Which PC dev sold out the most?

Only PC gamers can vote :D

I say Bethesda because the TES and Fallout series were kinda the epitome of hardcore PC RPGs prior to their "consolification".

Hmm so many choices hard to pick :cry:

This thread makes me sad. So many great franchises have been ruined over the years =(

Bioware, simply 'causeit hurt me the most.

I understand that perhaps they wanted to try something new, and not stick to DnD games but really ... EA have done nothing for them but, in my opinion, adversely effect the quality of their games. I loved Baldurs Gate, NWN, KOTOR, and even ME1, but their most recent titles no ME2 and DA2 have really left a lot to be desired. (Not so much ME2, 'cause it was great, but could have been even better)

Crytek suck too, Crysis 1 was superb, Crysis 2 was awful.

This thread makes me sad. So many great franchises have been ruined over the years =(

ReddestSkies

This thread makes me sad. So many great franchises have been ruined over the years =(

ReddestSkies

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This thread makes me sad. So many great franchises have been ruined over the years =(

Ravensmash

This is true. This has been an amazing gen for gamers. I hope the trend continues.

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This thread makes me sad. So many great franchises have been ruined over the years =(

IronBass

This is true. This has been an amazing gen for gamers. I hope the trend continues.

Yes ruined. Consolization is a serious problem, but thank goodness 9/10 the PC version is still the vastly superior version. Some people are just jealous that all they don't have a proper PC to play and some even go as far to try and play on gimped laptops not meant for gaming. I'm glad I have a proper PC that is capable of playing these games as the developers has envisioned. Heil68

Consolization is an amazing thing, so I'm happy : D

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Ruined? Or made more awesome? E.g. Oblivion, Fallout, and the upcoming Skyrim all look to be fantastic games. I mean Bioware made Mass Effect 2 - regardless of whether people are crying about genre or "dumbing down", it's a fantastic package imo and a great example of a highly polished game. And why are id on there? What have they done to harm pc gamers.Heil68

This is true. This has been an amazing gen for gamers. I hope the trend continues.

Seems the only arguement we have on here is ZOMG consolisation...if the games good who gives a flying turd.

Bioware madeBalders Gate and other great RPGs, this gen their biggest game is a shooter. Then when they make another goodRPG they dumb down the sequel and completely ruin it.

Epic made some of the best FPSs ever on PC, then made a console port while marketing it as a PC game, it didn't turn out as they wanted, and they did a full 180° and completely dismissed PC for years with constant trolling and flamebaiting.

Crytek made a superb PC game and claimed it should have had Halo sales while in fact very few people could run Crysis at the time it came out, it was pirated to hell and back and Crytek tried to "streamline" for a "wider audience" by totally raping everything that made the first game great. And no, it wasn't just graphics.

BioWare made another superb game that, while not even remotely as good as it could have been with more depth added (3 classes of which 2 share a crapton of abilities? really bioware?), was a very positive sign of a return of games that actually classify as "roleplay games"; then they too went ahead and did a full 180° trying to appeal to the CoD audience with some of the dumbest mechanics and narrative I've ever seen.

Bethesda, meh, major lol at them, this generation they just plain sucked. Their construction sets are very nice, but their engines are dreadfully clunky and horrible to look at, and their games are utter trash. I don't see them overly "selling out", they just plain suck.

I have no idea what id does there...

I'd say Epic is the worst for their ****ty attitude. At least Crytek admitted that the "change in direction" and "streamlining" didn't turn out as they had hoped.

Epic completely stopped making PC games and then called PC gamers pirates. Not a hard choice for me.

I voted for Bioware.

The jump from making PC-exclusive games (BG, NWN) to console-exclusive games (KOTOR, Jade Empire - or at least they were exclusive when they first came out) was more sudden and possibly more dramatic than the other devs on the list, and they've been making console-focused games ever since.

Well, Epic did the same, but wasn't there a massive gap between their last PC game and Gears of War?

Not seeing how id sold out here, aside from making a multiplat, which they've been doing for years. It's not like they rushed RAGE to completion.

I'd say CryTek hurt the most. They went from making the one FPS everyone's talked about this site for YEARS, to making a sequel just about any owner of any system can agree was underwhelming. DethSkematik

the only reason it was talked about on this site for years was only because of the graphics...not much else really

crysis 2 still looks damn good on PC...so they didn't really sell out that much IMO

Without a doubt it's Epic. They haven't made a PC game in years. Now they say they are moving back to the PC.

[QUOTE="Heil68"]Yes ruined. Consolization is a serious problem, but thank goodness 9/10 the PC version is still the vastly superior version. Some people are just jealous that all they don't have a proper PC to play and some even go as far to try and play on gimped laptops not meant for gaming. I'm glad I have a proper PC that is capable of playing these games as the developers has envisioned. IronBass

Consolization is an amazing thing, so I'm happy : D

yep, keep that consolization coming guys!

You can't blame everything on the dev, there are publishers of the games who wants the money to be made from consoles and when gamers demand a games like those "consolised" games like you what you said, they make it.

