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because 360 gamers did mate, they had no gamesPinnacleGamingPWhat does any of this have to do with the 360? :?
They say ignorance is bliss, but your ignorance prevents you from experiencing the bliss of PC gaming
Xbox 360 = $400
Halo = $60
6 years of xbox live = $300+
So you spent $760+ just to play 1 Halo game on your xbox. If you buy 3 games a year, that means you spent $180 for 6 years. So add in another 1080 to the total cost.
For $760, you could have built a good gaming rig. You could have played on dedicated servers on the SUPERIOR steam network free of charge. You could have played games with 8x AA, ultra high graphics, etc. etc. Plus, you'd be able to play MMORPG and MMORTS not available on the consoles.
In the long run, building (Not buying) your own gaming rig is the better deal.
And no, you don't have to upgrade your RAM, CPU or GPU every year. My Radeon HD 5850 runs fine and I'll get a GTX 680 once the price comes down a bit.
I'm going to take the dramaticly different approach of asusming you're not trolling, and you just don't know what you are tlaking about.
First of all, you don't need to spen $1,000 on a PC to play games. If you want to play games at console-like settings, the price is closer to $400 (AMD APU + cheap mobo and case).
Another thing is that gmaing is NOT all about being cheap. I don't know where you got that from.
Gaming is about immersion and fun. And different people will expect different things from their gmaing time.
On console, you're limited by the ahrdware put out. An xbox is an xbox, a PS3 is a Ps3. Period.
On Pc, you havea variety of options. Do you want to have a console like experience on the cheap?
You can! Get a cheap APU absed PC or maybe something like the new console-like Alienware or just a small form factor case and you're set. You cna hook it up to your TV, and use a gamepad to play.
You can also spend a couple of hundred bucks more and you go from playing games at console settings, 720p, low-medium, to rocking 60 FPS at 1080p or higher reoslutions.
If you really want to, you can spend a few hundred more and game on a super high resolution monitor, or maybe multiple monitors with eyefinit or Nvidia surround. Or you cna play in 3D at 1080p (somethings consoles don't do).
There's just a ton of options each with it's own price point.
Console gamers just can't wrap their brains around that, I guess. They think that because you CAN spend a ton fo money on an SLI rig, somehow that means you NEED to. Which is just stupid.
Not only that, but once you ahve a gmaing Pc, you have a TON of LITERALLY FREE GAMES, available to you. There's a ton fo AAA quality free to play gmaes like Team fortress League of Legends, the upcoming DOTA, so right fo the bat, you can get gaming without spending a penny. Can;'t say the same for consoles.
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You could also spend 599 bucks only and enjoy photorealistic but stuttering graphics in Crysis :P
Kinthalis
On the Crysis xbox edition, yep, gotta agree with you there.
It's laggy on newer PC cards too. For example a GTX 460 isn't enough for 1080p with 16x AA and AF and maxed details.
6 years of xbox live = $300+
BattlefieldFan1
I would say how incredibly stupid it is to judge Live price based on six years in the future, but you are obviuosly just a lvl 5 troll, so I won't even bother.
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6 years of xbox live = $300+
R3FURBISHED
I would say how incredibly stupid it is to judge Live price based on six years in the future, but you are obviuosly just a lvl 5 troll, so I won't even bother.
50 X 6 = 300
Most people pay $60 after the price hike. So it's 300+. And further questions?
[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]
[QUOTE="nameless12345"]
You could also spend 599 bucks only and enjoy photorealistic but stuttering graphics in Crysis :P
nameless12345
On the Crysis xbox edition, yep, gotta agree with you there.
It's laggy on newer PC cards too. For example a GTX 460 isn't enough for 1080p with 16x AA and AF and maxed details.
You're kidding me right?
16X AA? Well, no **** it's not enough for that! Those settings would make a console explode! Nto that they could even try to set AA to 4X.
The game runs absolutely fine on a GTX 460 at 1080p, medium high settings, 2X AA (or better yet, just use FXAA from the GPU contorl panel).
Those are settings that NO CONSOLE could ever hope to run Crysis at.
Because it let's you join teh master race of gamers called Hermits and you get to show off to teh peasanst who play consoles because it makes you feel better about wasting so much damn time and money on something stupid.
Only some one who is filthy rich would waste that much money to play video games, there are far more important things to spend that much money on.
