@kittennose said:
@intotheminx said:
@uninspiredcup said:
I worry about pc. Currently steam is absolutely being flooded with early access games are very prices, it borders on scam level. The actual quality of most of the titles borders on wii shovelware.
Also other companies less- reputable than Valve have opened up digital shops with extortionate prices, well, well above physical priced games. In many cases now, double, even.
When people say PC gaming is cheap, for hardware it is indeed much cheaper. Software wise, it is in the danger zone. The **** meter is shooting up.
I 100% agree. Every game I was excited about is being pushed for early access now, which completely turns me off. Why release a buggy game and leave horrible impressions? Most people understand that it is a "beta" or something, but there should still be a standard. Games shouldn't be released until they're finished in my opinion. DayZ could of been great if it was released as a finished product, but I'm afraid the sales of that game has set a poor standard. I was really looking forward to The Forest, but I read it will be early access as well. *sigh*
So The Forest will be done sometime in 2015. Without the early access program your only options would have been to buy it for full price sometime in 2015, or wait for a few months after it's release to buy it at a discount. Now thanks to Steam's early access program both those options are still on the table (along with a whole bunch of others you can choose if you change your mind) but the time line of the price drop has been substantially moved forward.
Games are now going on sale for half off when they are in beta. Heck Planetary Annihilation is half off today because it reached a development milestone. It isn't like these games will vanish from the market place once the early access period is done. Even if you hate the very idea behind this change, the people who benefit most from the early access program are those who refuse to take part in it. Why? Steam rewards the patient gamer with huge discounts. Early access has redefined the meaning of "patient gamer" to someone who waits until the game is in beta before they buy it. By the time it is finished it will have likely seen a 66% off sale already.
Seriously, please explain to me how that is something to complain about? Where is this downside you folks are seeing?
My friend, this is claptrap. Planetary Annihilation is being sold at £39.99, with the standard pc price being £29.99.
Perhaps you are new to pc gaming but, being an older gamer, I played titles like Quake 3 alpha in lan with my friends at the cost of £0. This concept of helping developers with alpha's and beta's is not new at all. The difference is, opportunistic fucks are now trying to take us for a ride as far as humanly possible.
I've personally posted on the steam forums, put up with fanboy bullshit and challenged the developers of various early access. The excuse is always "oh well, they kickstarted us, we have principles it would be fair on them, so we will overcharge everyone else". i.e. a pile of PR wank...
Also, Planetary Annihilation had a Kickstarter, like many "early access titles". It made fucking 2.2 million from it. It met it's stretch goals, well, well above what was asked. Much like Wastleand 2 and other other titles people funded out of good will. Now they have the money, suddenly and magically, that goodwill dissipates.
I don't give a shit about your forest game or "oh it's on a steam sale and therefor cheap for 20 minutes". Steam is getting flooded with wiiware level shit like WarZ, fucking 30 days to whatever, we are a Dayz clone, money give.
Aside from everything mentioned above, it allows them to avoid critical reviews since it's "unfinished" to the point Valve themselves are now having to actually take down games because they aren't even on the level of a Halflife 2 mod some little dickhead 14 year old could make at the weekend.
It's shit!
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