUOTE="Kantus_Mage"]

You cant download while playing games? wow.

OfficerLeach_

idk sometimes it would let me download while playing and sometimes not...same if i was in a video chat...im not sure the reasoning behind it...i first noticed i could while playing a disc-free game I had downloaded so maybe thats it??

No duh, we knew this for ages. Sony failed to plan properly their system OS for their network and hardware. Microsoft, on the other hand, didn't. at the same time, Microsoft's Xbox OS uses less resources then Sony's PS3 OS, yet the Xbox is more robust.ShadowDeathX

Suppose they'll have to the OS footprint and dedicate the memory to cross game chat if that's really the explanation.

No problem, I don't chat much using my PS3 anyway...

No problem, I don't chat much using my PS3 anyway...

Khoo1992

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[QUOTE="yellerbelly"] Yes, you can download in the background while playing games. not sure what Rahnyc4 experienced...Rockman999

idk sometimes it would let me download while playing and sometimes not...same if i was in a video chat...im not sure the reasoning behind it...i first noticed i could while playing a disc-free game I had downloaded so maybe thats it??

makes sense thanks for the info...no more keeping my ps3 on while i sleep or do something else lol...ill just play something offline...cant believe i never knew this already haha...dont download alot though

Cross game chat is overrated. If im playing online then i want to be talking to teammates not someone playing a different game. I bet you cross game chatters are the scrubs that go 2-24 in Black Ops or are too busy camping and talking to play objective modes properly.

I love cross-game chat.

Lto_thaG

Well seeing that P2P chat programs on the PC take up only a few MBs of ram, I'm not buying it.

Wasdie

That and 360 didn't launch with Cross Game Chat

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Well seeing that P2P chat programs on the PC take up only a few MBs of ram, I'm not buying it.

The__Havoc

That and 360 didn't launch with Cross Game Chat

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

I love cross-game chat.

heretrix

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Well seeing that P2P chat programs on the PC take up only a few MBs of ram, I'm not buying it.

slipknot0129

Well that would be fine with me, I'd rather have it on new games only than no games at all. :P

yeowch, not surprising really as im pretty sure 360's one runs at the actual OS level :P

razgriz_101

[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]

last straw for me with the ps3, when when i realized i couldn't game, while downloading a game. that instantly caused me sell that thing. you realize how spoil you become for years cause of steam, then going back to console gaming. its like console gaming is just far behind not just graphically.

You cant download while playing games? wow.

last straw for me with the ps3, when when i realized i couldn't game, while downloading a game. that instantly caused me sell that thing. you realize how spoil you become for years cause of steam, then going back to console gaming. its like console gaming is just far behind not just graphically.

Rahnyc4

[QUOTE="Kantus_Mage"]

[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]

last straw for me with the ps3, when when i realized i couldn't game, while downloading a game. that instantly caused me sell that thing. you realize how spoil you become for years cause of steam, then going back to console gaming. its like console gaming is just far behind not just graphically.

yellerbelly

You cant download while playing games? wow.

last straw for me with the ps3, when when i realized i couldn't game, while downloading a game. that instantly caused me sell that thing. you realize how spoil you become for years cause of steam, then going back to console gaming. its like console gaming is just far behind not just graphically.

Rahnyc4

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

I love cross-game chat.

Timstuff

[QUOTE="Kantus_Mage"]

[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]

last straw for me with the ps3, when when i realized i couldn't game, while downloading a game. that instantly caused me sell that thing. you realize how spoil you become for years cause of steam, then going back to console gaming. its like console gaming is just far behind not just graphically.

savagetwinkie

You cant download while playing games? wow.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="Kantus_Mage"]

You cant download while playing games? wow.

Sony made a short-sighted decision to give the PS3 only 256 GB of ram. I know it has another 256 GB of dedicated video ram, but I don't think it would have killed them to spend a few bucks more to increase the regular ram too. That put PS3 multiplatform games at a disadvantage for a while, and it was always a bit of a handicap that developers had to work around. Hopefully ram will not be nearly as big of an issue on the next-gen systems.Timstuff

Cross game chat is overrated. If im playing online then i want to be talking to teammates not someone playing a different game. I bet you cross game chatters are the scrubs that go 2-24 in Black Ops or are too busy camping and talking to play objective modes properly.

dachase

It isn't at all overrated. Its a great feature.

In games with irksome teammates or games where few people talk, your experience takes a heavy blow lol.

It isn't hard at all to talk in a party and play a game, but I guess you wouldn't know that. :P