why do you care so much about graphics?

Back in the day I was going nuts over HL1 graphics. Everyone loves graphics. Graphics are what allow games to become more complex, like picking up guns on the ground in a first person shooter, or shooting a rope bridge that enemies are on and killing them all in one sweep. Without good graphics, we can't do things like this that allow us more freedom in games. Take Crysis for example, with the amazing engine we can traverse an entire island in one level without any load times, we can encounter multiple enemies in multiple areas or we can go off and explore the island for search of more firearms.

Without graphics: objects wouldn't go kaboom, bullets wouldn't penetrate walls and enemy bodies, Physics wouldn't be where they are today either and there are many more examples.

Back in the day I was going nuts over HL1 graphics. Everyone loves graphics. Graphics are what allow games to become more complex, like picking up guns on the ground in a first person shooter, or shooting a rope bridge that enemies are on and killing them all in one sweep. Without good graphics, we can't do things like this that allow us more freedom in games. Take Crysis for example, with the amazing engine we can traverse an entire island in one level without any load times, we can encounter multiple enemies in multiple areas or we can go off and explore the island for search of more firearms.

Without graphics: objects wouldn't go kaboom, bullets wouldn't penetrate walls and enemy bodies, Physics wouldn't be where they are today either and there are many more examples.

DragonfireXZ95

Yeah I agree with this guy, im a huge graphics whore lol, and i can admit it. I think its just a natural progression, as gaming gets better i want to see better graphics, better physics, better voice acting..well..everything really. I want things to feel like an improvment over last generation, otherwise it feels stale and played out. Im finding myself dissappointed in games that dont bother to add damage to windows or walls when i shoot them now, or interactability to random objects in the game! LOL 10 years ago that would of been top of the tier gaming, but now i want it to be a given. Games are expensive now adays, and i really HATE regretting my purchases.

Back in the day I was going nuts over HL1 graphics. Everyone loves graphics. Graphics are what allow games to become more complex, like picking up guns on the ground in a first person shooter, or shooting a rope bridge that enemies are on and killing them all in one sweep. Without good graphics, we can't do things like this that allow us more freedom in games. Take Crysis for example, with the amazing engine we can traverse an entire island in one level without any load times, we can encounter multiple enemies in multiple areas or we can go off and explore the island for search of more firearms.

Without graphics: objects wouldn't go kaboom, bullets wouldn't penetrate walls and enemy bodies, Physics wouldn't be where they are today either and there are many more examples.

DragonfireXZ95

wow that was prefound, i got real emotinal at the part about the kaboom. *sniff*

Graphics are part of the experience.

good graphics make a good game better. Fact.

Graphics are part of the experience.

good graphics make a good game better. Fact.

Eragon_11

Lair >_>

back in the golden age of gaming people were happy with any graphics. But now its all about how the games look. its getting so bad that devs have to cut back on games and make them for every system to make money on games. i think hardware should improve but it should not be pushed so hard so fast. The reason why i love ds so much. Its got great games that are fun. its simple and easy to use . on top of that there all cheap . If we want gaming to be main stream making us paying 60$ a game and more in other areas is not going to help. consoles should be cheaper and more simple as well. The HD gaming was rushed this gen. thats why ps3 was so expsive . alot of the big games cant even run in HD witch makes me ask why should we pay more for upscaled games?deadmeat59

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]back in the golden age of gaming people were happy with any graphics. But now its all about how the games look. its getting so bad that devs have to cut back on games and make them for every system to make money on games. i think hardware should improve but it should not be pushed so hard so fast. The reason why i love ds so much. Its got great games that are fun. its simple and easy to use . on top of that there all cheap . If we want gaming to be main stream making us paying 60$ a game and more in other areas is not going to help. consoles should be cheaper and more simple as well. The HD gaming was rushed this gen. thats why ps3 was so expsive . alot of the big games cant even run in HD witch makes me ask why should we pay more for upscaled games?Dante2710

[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="deadmeat59"]back in the golden age of gaming people were happy with any graphics. But now its all about how the games look. its getting so bad that devs have to cut back on games and make them for every system to make money on games. i think hardware should improve but it should not be pushed so hard so fast. The reason why i love ds so much. Its got great games that are fun. its simple and easy to use . on top of that there all cheap . If we want gaming to be main stream making us paying 60$ a game and more in other areas is not going to help. consoles should be cheaper and more simple as well. The HD gaming was rushed this gen. thats why ps3 was so expsive . alot of the big games cant even run in HD witch makes me ask why should we pay more for upscaled games?deadmeat59

[QUOTE="Eragon_11"]

Graphics are part of the experience.

good graphics make a good game better. Fact.

