when whas the last time a RTS game whas GOTY ?

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#1 whoody12
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just wondering, becouse I give World in Conflict a good change, since Halo has been cursed of never being GOTY
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#2 turgore
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World in COnflict isn't a true RTS...
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World in COnflict isn't a true RTS...turgore

top-view controlling air/land units, while trying to out smart the enemy sounds like a RTS to me

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Last RTS game of the year was Warcraft 3 I believe.
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World in COnflict isn't a true RTS...turgore
Yes it is, it just isn't the typical RTS game.
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I can see WiC getting in the running for GOTY, but not sure it will win

[QUOTE="turgore"]World in COnflict isn't a true RTS...whoody12

top-view controlling air/land units, while trying to out smart the enemy sounds like a RTS to me

He might be talking about how there is no dirt farming or base building.

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[QUOTE="turgore"]World in COnflict isn't a true RTS...whoody12

top-view controlling air/land units, while trying to out smart the enemy sounds like a RTS to me

"World in Conflict is an action game masquerading as an RTS" . That's what the reviewer said . You don't have to build stuff and build an economy so it's not the traditional RTS.

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Warcraft 3.
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[QUOTE="whoody12"]

[QUOTE="turgore"]World in COnflict isn't a true RTS...turgore

top-view controlling air/land units, while trying to out smart the enemy sounds like a RTS to me

"World in Conflict is an action game masquerading as an RTS" . That's what the reviewer said . You don't have to build stuff and build an economy so it's not the traditional RTS.

It is not traditional, but it is still a RTS game.
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Last RTS game of the year was Warcraft 3 I believe.Frostbite24

Nah, Metroid Prime won it that year. At least on GS.

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since SC but SC 2 migh change that next yea....... oh wat next year is 08 console year again forget it. not for now.
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Warcraft 3.Sir-Marwin105

nice to hear, Warcraft 3 whas a great game

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since SC but SC 2 migh change that next yea....... oh wat next year is 08 console year again forget it. not for now.amorbis1001

everything can flop, even MGS4 ( not even saying KZ2, becouse I KNOW it will flop)

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Here's a list of gamespot's GOTYs, straight from wikipedia:

1996: Diablo (PC)

1997: Total Annihilation (PC)

1998: Grim Fandango (PC)

1999: EverQuest (PC)

2000: The Sims (PC) and Chrono Cross (PS)

2001: Serious Sam: The First Encounter (PC) and Grand Theft Auto III (PS2)

2002: Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos (PC) and Metroid Prime (GameCube)

2003: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (GameCube)

2004: World of Warcraft (PC)

2005: Resident Evil 4 (GameCube)

2006: Gears of War (Xbox 360)

So, the answer to your question is 2002, with Warcraft III

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[QUOTE="amorbis1001"]since SC but SC 2 migh change that next yea....... oh wat next year is 08 console year again forget it. not for now.whoody12

everything can flop, even MGS4 ( not even saying KZ2, becouse I KNOW it will flop)

yeah I hae a bad feeling killzone 2 will get an 8. but I thought MGs4 will and if it does their is resident evil 5 and if that flops there is FF13 and if that flops there is NG2 and if that flops.... well u kno wat i mean.

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[QUOTE="whoody12"]

[QUOTE="turgore"]World in COnflict isn't a true RTS...turgore

top-view controlling air/land units, while trying to out smart the enemy sounds like a RTS to me

"World in Conflict is an action game masquerading as an RTS" . That's what the reviewer said . You don't have to build stuff and build an economy so it's not the traditional RTS.

Real - Time - Strategy...

Think about the words within that acronym. A RTS is a strategy game where units are controlled in real time. It doesn't say anything about economy, base building or even the amount of action within the game. The fact is that WiC is a RTS and it fits the RTS definition.

Stop living in a box. I guess Dawn of War is not an RTS either since there is no "economy" (AKA Gold, Crystals, Gas, whatever) am I right? Doesn't make sense to buy troops with Strategic Points, am I right?

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Here's a list of gamespot's GOTYs, straight from wikipedia:

1996: Diablo (PC)

1997: Total Annihilation (PC)

1998: Grim Fandango (PC)

1999: EverQuest (PC)

2000: The Sims (PC) and Chrono Cross (PS)

2001: Serious Sam: The First Encounter (PC) and Grand Theft Auto III (PS2)

2002: Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos (PC) and Metroid Prime (GameCube)

2003: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (GameCube)

2004: World of Warcraft (PC)

2005: Resident Evil 4 (GameCube)

2006: Gears of War (Xbox 360)

So, the answer to your question is 2002, with Warcraft III

GunSmith1_basic

lol serious sam over halo 1. THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!

