Which RP Game/series is the prime example of video games RPGs?

I don't think you can have a prime example. They all set out to do different things really.

Dragon Age is not generic like Obliivon, not linear and turn based like FFs and not juyst a loot game like Diablo/Demon Soul

So, Dragon Age would be close to the ideal RPG

Fable 2 comes first though, since has all Dragon Age perks and a huge simulation aspect

Mass Effect 2 is also as good or better

Fable 3 will be far above anything imo

Gothic 1-2, Arx Fatalis were some amazing RPGs with those perks too far back

Dragon Age is not generic like Obliivon, not linear and turn based like FFs and not juyst a loot game lie Diablo/Demon Soul

So, Dragon Age would be close to the ideal RPG

Fable 2 comes first though, since has all Dragon Age perks and a huge simulation aspect

Fable 3 will be far above anything imo

Gothic 1-2, Arx Fatalis were some amazing RPGs with those perks too far back

a_simple_gamer

Opinions i guess. Fable was Linear as hell for me.

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Dragon Age is not generic like Obliivon, not linear and turn based like FFs and not juyst a loot game lie Diablo/Demon Soul

So, Dragon Age would be close to the ideal RPG

Fable 2 comes first though, since has all Dragon Age perks and a huge simulation aspect

Fable 3 will be far above anything imo

Gothic 1-2, Arx Fatalis were some amazing RPGs with those perks too far back

thespywholied

Opinions i guess. Fable was Linear as hell for me.

It is between Fable 2 and Mass Effect 2 so far imo

Fable 3 will conquer anything i suppose

I dont get it, Fable is one of the less linear gamesi have ever played, you can go anywhere and do just about anything, even change the world

If you mean the story, well, all stories are linear, otherwise would not be stories but separate quests

As much as i enjoyed Fable 2, it was disgusting compared to the first one...

As much as i enjoyed Fable 2, it was disgusting compared to the first one...

DarthJohnova

In some ways it was, in some others was better

Fable 3 will be the best of both though, takes eberything the extra step that ws needed to be amazing

Fable 2 was a simulation/adventure/RPG, Fable 3 adds a strategy part with the ruling kingdoms and followers aspect, that was so much missing

Now is close to my dream RPG

tbh a few prime examples are pretty old now imo.Fallout 1 and 2 still hold their own against most modern day RPGs,also going back to last gen Morrowind isa prime example of why oblivion needed more depth in the sense of skills and character building.

Another one imo for the impact its had on pop culture and the whole gaming crowd at large whether you like it or not would be FFVII.

Also on the JRPG front Grandia deserves a notable mention it was so fun,didnt take itself overly serious and was a pure joy to play.I miss that game hurry up and give me a DL version on EU PSN :(

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As much as i enjoyed Fable 2, it was disgusting compared to the first one...

loadedboon

In some ways it was, in some others was better

Fable 3 will be the best of both though, takes eberything the extra step that ws needed to be amazing

Fable 2 was a simulation/adventure/RPG, Fable 3 adds a strategy part with the ruling kingdoms and followers aspect, that was so much missing

Now is close to my dream RPG

Calling Fable an RPG is just :lol:"

Calling Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2 not linear is just :lol:

go play a real PC RPG before you open your mouth and spill out nonsense

Fable would fit under The Elder Scrolls, they combine Action Adventure with RPG. In Fable; the player's skill plays a major role in what they do. In a true RPG all success and failure should be based on the skills of the character you're playing.Darsander

Fable isn't an RPG and neither is Oblivion they are just simplified console games which claim to be RPG games. If you want to see some real RPG's go play Never Winter Nights, Never Winter Nights 2, The Witcher, Baldurs Gate, Baldurs Gate 2, Eye Of The Beholder series, Might and Magic series (on the pc), Wizardy series, Lands Of Lore series, the old SSI rpg games.

THAT are RPG's!