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]
You could also spend 599 bucks only and enjoy photorealistic but stuttering graphics in Crysis :P
nameless12345
On the Crysis xbox edition, yep, gotta agree with you there.
It's laggy on newer PC cards too. For example a GTX 460 isn't enough for 1080p with 16x AA and AF and maxed details.
What is your point? You don't need to run Crysis at those settings to look better than consoles[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"]because 360 gamers did mate, they had no gamesDemonjoe93What does any of this have to do with the 360? :? He is a troll. You'll get used to it. He is on every topic saying the same stuff. I think I even saw him on the sports discussion thread, preaching the same nonsense. lol
50 X 6 = 300
Most people pay $60 after the price hike. So it's 300+. And further questions?
BattlefieldFan1
And 6 years of PC upgrades is more than $300. Say you bought a new GTX card every year
500 X 6 = 3000
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see how incredibly stupid these kinds of arguments are? I'm guessing no, troll.
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[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]
On the Crysis xbox edition, yep, gotta agree with you there.
Kinthalis
It's laggy on newer PC cards too. For example a GTX 460 isn't enough for 1080p with 16x AA and AF and maxed details.
You're kidding me right?
16X AA? Well, no **** it's not enough for that! Those settings would make a console explode! Nto that they could even try to set AA to 4X.
The game runs absolutely fine on a GTX 460 at 1080p, medium high settings, 2X AA (or better yet, just use FXAA from the GPU contorl panel).
Those are settings that NO CONSOLE could ever hope to run Crysis at.
A GTX 580 isn't enough for some extreme mods on those settings either. And you don't get more than 30 fps in Skyrim. Two GTX 460s are roughly equalable to a GTX 580.
[QUOTE="BattlefieldFan1"]
50 X 6 = 300
Most people pay $60 after the price hike. So it's 300+. And further questions?
R3FURBISHED
And 6 years of PC upgrades is more than $300. Say you bought a new GTX card every year
500 X 6 = 3000
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see how incredibly stupid these kinds of arguments are? I'm guessing no, troll.
What? What the f*ck kind of logic is that? Hardly anyone upgrades every year, but that's not the point. The point is that it's not a requirement to upgrade to play online, while there is a requirement TO PAY on the 360 to play online.
So in order for a PC gamer to game online in 6 years, he would have paid $0 on a superior network, while the xbot would have had to fork over $300+ to play on an inferior, laggy P2P network.
[QUOTE="nameless12345"][QUOTE="Kinthalis"]
On the Crysis xbox edition, yep, gotta agree with you there.
ferret-gamer
It's laggy on newer PC cards too. For example a GTX 460 isn't enough for 1080p with 16x AA and AF and maxed details.
What is your point? You don't need to run Crysis at those settings to look better than consolesWhat's the point in buying a gaming PC then? Better control? Bu bu but teh graphix! :P
What is your point? You don't need to run Crysis at those settings to look better than consoles[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]
It's laggy on newer PC cards too. For example a GTX 460 isn't enough for 1080p with 16x AA and AF and maxed details.
nameless12345
What's the point in buying a gaming PC then? Better control? Bu bu but teh graphix! :P
I'm not understanding your argument. Just because a 460 can't play Crysis with an absurd amount of AA does not make it the same graphically and performance wise as consoles.What is your point? You don't need to run Crysis at those settings to look better than consoles[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]
It's laggy on newer PC cards too. For example a GTX 460 isn't enough for 1080p with 16x AA and AF and maxed details.
nameless12345
What's the point in buying a gaming PC then? Better control? Bu bu but teh graphix! :P
Because of the incredibly vast library of high quality games not found on consoles? That would be a start. Not to mention the several advantages that everyone already knows.[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"][QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"]because 360 gamers did mate, they had no gamesgodzillavskongWhat does any of this have to do with the 360? :? He is a troll. You'll get used to it. He is on every topic saying the same stuff. I think I even saw him on the sports discussion thread, preaching the same nonsense. lol That's good stuff right there. He's also invaded the lounge apparantely. :lol:
[QUOTE="nameless12345"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] What is your point? You don't need to run Crysis at those settings to look better than consolesferret-gamer
What's the point in buying a gaming PC then? Better control? Bu bu but teh graphix! :P
I'm not understanding your argument. Just because a 460 can't play Crysis with an absurd amount of AA does not make it the same graphically and performance wise as consoles.Yeah, it looks better but there's not much reason why console gamers should buy a gaming PC just for it if they can experience it in decent graphics on their systems. Besides, the console versions have more colorful lighting :P
What? What the f*ck kind of logic is that? Hardly anyone upgrades every year, but that's not the point. The point is that it's not a requirement to upgrade to play online, while there is a requirement TO PAY on the 360 to play online.