They just follow where the money goes.

the only reason it was talked about on this site for years was only because of the graphics...not much else really

crysis 2 still looks damn good on PC...so they didn't really sell out that much IMO

CDUB316

Is that the reason why it won best FPS award of 2007 beating CoD4, UT3 and Halo 3, and was universally acclaimed for its non linear gameplay approach? "Graphics"?

Bioware, simply 'causeit hurt me the most.

I understand that perhaps they wanted to try something new, and not stick to DnD games but really ... EA have done nothing for them but, in my opinion, adversely effect the quality of their games. I loved Baldurs Gate, NWN, KOTOR, and even ME1, but their most recent titles no ME2 and DA2 have really left a lot to be desired. (Not so much ME2, 'cause it was great, but could have been even better)

Crytek suck too, Crysis 1 was superb, Crysis 2 was awful.

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... BIoware didn't devlope Baldur's Gate.. KOTOR came out on consoles first and was ported over.. Neverwinter Nights is the only pc exclisive they made.. ME was originally a console game that was ported over.. I would think EPIC.. The pc was their main platofrm until they completely abandoned it out of the blue and began bashing it as a excuse for their poor sales for games like Unreal Tournament 3..

obviousy and easily EPIC! did everyone forget how hard they rode the microsoft train? all that nonsense about pc gaming dieing, pc gaming piracy being rampant, and all that "console sales" talk! they whored out big time compared to all the other devs on that list! now they "supposedly" wanna come back to pc. well they better try hard and go beyond excellence if they really wanna redeem themselves and gain pc gamers' respect back. porting over the rest of the gears franchise would be a good start once their contract with MS ends.

Epic define the term sellout

If you aren't choosing Epic then you're choosing the wrong developer for this discussion.

Bioware. Made Baldur´s gate 2 and Neverwinter Nights, now they make Shooters and dumbed down Rpgs

Epic without a doubt. They haven't developed a PC game for ages!!

PS - I still consider UT99 the best FPS ever. Such a pity and letdown by Epic! *shakes head*:evil:

trying to make money is selling out?

trying to make money is selling out?

Chris_Williams

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trying to make money is selling out?

harshv82

trying to make money is selling out?

Bioware sold out consoles worse.

KOTOR started as an Xbox exclsuive and sold most on Xbox.

Now KOTOR is a PC exclusive MMO catering to PC gamers, umadhopethisthrendcontinues.

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trying to make money is selling out?

Chris_Williams

Odd how there's so many PC exclusive games, and companies out there today.

I wonder how many devs develop exclusively for the PS3, or 360 that aren't owned by Sony, or MS?

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[QUOTE="harshv82"] Quitting completely on a platform is. Would you like if they stopped making Gears of War? (unless you have ps3)Ly_the_Fairy

Odd how there's so many PC exclusive games, and companies out there today.

I wonder how many devs develop exclusively for the PS3, or 360 that aren't owned by Sony, or MS?

Sucker Punch "Sly Cooper, Infamous 1 and 2.......before they were bought out by sony",

Insomina "Resistance, ratchet and clank, still aren't owned by Sony"

Ninja Theory "Heavenly Sword",

Quantic Dream " Heavy Rain, still aren't owned by Sony" also their developing another ps3 exclusive right now,

Media Molecule "little big planet, which they did and when they weren't owned by Sony"

Incognito "Warhawk, Starhawk, who still aren't owned by sony"

Sega "Yakuza, Valkyria Chronicles, still aren't owned by sony"

trying to make money is selling out?

Chris_Williams

Completely disregarding the fanbase that allowed you to be in a financially good position is.

Infinity Ward

they don't even talk about the PC versions of their games

I would say Valve, even though it's not on the list.

id software

Why in the world is id on this list?????

id has done more for pc gaming then every other developer on that list combined, and they have never pushed out anything rushed, half-done, or dumbed down. EVER.

By the way, Epic is the answer here. Epic has been trolling hermits for years now.

Epic and Crytek. Tough to choose between the two even though Epic abandoned PC a long time ago in quite awful fashion. I still have a bad taste left from Crysis 2 and the manner in which they way they went about treating the PC.

I haven't forgotten what Epic did though they definitely as someone put it define the term sellout.

I choose Epic.

Why in the world is id on this list?????

id has done more for pc gaming then every other developer on that list combined, and they have never pushed out anything rushed, half-done, or dumbed down. EVER.

By the way, Epic is the answer here. Epic has been trolling hermits for years now.

evilross

Exactly my thoughts.

Not that I am shrieking "consoluzashiun!!!" all over the place; this so-called "gen" actually brought me back to 80% PC gaming.... Too many awesome games on that platfom to play anything else, really (besides my beloved Nintendo classics).

Still, it is a pity that some valuable franchises' quality went down the drain... But it's more a problem of "streamlining" (=catering to the smallest common denominator in hope of huge sales) than "consolization". I'm sure many console gamers (like me) also hate it when gameplay and game depth takes a hit...

ok a dev never sells out wanna know why their a buisness they are in it to make money, not appease fanboys.

They go where the money is regardless of how some silly fanboy on the internet see's them.Its a simple choice profit or go broke.Regardless of how so many of you see otherwise Dev's are just like any other company involved in the industry in it to make money and a good product aimed at the demograph they are targeting.

So what "x" dev moves platform because they can make more money there, thats just simple economics of maximising profits.