Why did SMG 2 get a 10? *Coming from unbiased gamer

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#1 jwhitmore12
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Mario Galaxy 2 is waaaay overrated. I like SMG and SMG2- both have provided me with hours of fun. How can people say that this game didn't feel like more of the same? And if not, how do its minimal changes warrant a perfect score? Other games take years of work to make, yet Nintendo can repackage a game and get a 10? wth?

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#2 Raymundo_Manuel
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It got a 10 because the reviewer has a different opinion than you.


I know, I know, your opinion should be regarded as fact...But some of us like to live in a fantasy world where other people can voice their own opinions as well. You can't control what we think.......yet

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#3 siddhu33
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First of all, the phrase *coming from unbiased gamer, automatically means that you have something hidden.

Second, it got a 10, as it is the best game for it's genre.

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#4 Mario1331
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because it perfected platforming. if you read the review you will answer your own question

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#5 Zero5000X
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It was a good game but I agree it was overrated. It was an improvement over the first in every way though I felt the first was overrated as well. It just doesn't compare to 3D platformers like Super Mario 64 and Banjo-Kazooie as far as I'm concerned. Nothing particularly memorable about it.
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#6 YankeeDan345
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First of all, the phrase *coming from unbiased gamer, automatically means that you have something hidden.

Second, it got a 10, as it is the best game for it's genre.

siddhu33
Its the best game for people who want to play SMG over again but don't want to play the same game over again.
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#7 jwhitmore12
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[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

It got a 10 because the reviewer has a different opinion than you.


I know, I know, your opinion should be regarded as fact...But some of us like to live in a fantasy world where other people can voice their own opinions as well. You can't control what we think.......yet

ok thanks for a serious response... anyways, no game should ever get a 10 BECAUSE every has their own opinion. Im not stating my opinion as fact, but I think most people will agree that there are many more memorable and 10-deserving games
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#8 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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how do its minimal changes warrant a perfect score? jwhitmore12

Read the review and find out. :)

Also: 10 doens't represent perfection.

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#9 rangegear
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Like you said...Its more of the same. Lets not forget the first game got a pretty high score aswell. a 9.5 if im not mistaken.

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#10 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

First of all, the phrase *coming from unbiased gamer, automatically means that you have something hidden.

Second, it got a 10, as it is the best game for it's genre.

YankeeDan345

Its the best game for people who want to play SMG over again but don't want to play the same game over again.

i dont understand SMG2 is not the same as SMG1 its a sequel how different do you want a sequel to be:|

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#11 dercoo
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The reviewer thought it was really good...

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#12 jwhitmore12
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[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

First of all, the phrase *coming from unbiased gamer, automatically means that you have something hidden.

Second, it got a 10, as it is the best game for it's genre.

I have bought almost every 1st party nintendo game released this gen. I said that because I wanted serious responses, not "ooh youre just a hater"
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#13 dunl12496
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Because the wii doesn't have that many good games so something a little good is a 10. Like Welcome To The Jungle by Guns and Roses.

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#14 Yangire
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[QUOTE="YankeeDan345"][QUOTE="siddhu33"]

First of all, the phrase *coming from unbiased gamer, automatically means that you have something hidden.

Second, it got a 10, as it is the best game for it's genre.

Mario1331

Its the best game for people who want to play SMG over again but don't want to play the same game over again.

i dont understand SMG2 is not the same as SMG1 its a sequel how different do you want a sequel to be:|

I agree, people seem to have unrealistic expectations for sequels here.

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#15 lucky_star
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I havent started SMG 2 yet. But if its just more of the same i might be disappointing.

New Super Mario Bros -> SMG.

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#16 raskullibur
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It got because it's Mario + Nostalgia = Win!
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#17 jwhitmore12
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It got because it's Mario + Nostalgia = Win!raskullibur
I admit, I enjoy nostalgia, but, as ironic as this sounds- its getting old. when will reviewers stop using nostalgia as a factor in reviews?
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#19 Mercenary848
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I put of getting this game for a while and finally got it yesterday. Honestly i see no problem with it, no game is perfect, but the 10 is justified.

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#20 ethersol
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I havent started SMG 2 yet. But if its just more of the same i might be disappointing.

New Super Mario Bros -> SMG.

lucky_star
i am in the same boat atm haha. i went and bought it because it was $69 instead of the overpriced $120 here :| but i will get around to it soon. and lol New Super Mario Bros. is fun, but oh my god does it test my patience and friendship hahaha most of the time you're accidentally killing one another instead of enemies killing you 8D i played SMG1 and i enjoyed it, but it wasn't the bee's knees to me. i'm hoping for a fresher experience with SMG2, and the addition of yoshi should be fun. i still don't think i will end up giving SMG2 a perfect 10, even after i finish the game. i predict anywhere from 8.5-9.0
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#21 bri360
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[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

It got a 10 because the reviewer has a different opinion than you.