Sonick54

Lair >_>

MS rushed sony's hand by introducing the 360too early. Thus the 360 was so flaky (hardware-wise) and sonys ps3 was so expensive.

[QUOTE="Eragon_11"]

Graphics are part of the experience.

good graphics make a good game better. Fact.

Sonick54

Lair >_>

he said a "good game"

and still, graphics are the only good thing in lair,imagine Lair with Wii graphics.........

[QUOTE="Eragon_11"]

Graphics are part of the experience.

good graphics make a good game better. Fact.

Sonick54

Lair >_>

Lair was pretty bad in almost every category.

graphics in themselves isn't whats important.. its how the graphics are used in order to assist in conveying emotion, ideas, and atmosphere to a game.

The two easiest things to argue about are sales and graphics.

Since system wars is full of idiots, those two things are argued about constantly. Nobody really cares about graphics, its just used as a weapon for sake of system wars.

when someone looks at graphics something in the human mind says thts a great game but if the graphics aren't so good then we tend to not lean towards it

Why the hell wouldn't I want great graphics??

I spent $3000 on a 5 foot hdtv, and guess what? I want games to look great on it.

There is no reason not to have great graphics and great gameplay. Around it here it is just assumed that a game can only have one and not the other. I say B.S. to that.

artisitical desgin >>>>>>>>> photo realism

+10 bonus points for splelling!

artisitical desgin >>>>>>>>> photo realism

+10 bonus points for splelling!

Mr_Apple_Soup

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

artisitical desgin >>>>>>>>> photo realism

+10 bonus points for splelling!

wemhim

why would you use a comical design for an action thriller?

[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

artisitical desgin >>>>>>>>> photo realism

+10 bonus points for splelling!

Mr_Apple_Soup

why would you use a comical design for an action thriller?

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

artisitical desgin >>>>>>>>> photo realism

+10 bonus points for splelling!

wemhim

why would you use a comical design for an action thriller?

im just saying i like good art design like okami or SMG over GRAW or gears

A great game is great even without top of the line graphics (see SMG and old games)

Great graphics make great games even better (see Crysis)

Great Graphics do not make a bad game good (see Lair).

[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

artisitical desgin >>>>>>>>> photo realism

+10 bonus points for splelling!

Mr_Apple_Soup

why would you use a comical design for an action thriller?

im just saying i like good art design like okami or SMG over GRAW or gears

[QUOTE="Eragon_11"]

Graphics are part of the experience.

good graphics make a good game better. Fact.

Sonick54

Lair >_>

LOL graphics are very important but not as important as gameplay.

for people that say graphics is not next gen...to them i say buy ps1 and n64

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

artisitical desgin >>>>>>>>> photo realism

+10 bonus points for splelling!

wemhim

why would you use a comical design for an action thriller?

im just saying i like good art design like okami or SMG over GRAW or gears

Some games are better for artistical graphics while others are better for photorealism. If Mario was made real he would really look like a real Italian plumber and that would ruin the game and vice versa for shooters.

[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

artisitical desgin >>>>>>>>> photo realism

+10 bonus points for splelling!

lordlors

why would you use a comical design for an action thriller?

im just saying i like good art design like okami or SMG over GRAW or gears

Some games are better for artistical graphics while others are better for photorealism. If Mario was made real he would really look like a real Italian plumber and that would ruin the game and vice versa for shooters.

If u think about it there only 2 things that make a great game and thats visuals and gameplay.Having good graphics in fact makes a game better because it helps u emmerse yourself into whatever world your playing in.Ill admit graphics dont make a game fun by itself.The game has to be fun to keep u interested but graphics are very important to me and id bet that they are to every other gamer as well.If a gamer says that he doesnt like good graphics he,or she is lying.loudharley

in the golden age people didnt have computers ... we should'nt either.

its not only gfx, it gaming as a whole. as tech has moved on, game makers have moved on.

We have been given richer, more interactive worlds to explore, smarter enemies to fight, and greater storys to live , change, and bepart of. New technology has provided game makers with the ability to make games in new ways, and better, and more involved then ever before.

I'm sorry if your still playing a nintindo console and have not seen this kinna stuff yet, but its alot more fun then wiggling a new controller and pressing the same old jump button, in the same old game.

hmmm why are graphics important.....?....... how about, because playing a video game is a visual experience!

Yes, Gameplay>Good Graphics, but Gameplay+Good Graphics>Gameplay Bad Graphics

[QUOTE="Eragon_11"]

Graphics are part of the experience.

good graphics make a good game better. Fact.

Sonick54

Lair >_>

He said graphics make a good game better, not a bad game better.

WTF is with this crap that the Wii has such great gameplay.....

its bull.... 75% of all Wii games are total garbage, and 100% of them have last gen gfx.

So whats the argument for this system? it boggles my mind.