So in order for a PC gamer to game online in 6 years, he would have paid $0 on a superior network, while the xbot would have had to fork over $300+ to play on an inferior, laggy P2P network.
BattlefieldFan1
Gaming PCs cost money to keep current. That money you spend over time is more than what Live costs over time. My PC has been a money pit the entire time I've had it
I was a pc gamer for quite a while but I just couldn't keep up with the costs. Every 6 months there would be something bigger and badder and they would raise the system requirements for the next game, it got to the point where I was spending hundreds a year just trying to keep my PC up and able to run the newest games.
It's to expensive, you need to be borderline wealthy to keep up with PC system requirements on games.
[QUOTE="nameless12345"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] What is your point? You don't need to run Crysis at those settings to look better than consolesNanomage
What's the point in buying a gaming PC then? Better control? Bu bu but teh graphix! :P
Because of the incredibly vast library of high quality games not found on consoles? That would be a start. Not to mention the several advantages that everyone already knows.Meh, those mostly constitute of 2nd rate MMO and strategy games. Who plays those anyway? :P
Xbox 360 = $400
Halo = $60
6 years of xbox live = $300+
So you spent $760+ just to play 1 Halo game on your xbox. If you buy 3 games a year, that means you spent $180 for 6 years. So add in another 1080 to the total cost.
BattlefieldFan1
Everyone seems to forgot the cost of on the television. Someone wants to see games in high definition would have to spend $400-600 more. That would be $1400 in total if someone were to buy it all at once.
Consoles main purpose is playing games at a cost of about $1400 during its life time. While a PC can play games, watch movies, connect to the internet, play music or hundreds of other options. I prefer to have a PC because of its overall usefulness.
I was a pc gamer for quite a while but I just couldn't keep up with the costs. Every 6 months there would be something bigger and badder and they would raise the system requirements for the next game, it got to the point where I was spending hundreds a year just trying to keep my PC up and able to run the newest games.
It's to expensive, you need to be borderline wealthy to keep up with PC system requirements on games.
Zonned87
Yeah, you must upgrade like crazy if you want to play the latest games on the "screenshot quality" graphics. Otherwise you could just play those games on a console and not miss much :P
I'm not understanding your argument. Just because a 460 can't play Crysis with an absurd amount of AA does not make it the same graphically and performance wise as consoles.[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]
What's the point in buying a gaming PC then? Better control? Bu bu but teh graphix! :P
nameless12345
Yeah, it looks better but there's not much reason why console gamers should buy a gaming PC just for it if they can experience it in decent graphics on their systems. Besides, the console versions have more colorful lighting :P
What are you smoking? the console version of Crysis is awful.... and also there's no point in running games with 16x AA thats just a poor consoler excuse to prove a point. Native 1080 with 4x AA of none is still more then what consoles get. Also I ran Crysis maxed on dual 8800GT's at 1680x1050 which is slower then a GTX 460."Why should i spend a $1000+ on a computer to play video games?" Because it's fun! Screw money senses when I land a decent job after college I plan to spend $5000+ on my first gaming rig. I want to be truly top of the line with 3 GF590GTX's or whatever is the best graphics card at the time.Kell_the_Gamer
Sadly that "top of the line" PC will be outdated within a year or two ;)
I've just begun gaming on a PC and I am a little fearful of my video card becoming outdated too quickly, but I guess the same can be said for a console.I just didn't want to miss out on games like The Witcher 2, which I see now is coming to the 360, but there are still a wide variety of games available only to the PC, especially if you like RTS, which I do.I was a pc gamer for quite a while but I just couldn't keep up with the costs. Every 6 months there would be something bigger and badder and they would raise the system requirements for the next game, it got to the point where I was spending hundreds a year just trying to keep my PC up and able to run the newest games.