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[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]

Here's a list of gamespot's GOTYs, straight from wikipedia:

1996: Diablo (PC)

1997: Total Annihilation (PC)

1998: Grim Fandango (PC)

1999: EverQuest (PC)

2000: The Sims (PC) and Chrono Cross (PS)

2001: Serious Sam: The First Encounter (PC) and Grand Theft Auto III (PS2)

2002: Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos (PC) and Metroid Prime (GameCube)

2003: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (GameCube)

2004: World of Warcraft (PC)

2005: Resident Evil 4 (GameCube)

2006: Gears of War (Xbox 360)

So, the answer to your question is 2002, with Warcraft III

amorbis1001

lol serious sam over halo 1. THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!

Actually its not. Serious Sam is amazing.
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[QUOTE="turgore"][QUOTE="whoody12"]

[QUOTE="turgore"]World in COnflict isn't a true RTS...Redmoonxl2

top-view controlling air/land units, while trying to out smart the enemy sounds like a RTS to me

"World in Conflict is an action game masquerading as an RTS" . That's what the reviewer said . You don't have to build stuff and build an economy so it's not the traditional RTS.

Real - Time - Strategy...

Think about the words within that acronym. A RTS is a strategy game where units are controlled in real time. It doesn't say anything about economy, base building or even the amount of action within the game. The fact is that WiC is a RTS and it fits the RTS definition.

Stop living in a box. I guess Dawn of War is not an RTS either since there is no "economy" (AKA Gold, Crystals, Gas, whatever) am I right? Doesn't make sense to buy troops with Strategic Points, am I right?

Notice I said "true" RTS and I meant traditional.

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lol serious sam over halo 1. THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!amorbis1001

Seriou Sam was PC GOTY in 2001. They had seperate awards back then but it did beat a lot of other great games including Civ 3 and RTCW.

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Rise of Nations FTW
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[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="turgore"][QUOTE="whoody12"]

[QUOTE="turgore"]World in COnflict isn't a true RTS...turgore

top-view controlling air/land units, while trying to out smart the enemy sounds like a RTS to me

"World in Conflict is an action game masquerading as an RTS" . That's what the reviewer said . You don't have to build stuff and build an economy so it's not the traditional RTS.

Real - Time - Strategy...

Think about the words within that acronym. A RTS is a strategy game where units are controlled in real time. It doesn't say anything about economy, base building or even the amount of action within the game. The fact is that WiC is a RTS and it fits the RTS definition.

Stop living in a box. I guess Dawn of War is not an RTS either since there is no "economy" (AKA Gold, Crystals, Gas, whatever) am I right? Doesn't make sense to buy troops with Strategic Points, am I right?

Notice I said "true" RTS and I meant traditional.

Well there is a big difference between "true" and "traditional". And if you really meant traditional your first post would be irrelevant.
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Actually its not. Serious Sam is amazing.

I never played a serious sam game but I do kno it is pointless shooting. shoot every thing that moves.

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[QUOTE="amorbis1001"]lol serious sam over halo 1. THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!Paktahn

Seriou Sam was PC GOTY in 2001. They had seperate awards back then but it did beat a lot of other great games including Civ 3 and RTCW.

I just notice every game in the 90s were pc goty but then they split it and the joined it all again I guess console hve notw caught up the PC gamming.

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#25 Paktahn
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Before I played Halo 3 I would have been happy with C&C3 getting GOTY. World in Conflict has a real chance but it doesn't look like it's my type of game. I wouldn't mind it winning though, it's more of a sleeper hit then Halo 3 (understatement :lol: ) and I enjoy seeing the underdogs win.
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Notice I said "true" RTS and I meant traditional.

turgore

"Traditional" RTS games (In your view) only existed since Dune 2. There were plenty of RTS games that diverge from the regular Resource Gathering/Base Building formula, you know.

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amorbis1001

Actually its not. Serious Sam is amazing.

I never played a serious sam game but I do kno it is pointless shooting. shoot every thing that moves.

