Who is the graphics king ? Switch Mk1 vs XBSEX Starfield

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Poll Who is the graphics king ? Switch Mk1 vs XBSEX Starfield (19 votes)

Switch version of MK1 53%
Starfield 47%
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As we all know both games have been getting hit really hard for its bad graphics. I mean its pretty bad when the entire gaming world is bashing both games for its ugly graphics, but out of the two which one takes graphics king?

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Don't encourage him, let this one die.

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Which pic is which game? Label pics please

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I will make a MK1 thread about the Switch, be patient.

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Looks like I've found my new future profile pic😅

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#5  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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Starfield looks great, like they infused the venerable and moddable creation engine with id Tech dna, and created some sort of Alien hybrid.

See what amuses me about this thread is that you took the best possible screenshot of Switch you could find and the absolute worst looking shots of Starfield you could find. Quite amusing.

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#6 R4gn4r0k
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@davillain said:

Looks like I've found my new future profile pic😅

Get with the cool kids, your profile pic should obviously be a game score from some obscure website nobody gives a toss about.

Seriously though, those eyes look hilarious xD

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@hardwenzen said:

I will make a MK1 thread about the Switch, be patient.

Dude, I'm gonna miss you in the Starfield thread :'(

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@R4gn4r0k: THose shots are likely from the XSS version of Starfield.

Upscaled 1080p low settings and 30 fps.

understandably looks like trash, but much better than anything on the Switch.

Now the 4K Ultra settings PC version of Starfield is... Chef's kiss

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@R4gn4r0k: THose shots are likely from the XSS version of Starfield.

Upscaled 1080p low settings and 30 fps.

understandably looks like trash, but much better than anything on the Switch.

Now the 4K Ultra settings PC version of Starfield is... Chef's kiss

Yeah man I'm playing Starfield on a 3080ti and it looks bliss.

Ultra settings with DLSS 2 quality mode.

What resolution are you playing at?

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#10  Edited By Mozelleple112
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@R4gn4r0k:

I spent the first 20 odd hours playing:

4K DLSS/FG (0.8 scale = 3072x1728p) all settings at ultra.

I recently read a reddit post where someone said the shadows in the game were bugged as in they are extremely taxing / poorly optimised and don't really look any better on ultra vs medium.

so for the last 10 hours I tried turning shadows down to medium and honestly cannot tell a difference between that and ultra.

so now I run 4K DLAA/FG (native 4K as scale =1x), shadows medium all else Ultra.

Set my OLED's VSYNC to 4K/116. It pretty much never drops below 116 fps.

I really can't tell the difference between 0.8 and 1 scale on 4K either, not even 0.7 scale (DLSS Quality is 0.66x which is 1440p), but my frame rate is stable so I don't need the extra head room.

If you haven't already, try setting shadows to medium. it gives a pretty huge boost and no apparent loss in fidelity to my eyes. I tried it on all kinds of planets, both exteriors and interiors at different time of day, the quantity and quality is no different. I assume you get maybe 60 fps on 3080 Ti if you play 4K DLSS2 Quality ? medium shadows should boost your FPS. Or allow you to set the slider to something higher like 0.7, 0.75, 0.8 for the same FPS.

The Redditor had an RTX 4070, maybe its just an issue/fix for 40xx users but worth a try.

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#11  Edited By ClockWorkBanana
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MK1 is just a shitty port running on 400 Gflop tablet. Starfield has no excuse, its just looks hideous by design

@R4gn4r0k said:

Starfield looks great

No it doesn't

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@davillain: Why don’t you close this thread? Even by System Wars standards, this is low effort.

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#13  Edited By Mozelleple112
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@Juub1990: If you're going to start closing threads like these you might as well shut down the entire forum. this isn't 2008 anymore. At this point they shouldn't close anything unless its porn or something.

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@Juub1990: Daredevil's threads are the new (low) standard of SW. Look at the bright side, it can't get much worse than this.

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Cows got the SFDS bad. lol :P

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@davillain: 😂

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MK11 wasn't a looker on Switch, but it looked a lot better than this. It's straight up unfinished on Switch and not feature complete, they should've just delayed it.

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@R4gn4r0k said:
@hardwenzen said:

I will make a MK1 thread about the Switch, be patient.

