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#1 True_Gamer_
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Allow users to mod the games?

I mean its aint rocket science just allow users make mods on the HDD and the game use them like a patch?

That and the M/K support why the hell they dont integrade that? Isnt giving options>>>>Anything else?

I can bet that the day that they do these two VERY simple things alot of people will switch to consoles completely...

Why dont take the console games modding out of the shadow of modchips and illegality? Dont they want to make more money?

And as for the whole FPS/RTS balance thing: Just make two separate servers for the controller and MK people.. 

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#2 jachichorro
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Most people go to consoles exactly to avoid sitting in front of a monitor playing with a keyboard and a mouse, so I understand that. Mods, however, I don't see why don't we see them in consoles. Maybe because game editing tools for console games are non-existant?
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#3 smokeydabear076
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PS3 should have advanced map editors now that it has m/k functionality.
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PS3 should have advanced map editors now that it has m/k functionality.smokeydabear076

Nothing close to total conversions... 

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lack of dedicaded servers for games. Untile users are allowed to control exactly how servers are run, its not gonna happen.
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#6 Eragon_11
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i dont know why the dont.

 

but how does enabling gamers to mod games helping them making money?  

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#7 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]PS3 should have advanced map editors now that it has m/k functionality.jachichorro

Nothing close to total conversions...

Still a step towards building a strong flow of user created content.
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#8 True_Gamer_
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i dont know why the dont.

but how does enabling gamers to mod games helping them making money?

Eragon_11
You know people play on PCs and dont even bother of consoles (espessially console FPS/RTS) and one of the strong reasons is the lack of mods..
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#9 jachichorro
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[QUOTE="jachichorro"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]PS3 should have advanced map editors now that it has m/k functionality.smokeydabear076

Nothing close to total conversions...

Still a step towards building a strong flow of user created content.

Meh, I doubt the flow will become "strong". Just look at how XNA is doing in the 360. 

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#10 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="jachichorro"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]PS3 should have advanced map editors now that it has m/k functionality.jachichorro

Nothing close to total conversions...

Still a step towards building a strong flow of user created content.

Meh, I doubt the flow will become "strong". Just look at how XNA is doing in the 360.

XNA is game development, which is far more complicated than making a map for a game.
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#11 jachichorro
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[QUOTE="Eragon_11"]

i dont know why the dont.

 

but how does enabling gamers to mod games helping them making money?

True_Gamer_



You know people play on PCs and dont even bother of consoles (espessially console FPS/RTS) and one of the strong reasons is the lack of mods..

The lack of mods is a reason, but far from a strong one. You must keep in mind that the majority of PC gamers are casuals that aren't even aware of modding. 

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their is another problem, Mods mean less money for MS, and Sony. Once Mods come out, games last a lot longer, and people purches far less games.
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Most console users are casuals. They could care less about mods.
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their is another problem, Mods mean less money for MS, and Sony. Once Mods come out, games last a lot longer, and people purches far less games.cobrax25
I see... Then they just want to maintain the mindless stream of 5 hour long games... :( Console dumbed down milkage FTW!!!
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#15 Eragon_11
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[QUOTE="Eragon_11"]

i dont know why the dont.

 

but how does enabling gamers to mod games helping them making money?

True_Gamer_



You know people play on PCs and dont even bother of consoles (espessially console FPS/RTS) and one of the strong reasons is the lack of mods..

Anyone who plays solely on pc is not doing it because of lack of mods imo.

You have many other factors. (argueably/preferrably) Better controls in pc FPS. Lack of RTS games on consoles (if they enjoy this genre). Many exclusives to pc they enjoy (starcraft, diablo etc), MMO gaming, Free online.

So yea, the lack of mods is nothing to push people away from console gaming. anyone who goes it solely on pc's is doing it for more than just the mods.  

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#16 Bartz_Has_Bite
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PS3 and 360 have the ability to, it's been said numerous times, but the problem with the 360 is that it would have to go through that verification thing
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#17 jachichorro
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Most console users are casuals. They could care less about mods.foxhound_fox

The same goes for PC gamers. 

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Most console users are casuals. They could care less about mods.jachichorro

The same goes for PC gamers.

CS is a mod you know...
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Most console users are casuals. They could care less about mods.jachichorro

The same goes for PC gamers.

the top played online FPS in the world is a mod....
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#20 jachichorro
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[QUOTE="jachichorro"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Most console users are casuals. They could care less about mods.cobrax25

The same goes for PC gamers.



the top played online FPS in the world is a mod....

Yes, but are you aware that the number of offline pc gamers vastly surpasses the number of online gamers?

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#21 True_Gamer_
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[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="jachichorro"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Most console users are casuals. They could care less about mods.jachichorro

The same goes for PC gamers.



the top played online FPS in the world is a mod....

Yes, but you are aware that the number of offline pc gamers vastly surpasses the number of online gamers?

Rome Total Realism a mod for RTW had 100000 downloads on the FIRST day of its release... Thats only in the first day...And only in one game... Dont underestimate the popularity of PC games mods...
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I think these are one of the things that seperate PC and Console, Close vs. Open, Mod vs. Points. The majority of console gamers (casuals) would not care about a GTA version starring Mario.
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[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="jachichorro"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Most console users are casuals. They could care less about mods.jachichorro

The same goes for PC gamers.



the top played online FPS in the world is a mod....

Yes, but are you aware that the number of offline pc gamers vastly surpasses the number of online gamers?

No, thats not even close to true, some official result found that 80% of PC gamers played online regularity.
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#24 True_Gamer_
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[QUOTE="jachichorro"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="jachichorro"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Most console users are casuals. They could care less about mods.cobrax25

The same goes for PC gamers.



the top played online FPS in the world is a mod....

Yes, but are you aware that the number of offline pc gamers vastly surpasses the number of online gamers?

No, thats not even close to true, some official result found that 80% of PC gamers played online regularity.

Hmm I didnt know that..link?
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[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="jachichorro"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="jachichorro"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Most console users are casuals. They could care less about mods.True_Gamer_

The same goes for PC gamers.



the top played online FPS in the world is a mod....

Yes, but are you aware that the number of offline pc gamers vastly surpasses the number of online gamers?

No, thats not even close to true, some official result found that 80% of PC gamers played online regularity.

Hmm I didnt know that..link?

it was actually 60%, my bad. http://www.joystiq.com/2006/02/24/pc-gaming-market-healthy-shows-signs-of-growth/
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#26 Maelkav
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Consoles won't allow MODS because MODS extend the life of a game far beyond what the developers intended.

In theory, more MODs = longer game use = less new games sold = less $$$.

Baaaad for the console industry.

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#27 True_Gamer_
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Consoles won't allow MODS because MODS extend the life of a game far beyond what the developers intended.

In theory, more MODs = longer game use = less new games sold = less $$$.

Baaaad for the console industry.

Maelkav

 

So console industry is like: Make shallow 5h games and sell them continiously...Â