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[QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

In some ways it was, in some others was better

Fable 3 will be the best of both though, takes eberything the extra step that ws needed to be amazing

Fable 2 was a simulation/adventure/RPG, Fable 3 adds a strategy part with the ruling kingdoms and followers aspect, that was so much missing

Now is close to my dream RPG

locopatho

Calling Fable an RPG is just :lol:"

Calling Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2 not linear is just :lol:

go play a real PC RPG before you open your mouth and spill out nonsense

It is non linear, like most WRPGsanyway

[QUOTE="Darsander"]Fable would fit under The Elder Scrolls, they combine Action Adventure with RPG. In Fable; the player's skill plays a major role in what they do. In a true RPG all success and failure should be based on the skills of the character you're playing.loadedboon

Fable isn't an RPG and neither is Oblivion they are just simplified console games which claim to be RPG games. If you want to see some real RPG's go play Never Winter Nights, Never Winter Nights 2, The Witcher, Baldurs Gate, Baldurs Gate 2, Eye Of The Beholder series, Might and Magic series (on the pc), Wizardy series, Lands Of Lore series, the old SSI rpg games.

THAT are RPG's!

[QUOTE="Darsander"]Fable would fit under The Elder Scrolls, they combine Action Adventure with RPG. In Fable; the player's skill plays a major role in what they do. In a true RPG all success and failure should be based on the skills of the character you're playing.loadedboon

Fable isn't an RPG and neither is Oblivion they are just simplified console games which claim to be RPG games. If you want to see some real RPG's go play Never Winter Nights, Never Winter Nights 2, The Witcher, Baldurs Gate, Baldurs Gate 2, Eye Of The Beholder series, Might and Magic series (on the pc), Wizardy series, Lands Of Lore series, the old SSI rpg games.

THAT are RPG's!

Funny, we like the same games, only i prefer far mroe the advanture/RPG style, so ilike Fable, Gothic and Lands of Lore more than Never Winter Nights or BG, which i also like much though

But since i like adventure/RPG more, is expected i would like Fable, Mass Effect etc more than those more heavy RPGs

BTW i have played all M&M old RPGs, they were some of my favourite, i dont know what category to put them on, they were not as heavy as BG

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[QUOTE="Darsander"]Fable would fit under The Elder Scrolls, they combine Action Adventure with RPG. In Fable; the player's skill plays a major role in what they do. In a true RPG all success and failure should be based on the skills of the character you're playing.locopatho

Fable isn't an RPG and neither is Oblivion they are just simplified console games which claim to be RPG games. If you want to see some real RPG's go play Never Winter Nights, Never Winter Nights 2, The Witcher, Baldurs Gate, Baldurs Gate 2, Eye Of The Beholder series, Might and Magic series (on the pc), Wizardy series, Lands Of Lore series, the old SSI rpg games.

THAT are RPG's!

In Fable2 you can actualyl affect the world by your choices, it is rather scripted, but is amazign to see happening anyway

the Prime example of an RPG in my opinon would be NeverWinter Nights 2. I'm not saying it's the best RPG,I certainly don't think so.

It includes everything i'd want in my perfect RPG.

Tons of quests.

A lot of choice

Lots of loot

Good story

Character creation tools, including sex and race.

Tons of varied character classes

Loads more i can't be arsed to list too.

FF all the way, i hate WRPGs. the worst FF game is better than the best WRPG imo.

Out of those I´d say DA,but overall probably something like BG2,PT or Ultima VII.

FF all the way, i hate WRPGs. the worst FF game is better than the best WRPG imo.

omho88

Arx Fatalis is alos one of my favourite old advanture/RPGs, just a dungeon, but a true RPG,far better even than Demon Soul imo, close to Ultima Underworld brilliance

FF all the way, i hate WRPGs. the worst FF game is better than the best WRPG imo.

omho88

Wow in the past few months 'Linear' really has become a gaming cliché...as soon as the reviewers learnt what it meant they pounced on it.

I really couldn't care less if something is 'linear' or not, if the gameplay is good and the story engrosses me then that's fine. I like variety of course and open world games are brilliant but being 'linear' isn't THAT dreadful, just not many games do it well.

Wow in the past few months 'Linear' really has become a gaming cliché...as soon as the reviewers learnt what it meant they pounced on it.

I really couldn't care less if something is 'linear' or not, if the gameplay is good and the story engrosses me then that's fine. I like variety of course and open world games are brilliant but being 'linear' isn't THAT dreadful, just not many games do it well.

