When will handheld gaming devices have 720p screens?

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#1 slipknot0129
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When do you think there will be handheld gaming devices that have 720p res screens? I hope within 5 years.
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#2 cowgriller
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probably never. the screens are too small to take advantage of 720p or higher. the best res for a handheld is 800 x 480.

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#3 SpiritOfFire117
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Ah yes I can imagine walking around with a miniature HDTV in my hands. :roll:
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#4 darth-pyschosis
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720p seems like overkill but there are smartphones with 840x480

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#5 SakusEnvoy
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Er, never. We're just barely fitting 720p inside 10" netbooks, and it hurts a lot of people's eyes.

Also, 720p will continue to be the sweet spot for gaming on consoles for a long time to come. Most TVs sold under 32" are 720p and it will stay that way for the forseeable future...

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#6 Blue-Sky
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High definition on handhelds are based on the screen's size. A 480 x 270 res on a 3 inch screen is quite similar to 720p on a 17 inch screen.

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#7 cliff122316
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yeah this one wont happen for a long time. it just isnt necessary for what the benefits would be
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#8 Nidget
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it just isnt necessary for what the benefits would becliff122316
Which leads me to believe Sony will probably do it .... or at least release a handheld claiming to do it :roll: Probably shove a blu ray drive with sixaxis in there too
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#9 salxis
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[QUOTE="cliff122316"] it just isnt necessary for what the benefits would beNidget
Which leads me to believe Sony will probably do it .... or at least release a handheld claiming to do it :roll: Probably shove a blu ray drive with sixaxis in there too

Add in bouncy boob physics = They win
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#10 Pixel-Pirate
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I know absolutely nothing about "780p" and "1080p" and "Igottap"....

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#11 killab2oo5
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I know absolutely nothing about "780p" and "1080p" and "Igottap"....

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It's the number of those teeny-tiny squares on your TV screen.
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#12 PBSnipes
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Maybe in the future we'll be making crazy screens with ridiculous resolutions but as things stand now, never. Handheld screens are too small for 720p to produce any appreciable difference.

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#13 TBoogy
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High definition on handhelds are based on the screen's size. A 480 x 270 res on a 3 inch screen is quite similar to 720p on a 17 inch screen.

Blue-Sky

Exactly this.

In fact, so far movies from PSN look better on my PSP than 720p movies do on my Netbook (even with my 720p glossy black screen). The PSP always amazed me for movies.

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#14 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

I know absolutely nothing about "780p" and "1080p" and "Igottap"....

killab2oo5

It's the number of those teeny-tiny squares on your TV screen.

Ohhhhhhh!

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#15 bobbetybob
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Considering that most games on 360 and PS3 run at 720p, I'd say quite a long time.
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[QUOTE="Nidget"][QUOTE="cliff122316"] it just isnt necessary for what the benefits would besalxis

Which leads me to believe Sony will probably do it .... or at least release a handheld claiming to do it :roll: Probably shove a blu ray drive with sixaxis in there too

Add in bouncy boob physics = They win

Fail.

@slipknot0129: Anyway, that won't happen. The screens are too small to get 720p. Maybe the quality of 720p will come around in about ten years or so for handhelds, but other than that, I don't know.

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#17 fail_baby
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That's far beyond the threshold of visibility. The system would be eating up VRAM and processor power to render details that you wouldn't even be able to see. Small screens are best with Sub-HD resolutions.

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#18 adamosmaki
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Well for the screen of a handheld 720p is to much but there are phones like nokia N82 and N97 that support Tv out so 720p would be useful
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#19 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Doesn't the Zune HD have 720p?
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#20 anotherone10
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probably never. the screens are too small to take advantage of 720p or higher. the best res for a handheld is 800 x 480.

cowgriller

This^^. For example, if handheld "A" had a resolution of800 x 480 and handheld "B" had a resolution of 1280 x 720, you wouldn't really see much of a difference because the screens are usually around 4.3", which as said above is too small to take advantage of 720p.

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#21 cowgriller
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Doesn't the Zune HD have 720p?Stevo_the_gamer

no. the zune hd has a screen resolution of 480 x 272 (the same as on the psp). the zune hd is capable of outputting a 720p image to an hdtv provided the user purchases a $90 dock. it also allows the zune hd to output dolby digital 5.1 through a toslink cable (optical) whereas the headphone jack only outputs stereo ( 2.0 ).

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#22 whatisazerg
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Never... what would be the point of 720p on a screen approx. 5 inches big?

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#23 ChiSoxBombers
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[QUOTE="cliff122316"] it just isnt necessary for what the benefits would beNidget
Which leads me to believe Sony will probably do it .... or at least release a handheld claiming to do it :roll: Probably shove a blu ray drive with sixaxis in there too

all for a reasonable $850

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#24 whatisazerg
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Doesn't the Zune HD have 720p?cowgriller

no. the zune hd has a screen resolution of 480 x 272 (the same as on the psp). the zune hd is capable of outputting a 720p image to an hdtv provided the user purchases a $90 dock. it also allows the zune hd to output dolby digital 5.1 through a toslink cable (optical) whereas the headphone jack only outputs stereo ( 2.0 ).

lol... because you have a 5.1 surround sound portable sound system to carry with you to Starbucks?