Dude, I'm gonna miss you in the Starfield thread :'(

It all began with ghost missing in the Starfield thread. I miss his damage control, and because of that, the thread is missing me, and i am moving, prepairing my body for the MK1 Switch thread. The title for the thread is ready, all what's missing is the DF analysis.

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@daredevils2k: Yeah, and I hear Starfield is Zero FPS on PS5 - which is the reason for this stupid thread, huh?

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@dabear said:

@daredevils2k: Yeah, and I hear Starfield is Zero FPS on PS5 - which is the reason for this stupid thread, huh?

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@Juub1990 said:

@davillain: Why don’t you close this thread? Even by System Wars standards, this is low effort.

This isn't one of his fanboy wars threads he's doing. I've seen few people comparing MK1 Switch graphics to Starfield so this isn't really new here.

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Am I the only one that hasn't seen any of those faces yet in starfield. Most of the characters I talk to don't look that bad.

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#23  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@super600 said:

Am I the only one that hasn't seen any of those faces yet in starfield. Most of the characters I talk to don't look that bad.

Yeah that's not at all how Starfield looks, but don't even bother telling those that haven't played the game yet and just want to bash it endlessly for shits and giggles.

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@R4gn4r0k said:
@super600 said:

Am I the only one that hasn't seen any of those faces yet in starfield. Most of the characters I talk to don't look that bad.

Yeah that's not at all how Starfield looks, but don't even bother telling those that haven't played the game yet and just want to bash it endlessly for shits and giggles.

I haven't seen anyone looking like the ones in the pic above cause they don't exist from what I've seen in New Atlantis. I really don't know how or when it was patched to fix the people of New Atlantis.

Anyhow, the MK1 Switch version is a disgrace, and charging $70 for that is far worse. With Starfield, you can play it on Game Pass.

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Played about 20 hours in Starfield now and haven’t seen anything that looks like those pics in it.

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@davillain said:

This isn't one of his fanboy wars threads he's doing.

Of course not.

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@super600 said:

Am I the only one that hasn't seen any of those faces yet in starfield. Most of the characters I talk to don't look that bad.

I haven't even played the game, and know that this is not how you spot them. All you need to do is to stand still where npc's are walking by, and you're guaranteed to have a bunch of them walking by with these kind of faces. They look worse than all Oblivion npc's and that game is from 2006.

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im over 20 hours in starfield and Im loving the game but the game is so out dated.

its like they kept skyrims engine and left it that way.

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@R4gn4r0k said:
@super600 said:

Am I the only one that hasn't seen any of those faces yet in starfield. Most of the characters I talk to don't look that bad.

Yeah that's not at all how Starfield looks, but don't even bother telling those that haven't played the game yet and just want to bash it endlessly for shits and giggles.

it kind of does. facial animation in this game is so out dated.

heck cyberpunk looks way better on the ps4.

the worlds are very bland and not much to them.

don't get me wrong Im loving starfield so far but the graphics looks like a early xbox one game.

heck xbox one launch game ryse of rome has better graphic

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@gifford38 said:

it kind of does. facial animation in this game is so out dated.

heck cyberpunk looks way better on the ps4.

the worlds are very bland and not much to them.

don't get me wrong Im loving starfield so far but the graphics looks like a early xbox one game.

heck xbox one launch game ryse of rome has better graphic

Then you have problems with your eyes.😔

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@hardwenzen said:
@super600 said:

Am I the only one that hasn't seen any of those faces yet in starfield. Most of the characters I talk to don't look that bad.

I haven't even played the game, and know that this is not how you spot them. All you need to do is to stand still where npc's are walking by, and you're guaranteed to have a bunch of them walking by with these kind of faces. They look worse than all Oblivion npc's and that game is from 2006.

I have yet to see any faces that look that bad. I wa playing on cydonia earlier and their is definitely a downgrade in some NPC faces but none of them look as bad as what was shown in the OP.

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#32  Edited By hardwenzen  Online
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@super600 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@super600 said:

Am I the only one that hasn't seen any of those faces yet in starfield. Most of the characters I talk to don't look that bad.