Yep thats why its so good. It really reminds me of Halo 3.
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#28 Redmoonxl2
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[QUOTE="turgore"]

Notice I said "true" RTS and I meant traditional.

smokeydabear076

Well there is a big difference between "true" and "traditional". And if you really meant traditional your first post would be irrelevant.

Bingo.

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[QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]

Here's a list of gamespot's GOTYs, straight from wikipedia:

1996: Diablo (PC)

1997: Total Annihilation (PC)

1998: Grim Fandango (PC)

1999: EverQuest (PC)

2000: The Sims (PC) and Chrono Cross (PS)

2001: Serious Sam: The First Encounter (PC) and Grand Theft Auto III (PS2)

2002: Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos (PC) and Metroid Prime (GameCube)

2003: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (GameCube)

2004: World of Warcraft (PC)

2005: Resident Evil 4 (GameCube)

2006: Gears of War (Xbox 360)

So, the answer to your question is 2002, with Warcraft III

smokeydabear076

lol serious sam over halo 1. THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!

Actually its not. Serious Sam is amazing.

grim fantango over OoT? now thats madness...

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#30 amorbis1001
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[QUOTE="amorbis1001"]

smokeydabear076

Actually its not. Serious Sam is amazing.

I never played a serious sam game but I do kno it is pointless shooting. shoot every thing that moves.

Yep thats why its so good. It really reminds me of Halo 3.

that was funny, but you could say that for every shooter, half life 2 and 1 was pointless shooting, shoot everythinh that moves. every shooter is pointless that means. :|

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note the dominance of the gamecube (MP, RE4, WW)over ps2 (GTA III) and xbox (....)

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#32 amorbis1001
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]

Here's a list of gamespot's GOTYs, straight from wikipedia:

1996: Diablo (PC)

1997: Total Annihilation (PC)

1998: Grim Fandango (PC)

1999: EverQuest (PC)

2000: The Sims (PC) and Chrono Cross (PS)

2001: Serious Sam: The First Encounter (PC) and Grand Theft Auto III (PS2)

2002: Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos (PC) and Metroid Prime (GameCube)

2003: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (GameCube)

2004: World of Warcraft (PC)

2005: Resident Evil 4 (GameCube)

2006: Gears of War (Xbox 360)

So, the answer to your question is 2002, with Warcraft III

nintendoman562

lol serious sam over halo 1. THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!

Actually its not. Serious Sam is amazing.

grim fantango over OoT? now thats madness...

wtf I just noticed that. THIIS IS GAMESPOT!!!!!!!.

lol always wanted to do that.

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#33 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="amorbis1001"]

amorbis1001

Actually its not. Serious Sam is amazing.

I never played a serious sam game but I do kno it is pointless shooting. shoot every thing that moves.

Yep thats why its so good. It really reminds me of Halo 3.

that was funny, but you could say that for every shooter, half life 2 and 1 was pointless shooting, shoot everythinh that moves. every shooter is pointless that means. :|

It really does remind me of Halo 3 more so then other shooters with its competitive co-op and things like that.
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[QUOTE="nintendoman562"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]

Here's a list of gamespot's GOTYs, straight from wikipedia:

1996: Diablo (PC)

1997: Total Annihilation (PC)

1998: Grim Fandango (PC)

1999: EverQuest (PC)

2000: The Sims (PC) and Chrono Cross (PS)

2001: Serious Sam: The First Encounter (PC) and Grand Theft Auto III (PS2)

2002: Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos (PC) and Metroid Prime (GameCube)

2003: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (GameCube)

2004: World of Warcraft (PC)

2005: Resident Evil 4 (GameCube)

2006: Gears of War (Xbox 360)

So, the answer to your question is 2002, with Warcraft III

amorbis1001

lol serious sam over halo 1. THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!

Actually its not. Serious Sam is amazing.

grim fantango over OoT? now thats madness...

wtf I just noticed that. THIIS IS GAMESPOT!!!!!!!.

lol always wanted to do that.

I know, Gamespot giving GOTY to the game that actually deserves it? WTF!

Seriously, Grim Fandango is like the best game out there.

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that game is my favorite RTS ever. Im not a huge RTS fan, but I still like the games
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[QUOTE="whoody12"]

[QUOTE="turgore"]World in COnflict isn't a true RTS...turgore

top-view controlling air/land units, while trying to out smart the enemy sounds like a RTS to me

"World in Conflict is an action game masquerading as an RTS" . That's what the reviewer said . You don't have to build stuff and build an economy so it's not the traditional RTS.

it requires strategy and its real time

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#37 amorbis1001
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[QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="amorbis1001"]

smokeydabear076

Actually its not. Serious Sam is amazing.