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#25 imprezawrx500
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you want a laptop sized handheld? psp's screen has about the same res per inch as 720p - 1080p
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#26 roddollente
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it only took us 20 years or so to go from 8-bit to 1080p. go figure.

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#27 FunkyHeadHunter
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probably never. the screens are too small to take advantage of 720p or higher. the best res for a handheld is 800 x 480.

cowgriller

^^^^THIS^^^^

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#28 cowgriller
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[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Doesn't the Zune HD have 720p?whatisazerg

no. the zune hd has a screen resolution of 480 x 272 (the same as on the psp). the zune hd is capable of outputting a 720p image to an hdtv provided the user purchases a $90 dock. it also allows the zune hd to output dolby digital 5.1 through a toslink cable (optical) whereas the headphone jack only outputs stereo ( 2.0 ).

lol... because you have a 5.1 surround sound portable sound system to carry with you to Starbucks?

no but there are headphones that have 6 channels (5.1) and there are plenty of songs and albums recorded in surround sound. but the 5.1 output is to listen to surround sound audio tracks from HD movies when you hook the zune up to a tv.

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#29 cowgriller
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it only took us 20 years or so to go from 8-bit to 1080p. go figure.

roddollente

ironically, the screen resolutions for hdtv's have existed for 30 years, as did lcd's and hdtv's have been on the market since 1997. hdtv's and their resolutions were invented long before any technology was created to take advantage of them.

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#30 thelastguy
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It definitely will happen, no idea when though

Some of you underestimate technological advancements in the next 10 years

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#31 cowgriller
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It definitely will happen, no idea when though

Some of you underestimate technological advancements in the next 10 years

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it's not about underestimating advancements in technology, it's about usefulness. just because you can do something doesn't necessarily mean you should.

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#32 foxhound_fox
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Many Japanese cell-phones already have HD resolution screens. However, they also cost $400-500.

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#33 hashabnelah
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[QUOTE="roddollente"]

it only took us 20 years or so to go from 8-bit to 1080p. go figure.

cowgriller

ironically, the screen resolutions for hdtv's have existed for 30 years, as did lcd's and hdtv's have been on the market since 1997. hdtv's and their resolutions were invented long before any technology was created to take advantage of them.

Correct. Before the existence of NTSC and PAL, there were experiments on higher television resolutions during the waning days of World War II. However, due to technical limitations, these resolutions were not practical until the last few decades.

One have to remember: something may be advanced and impractical today, but it may be practical in the future. I predict in the next ten to twenty years that there will be a handheld system with 720p or HD-quality screens that will be affordable.

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#34 coolkid93
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probably never. the screens are too small to take advantage of 720p or higher. the best res for a handheld is 800 x 480.

cowgriller
I was going to say that but you beat me to the punch. :P To high for those little screens.
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#35 topgunmv
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probably never. the screens are too small to take advantage of 720p or higher. the best res for a handheld is 800 x 480.

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Zune HD

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#36 cowgriller
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[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

probably never. the screens are too small to take advantage of 720p or higher. the best res for a handheld is 800 x 480.

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Zune HD

self owned.

had you read the entire thread, you would have seen that i already explained this. the zune hd only has a screen resolution of 480 x 272. it can output a 720p signal to an hdtv provided you buy the $80 th dock. that is the only way to get hd out of it. you could view "hd" videos on the device itself but the the tegra chip downscales it to 480 x 272.

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#37 cowgriller
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[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

[QUOTE="roddollente"]

it only took us 20 years or so to go from 8-bit to 1080p. go figure.

hashabnelah

ironically, the screen resolutions for hdtv's have existed for 30 years, as did lcd's and hdtv's have been on the market since 1997. hdtv's and their resolutions were invented long before any technology was created to take advantage of them.

Correct. Before the existence of NTSC and PAL, there were experiments on higher television resolutions during the waning days of World War II. However, due to technical limitations, these resolutions were not practical until the last few decades.

One have to remember: something may be advanced and impractical today, but it may be practical in the future. I predict in the next ten to twenty years that there will be a handheld system with 720p or HD-quality screens that will be affordable.

personally, the only way i see high res small screens being useful is it the screen were also auto-stereoscopic. it would lend to the realism of the 3d effect.

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#38 789shadow
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Definitely not in the forseeable future.

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#39 Meowmixxvi
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lmfao thats a huge handheld
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#40 CPM_basic
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probably never. the screens are too small to take advantage of 720p or higher. the best res for a handheld is 800 x 480.

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This guy knows what he is talking about. The screens are just too small to notice a difference between SD and HD material.
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#41 johnny27
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will peak at 800x480 like on the archos series pmp and certian phones.
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#42 kentaro22
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If less than 4", then what's the point of 720p? 800 x 480 is good enough for that size. What we really need is handhelds with lots of battery time, good viewing angles, bright fast response screen. I think 720p could be good for an 7" or larger tablet / netbook.