I know, I know, your opinion should be regarded as fact...But some of us like to live in a fantasy world where other people can voice their own opinions as well. You can't control what we think.......yet

jwhitmore12

ok thanks for a serious response... anyways, no game should ever get a 10 BECAUSE every has their own opinion. Im not stating my opinion as fact, but I think most people will agree that there are many more memorable and 10-deserving games

Good for you, but to the reviewer, SMG was the best. Thus it got a 10.

Rly its not that hard to understand...

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#22 Silenthps
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he gave reasons as to why he gave it a 10 in his review. if you see any flaws in his review then point it out but otherwise i see no point in complaining about it.
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#23 Mercenary848
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[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]raskullibur

i disagree, honestly you could have done this game with any cast of charachters and the gameplay and amazing level design still would come through.

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#24 Diviniuz
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The game is way too easy, thats the biggest issue with it.
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#25 Elian2530
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*Flame bunker prepped and ready

jwhitmore12
*uses flamethrower to chase you out* :P I dont know man.. it's probably because it's the first true Mario sequel. They HAD to give that a 10. :)
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#26 antiredcap
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It's the best game I've played in the past 4 years, I'd also give it a 10.
Have you read the review, the reasoning for the high rating is obvious there.

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#27 Rockman999
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It got a 10 simply because of the Mario name, if you were to keep the gameplay and replace the name and characters with something else, the game would have gotten an 8.5. It's sad really.
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#28 KungfuKitten
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I thought SMG2 required years of work to make as well.

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#29 kontejner44
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It got a 10 becuase it doesn't need any improvement in any category, it's the best title for what it does, 3D platforming. Now if you enjoy the gameplay or not that's another issue.

I think it's the best single player game ever created. It's not OoT in terms of impact, it's just a game that is perfect.

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#30 lucky_star
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[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

It got a 10 becuase it doesn't need any improvement in any category, it's the best title for what it does, 3D platforming. Now if you enjoy the gameplay or not that's another issue.

I think it's the best single player game ever created. It's not OoT in terms of impact, it's just a game that is perfect.

May i ask what is your Top 5 single player games if SMG2 is #1?
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#31 caryslan2
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It got a 10 simply because of the Mario name, if you were to keep the gameplay and replace the name and characters with something else, the game would have gotten an 8.5. It's sad really.Rockman999

Why does everyone keep saying it got its score just because its a Mario game? If that were the case every Mario game would be getting at least a 9.0 on Gamespot.

And yet, Super Mario Sunshine got an 8.0 and New Super Mario Brothers Wii got an 8.5 here on Gamespot. Maybe the reviewer felt SMG2 was an amazing platformer that improved on SMG1?

Honestly, why does everyone attack an high review score for an Nintendo game and act like its getting by because of a name and nostalgia?

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[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

It got a 10 becuase it doesn't need any improvement in any category, it's the best title for what it does, 3D platforming. Now if you enjoy the gameplay or not that's another issue.

I think it's the best single player game ever created. It's not OoT in terms of impact, it's just a game that is perfect.

lucky_star

May i ask what is your Top 5 single player games if SMG2 is #1?

It's easier to make a current gen list

SMG2, MGS4, UC2, SMG, Prime Trilogy*

* = Normally I wouldn't add a trilogy pack but to play Prime 1 and 2 with Prime 3 controls is heaven for me so I just have to add it

Those 4 games are in the top tier, Zelda TP follows after that. TP is the best Zelda game imo, but it's a gamecube game so the gameplay wasn't made with Wii controls in mind, SS will fix that. I think SS is going to be the next 10-fest game from Nintendo.

Yeah I am aware that all of those games got high metascores, but hey I heavily disliked GTA4 that gotta count for something :p

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#33 lucky_star
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[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

[QUOTE="lucky_star"][QUOTE="kontejner44"]

It got a 10 becuase it doesn't need any improvement in any category, it's the best title for what it does, 3D platforming. Now if you enjoy the gameplay or not that's another issue.

I think it's the best single player game ever created. It's not OoT in terms of impact, it's just a game that is perfect.

May i ask what is your Top 5 single player games if SMG2 is #1?

It's easier to make a current gen list

SMG2, MGS4, UC2, SMG, Prime Trilogy*

* = Normally I wouldn't add a trilogy pack but to play Prime 1 and 2 with Prime 3 controls is heaven for me so I just have to add it

Those 4 games are in the top tier, Zelda TP follows after that. TP is the best Zelda game imo, but it's a gamecube game so the gameplay wasn't made with Wii controls in mind, SS will fix that. I think SS is going to be the next 10-fest game from Nintendo.

Yeah I am aware that all of those games got high metascores, but hey I heavily disliked GTA4 that gotta count for something :p

Pretty good. Ive had more fun with NSMB than SMG1 to be honest.
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#34 Malta_1980
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it got a 10 cause the reviewer enjoyed the game... doesnt mean SMG2 is perfect, no game is...

Personally i think it deserves the high scores, i'd give it a 9.2/10 easily...

Keep in mind that reviews are opinions !!!