I haven't even played the game, and know that this is not how you spot them. All you need to do is to stand still where npc's are walking by, and you're guaranteed to have a bunch of them walking by with these kind of faces. They look worse than all Oblivion npc's and that game is from 2006.

I have yet to see any faces that look that bad. I wa playing on cydonia earlier and their is definitely a downgrade in some NPC faces but none of them look as bad as what was shown in the OP.

Go to New Atlantis, stand still near npcs that walk around and look at their face. Their head very often will lock to yours, and they will have the faces you're looking for.

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#33  Edited By super600  Moderator
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@hardwenzen said:
@super600 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@super600 said:

Am I the only one that hasn't seen any of those faces yet in starfield. Most of the characters I talk to don't look that bad.

I haven't even played the game, and know that this is not how you spot them. All you need to do is to stand still where npc's are walking by, and you're guaranteed to have a bunch of them walking by with these kind of faces. They look worse than all Oblivion npc's and that game is from 2006.

I have yet to see any faces that look that bad. I wa playing on cydonia earlier and their is definitely a downgrade in some NPC faces but none of them look as bad as what was shown in the OP.

Go to New Atlantis, stand still near npcs that walk around and look at their face. Their head very often will lock to yours, and they will have the faces you're looking for.

Reading up on it a bit more the only way you can get them to look bad is if you are crouching or standing near them while they are walking around. You can't pull this off normally. So you aren't going to casually get the AI NPCs to show their goofy facial animations unless you are messing around.

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@super600 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@super600 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@super600 said:

Am I the only one that hasn't seen any of those faces yet in starfield. Most of the characters I talk to don't look that bad.

I haven't even played the game, and know that this is not how you spot them. All you need to do is to stand still where npc's are walking by, and you're guaranteed to have a bunch of them walking by with these kind of faces. They look worse than all Oblivion npc's and that game is from 2006.

I have yet to see any faces that look that bad. I wa playing on cydonia earlier and their is definitely a downgrade in some NPC faces but none of them look as bad as what was shown in the OP.

Go to New Atlantis, stand still near npcs that walk around and look at their face. Their head very often will lock to yours, and they will have the faces you're looking for.

Reading up on it a bit more the only way you can get them to look bad is if you are crouching or standing near them while they are walking around. You can't pull this off normally. So you aren't going to casually get the AI NPCs to show their goofy facial animations unless you are messing around.

Really? You can't be standing near an npc in an open world rpg? lol. I have seen this happen on random streams from people that didn't even knew about it. This will happen to every single person that has played the game for more than 2 hours. Like, how is it that in BG3 this cannot happen, and all the random npc's have pretty detailed faces, and not the damn creatures that are in Starfield?

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@Pedro said:
@gifford38 said:

it kind of does. facial animation in this game is so out dated.

heck cyberpunk looks way better on the ps4.

the worlds are very bland and not much to them.

don't get me wrong Im loving starfield so far but the graphics looks like a early xbox one game.

heck xbox one launch game ryse of rome has better graphic

Then you have problems with your eyes.😔

what its the most jaggys I have seen in a game in years.

I really liking the game though so Im not trying to hate on it.

but there engine is flat looking. hard to explain. no depth to it. not like hfw2 were things popped.

plus you got grid looking background like say pokemon on the switch.

but I will spend over 100 hours in this game like I do with every open world game that I like.

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MK1 no contest

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@kathaariancode said:

@Juub1990: Daredevil's threads are the new (low) standard of SW. Look at the bright side, it can't get much worse than this.

LOL no, not by a long shot. Wait until tgob starts posting again. He's still lurking just not posting after the humiliation of subHD Jedi Survivor.

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#38  Edited By Pedro
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@gifford38 said:

what its the most jaggys I have seen in a game in years.

I really liking the game though so Im not trying to hate on it.

but there engine is flat looking. hard to explain. no depth to it. not like hfw2 were things popped.

plus you got grid looking background like say pokemon on the switch.

but I will spend over 100 hours in this game like I do with every open world game that I like.

I am sorry that you have problems with your eyes. 🥲

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@Pedro: talking to you is like saying Pete and Repeat was in a boat. Pete fell out. Who is left?

Ok Pete and Repeat was in a boat. Pete fell out. Who was left?

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It’s a tie between Spider-Man 2 and TLOU for worst graphics.