DarthJohnova

Nethack, ToME, Crawl, Dwarf Fortress, and Zangband.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="loadedboon"]

Fable isn't an RPG and neither is Oblivion they are just simplified console games which claim to be RPG games. If you want to see some real RPG's go play Never Winter Nights, Never Winter Nights 2, The Witcher, Baldurs Gate, Baldurs Gate 2, Eye Of The Beholder series, Might and Magic series (on the pc), Wizardy series, Lands Of Lore series, the old SSI rpg games.

THAT are RPG's!

a_simple_gamer

In Fable2 you can actualyl affect the world by your choices, it is rather scripted, but is amazign to see happening anyway

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[QUOTE="locopatho"] Oblivion and Fable = create characetr, have epic adventure, do quests, customise skills and equipment, gain experience, level up, make choices, be good or evil, etc. They are RPGs.toast_burner

In Fable2 you can actualyl affect the world by your choices, it is rather scripted, but is amazign to see happening anyway

Better than do nothing, like in every other RPG

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In Fable2 you can actualyl affect the world by your choices, it is rather scripted, but is amazign to see happening anyway

a_simple_gamer

Better than do nothing, like in every other RPG

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In Fable2 you can actualyl affect the world by your choices, it is rather scripted, but is amazign to see happening anyway

Better than do nothing, like in every other RPG

Oblivion? :? The best prime examples of RPGs are the old PC isometrical RPGs from the 90s. Baldurs Gate, Planescape, Fallout 1 / 2. Those were true "beardy" RPGs, RPGs now days seem to be action games with customizable appearence main characters.

Dragon Age without a doubt, although it is an absolute fantastic game i couldn't help feeling a bit more geeky than usual when playing it :oops:

FF all the way, i hate WRPGs. the worst FF game is better than the best WRPG imo.

omho88

Oblivion? :? The best prime examples of RPGs are the old PC isometrical RPGs from the 90s. Baldurs Gate, Planescape, Fallout 1 / 2. Those were true "beardy" RPGs, RPGs now days seem to be action games with customizable appearence main characters.

WhenCicadasCry

Since you mention you like isometric rpg's from the 90's you should give Eschalon Book I and II a try both excellent old school rpg's (Book I is from 2007/8 and Book II is from 2009/10). Both excellent games with great depth to them.

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Oblivion? :? The best prime examples of RPGs are the old PC isometrical RPGs from the 90s. Baldurs Gate, Planescape, Fallout 1 / 2. Those were true "beardy" RPGs, RPGs now days seem to be action games with customizable appearence main characters.

loadedboon

Since you mention you like isometric rpg's from the 90's you should give Eschalon Book I and II a try both excellent old school rpg's (Book I is from 2007/8 and Book II is from 2009/10). Both excellent games with great depth to them.

Baldur's Gate is not on that list, therefore the poll fails.

Gothic 1-2 and Arx Fatalis are better than most

Baldur's Gate is not on that list, therefore it fails.

Vaasman

Indeed, Diablo is not even a real RPG imo

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Baldur's Gate is not on that list, therefore it fails.

a_simple_gamer

Indeed, Diablo is not even a real RPG imo

and neither are the Fable series, Oblivion, ME1, ME2 and most of the 99% so called rpg's on consoles.

Funny poll. I'd say Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines captures "role-playing" in its greatest essence. Fallout (1 & 2) being next after that. Though, none of them will ever match PNP RPG's.

final fantasy has clearly the biggest name but TES is the prime example of what i like in RPGs

Funny poll. I'd say Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines captures "role-playing" in its greatest essence. Fallout (1 & 2) being next after that. Though, none of them will ever match PNP RPG's.

foxhound_fox

It's not my number one RPG (still one of my all time favorites), but Fallout 2 is the best example of a videogame RPG.

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FF all the way, i hate WRPGs. the worst FF game is better than the best WRPG imo.

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Funny poll. I'd say Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines captures "role-playing" in its greatest essence. Fallout (1 & 2) being next after that. Though, none of them will ever match PNP RPG's.

jasonharris48

Is Bloodlines still being played online? If so I might install it again cause now you mentioned the game I have a strange itchy feeling to play it again :D

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FF all the way, i hate WRPGs. the worst FF game is better than the best WRPG imo.

omho88