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#35 elcoholic
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IMO opinion it shouldn't have gotten a 10 either, more like 9.0.I had issues with the camera, mainly it being to far away. And I would have preffered playing it with a normal controller since I hate the thumbstick on the nunchuck. Alsoit got very repetitive for me and felt like a chore after world 3. I beat the last bowser and didn't even feel like going for the stars I missedor the extra ones. I got all stars in SMG but part 2 was just more of the same without the impact the first had on me. So for me it was actually a (slightly) worse game than 1.

Great game though but hardly perfect.

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#36 farnham
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SMG 2 got 10 because Gamespot did not give SMG a 10 and regretted that dreadful decision afterwards


FACT!

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#37 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="jwhitmore12"]

*Flame bunker prepped and ready

Elian2530

*uses flamethrower to chase you out* :P I dont know man.. it's probably because it's the first true Mario sequel. They HAD to give that a 10. :)

What makes it a "true" sequel?

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#38 tutt3r
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The opinions of TC are discredited and are not vaild facts. However the opinion of one man giving reviews is considered undeniable fact. lol the irony is so funny sometimes on SW

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#39 Espada12
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Because Tom Mc Sheasaw Stevo_the_gamer's post in the hype thread and said you know what! I'm going to own him! lolol

EDIT: wrong reviewer lulz.

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#40 Filthybastrd
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It's at least as much of a 10 as MGS4 and GTA4.

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#41 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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Now that I've been playing it, I can say that it's a more well-rounded game. There is more variety, better level design, and it's more challenging. Since a 10 isn't meant to be perfect, I feel that this game deserves a 10. It has minor flaws, but you could say that about GTA4 or MGS4.

Everyone is welcome to their opinion of course, but don't expect to have yours taken more seriously than others. *coming from an unbiased gamer* None of us are unbiased gamers, not even the reviewers from GS.

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#42 VideoGameGuy
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Go find a better platformer, not gonna happen. It's polished, it's inventive, it's technically sound, it plays perfect, it does everything that a game deserving a 10 should do. Stop complaining. I don't think MGS4 or GTA4 deserve anything close to a 10 but what are ya gonna do, right?
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#43 haziqonfire
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The game is way too easy, thats the biggest issue with it.Diviniuz
It's feels easy because the camera isn't absolutely terrible like it was in Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Sunshine. Also, the last star is ridiculously challenging (242nd star). I also feel that no one can properly judge the game unless they've completed it 100% -- getting all 242 stars -- because some of them are really well done and hidden in neat areas.
It got a 10 simply because of the Mario name, if you were to keep the gameplay and replace the name and characters with something else, the game would have gotten an 8.5. It's sad really.Rockman999
Actually, quiet the opposite. Replace the game with any other character and it would still be absolutely brilliant.
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#44 kontejner44
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[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

[QUOTE="lucky_star"] May i ask what is your Top 5 single player games if SMG2 is #1?lucky_star

It's easier to make a current gen list

SMG2, MGS4, UC2, SMG, Prime Trilogy*

* = Normally I wouldn't add a trilogy pack but to play Prime 1 and 2 with Prime 3 controls is heaven for me so I just have to add it

Those 4 games are in the top tier, Zelda TP follows after that. TP is the best Zelda game imo, but it's a gamecube game so the gameplay wasn't made with Wii controls in mind, SS will fix that. I think SS is going to be the next 10-fest game from Nintendo.

Yeah I am aware that all of those games got high metascores, but hey I heavily disliked GTA4 that gotta count for something :p

Pretty good. Ive had more fun with NSMB than SMG1 to be honest.

I haven't played NSMBW yet :p Nintendo games are expensive ._.

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#45 Mogotoo
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It got because it's Mario + Nostalgia = Win!raskullibur
New Super Mario Bros. Wii, the ultimate Mario nostalgia trip, got an 8.5.

:|.

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#46 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="raskullibur"]It got because it's Mario + Nostalgia = Win!Mogotoo

New Super Mario Bros. Wii, the ultimate Mario nostalgia trip, got an 8.5.

:|.

So Quite Obviously it's not because of Nostalgia that Super Mario Galaxy 2 got a 10.

Maybe it's because it really is a Good Game.

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#47 donalbane
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There is a psychological phenomenon known as the 'mere ownership effect' that asserts that people will enjoy things more if they have elements that are familiar... in this case, Mario. People instantly think, "Mario... just like when I was a kid!". Plus, it was an innovative game. I didn't care for the first one, so I won't ever play the 2nd, but I do understand the Miyamoto appeal.
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Because Tom Mc Sheasaw Stevo_the_gamer's post in the hype thread and said you know what! I'm going to own him! lolol

EDIT: wrong reviewer lulz.

Espada12
lulz. So, THAT's why it got AAAA....
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#49 Midnightshade29
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I agree tc, but you will not get these ninty Mario obsessed fans to agree. If smb2 was a 10 for perfecting platforming then the same should be true of the ratchet and clank future series that is majorly underrated here, especially tools of destruction. Don't get me started on that. Mario has been overrated for a long time.
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#50 KillerWabbit23
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Because that's the guy's opinion. Or girl, whatever.

Taken on its own as a platformer, it's a pretty darn good game.

10 doesn't neccesarily mean perfect, (because no game is truly perfect), it just means that it got the highest score the reviewer could give it.