It's to expensive, you need to be borderline wealthy to keep up with PC system requirements on games.
Zonned87
[QUOTE="nameless12345"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] I'm not understanding your argument. Just because a 460 can't play Crysis with an absurd amount of AA does not make it the same graphically and performance wise as consoles.04dcarraher
Yeah, it looks better but there's not much reason why console gamers should buy a gaming PC just for it if they can experience it in decent graphics on their systems. Besides, the console versions have more colorful lighting :P
What are you smoking? the console version of Crysis is awful.... and also there's no point in running games with 16x AA thats just a poor consoler excuse to prove a point. Native 1080 with 4x AA of none is still more then what consoles get. Also I ran Crysis maxed on dual 8800GT's at 1680x1050 which is slower then a GTX 460.And how much fps you got? 24? That's not much better from consoles ;)
[QUOTE="Kell_the_Gamer"]"Why should i spend a $1000+ on a computer to play video games?" Because it's fun! Screw money senses when I land a decent job after college I plan to spend $5000+ on my first gaming rig. I want to be truly top of the line with 3 GF590GTX's or whatever is the best graphics card at the time.nameless12345
Sadly that "top of the line" PC will be outdated within a year or two ;)
But still more powerful than a console. People have to remember that you don't need to play a PC at max settings in order to have a better visual experience than consoles. With respect to the pricing, who really cares? If you are cheap and just want a quick easy experience buy a console and enjoy it. If you rather play on a PC you are going to play on a PC regardless of the price. For me I wouldn't care if a console was $200 and PC $2000 I rather pay the $2000 because that's what I enjoy.[QUOTE="Zonned87"]
I was a pc gamer for quite a while but I just couldn't keep up with the costs. Every 6 months there would be something bigger and badder and they would raise the system requirements for the next game, it got to the point where I was spending hundreds a year just trying to keep my PC up and able to run the newest games.
It's to expensive, you need to be borderline wealthy to keep up with PC system requirements on games.
nameless12345
Yeah, you must upgrade like crazy if you want to play the latest games on the "screenshot quality" graphics. Otherwise you could just play those games on a console and not miss much :P
I bought an 8800GT and im like oh hell yeah man im on top of the world.A year later you have games listing it as "minimum recommended". I had, had it at that point and I haven't bought any pc games since.
[QUOTE="nameless12345"][QUOTE="Kell_the_Gamer"]"Why should i spend a $1000+ on a computer to play video games?" Because it's fun! Screw money senses when I land a decent job after college I plan to spend $5000+ on my first gaming rig. I want to be truly top of the line with 3 GF590GTX's or whatever is the best graphics card at the time.whitey_rolls
Sadly that "top of the line" PC will be outdated within a year or two ;)
But still more powerful than a console.It ought to be more powerful considering the price and time of release ;)
A used 360 or PS3 is what? 100 bucks? And you don't need to buy anything to play everything on them (well, except a HDTV but you can also connect them to a PC monitor or a SDTV).
Gaming is suppost to be cheap and accessible, its why we have consoles that are cheap to manufacture in large quantities. They remain the same internally and still play games at a high quality even if the game came out 5 years after the console. PCs need upgrading constantly, as proven by the constant posts about graphics cards or other internal components. Consoles also offer mobility, you can take them anywhere, put them anywhere, and position them anyway you like. PC's are exclusive to a corner near the router, why go through all that? And computer chairs become a pain in the arse after a while. It makes no sense to spend money on a computer like that. With $1000 i can buy an xbox 360 and the best 20+ games that came out for it in the past 6 years.Second_Hokage
What is this... A computer is the same as a console as to where you can place it. If you want to play online for consoles or the comptuer you have to be close toa router or use wireless. And who said gaming is supposed to be cheap? 13 year olds these days.
You meant to say that console gaming cheap and accessible. PC gaming has different tiers of hardware depending on how much you are willing to spend, but it is still generally more expensive than consoles. Keep in mind that a PC does everything a console does and does it better, plus all of the functions of a regular computer as well. If you do not see value in spending more money for a better experience, then simply continue gaming on consoles. BPoole96Exactly, I don't see why all those on system wars find it necessary to defend what they want to game on. If you enjoy console gaming than enjoy it, you don't have to justify your choice by telling everyone why it's 'better' for whatever reason than gaming on a PC - or vice versa.
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