I never played a serious sam game but I do kno it is pointless shooting. shoot every thing that moves.

Yep thats why its so good. It really reminds me of Halo 3.

that was funny, but you could say that for every shooter, half life 2 and 1 was pointless shooting, shoot everythinh that moves. every shooter is pointless that means. :|

It really does remind me of Halo 3 more so then other shooters with its competitive co-op and things like that.

So now cuz it got coop it is pointless. heck i dont care if halo halflife gears of war or serious sam is pointless video games are based on fun factor and the more fun the better even if the fun is pointless shooting creatures more that the other guy in coop.

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I know, Gamespot giving GOTY to the game that actually deserves it? WTF!

Seriously, Grim Fandango is like the best game out there.

ArcticSnake

I would argue that Starcraft is better and I'm pretty shocked it didn't at least tie Grim Fandango for GOTY.

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#39 naval
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I know, Gamespot giving GOTY to the game that actually deserves it? WTF!

Seriously, Grim Fandango is like the best game out there.

ArcticSnake

woah, total agreement here

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#40 naval
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[QUOTE="ArcticSnake"]

I know, Gamespot giving GOTY to the game that actually deserves it? WTF!

Seriously, Grim Fandango is like the best game out there.

Redmoonxl2

I would argue that Starcraft is better and I'm pretty shocked it didn't at least tie Grim Fandango for GOTY.

i loved starcraft and HL, but grim fadango was quite unique and all three of these games deserve GOTY equally, but only one of them could be chosen

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#41 amorbis1001
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[QUOTE="ArcticSnake"]

I know, Gamespot giving GOTY to the game that actually deserves it? WTF!

Seriously, Grim Fandango is like the best game out there.

naval

woah, total agreement here

omg have never even heard of grim fandango up until now. I guess I need to play it huh. but wat I dont understand is, SC and ZOLoot was well just perfectand didn't get goty, so is fandango really better than SC and Zoot i want to play it but I believe I wont get into it as is seems too olnd and boring, although I did get into SC last year.

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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="amorbis1001"]

amorbis1001

Actually its not. Serious Sam is amazing.

I never played a serious sam game but I do kno it is pointless shooting. shoot every thing that moves.

Yep thats why its so good. It really reminds me of Halo 3.

that was funny, but you could say that for every shooter, half life 2 and 1 was pointless shooting, shoot everythinh that moves. every shooter is pointless that means. :|

It really does remind me of Halo 3 more so then other shooters with its competitive co-op and things like that.

So now cuz it got coop it is pointless. heck i dont care if halo halflife gears of war or serious sam is pointless video games are based on fun factor and the more fun the better even if the fun is pointless shooting creatures more that the other guy in coop.

Exactly my point Serious Sam and Halo 3 are fun. For some reason I am under the impression that you have a problem with that.
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#43 naval
Member since 2003 • 11108 Posts
[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="ArcticSnake"]

I know, Gamespot giving GOTY to the game that actually deserves it? WTF!

Seriously, Grim Fandango is like the best game out there.

amorbis1001

woah, total agreement here

omg have never even heard of grim fandango up until now. I guess I need to play it huh. but wat I dont understand is, SC and ZOLoot was well just perfectand didn't get goty, so is fandango really better than SC and Zoot i want to play it but I believe I wont get into it as is seems too olnd and boring, although I did get into SC last year.

actually it got goty over starcraft and hl. zoot got console goty i think. i would not say its better that these games, but it did deserved the award. if it was me i would have give hl,starcraft and grim fadango goty combines. if you lie adventure ( different from action adevture) then grim fadango is a definite play

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#45 Redmoonxl2
Member since 2003 • 11059 Posts
[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="ArcticSnake"]

I know, Gamespot giving GOTY to the game that actually deserves it? WTF!

Seriously, Grim Fandango is like the best game out there.

naval

I would argue that Starcraft is better and I'm pretty shocked it didn't at least tie Grim Fandango for GOTY.

i loved starcraft and HL, but grim fadango was quite unique and all three of these games deserve GOTY equally, but only one of them could be chosen

Being unique should only be a major factor if it contributes to the gameplay. Personally, I found more enjoyment in the long run with Starcraft and Half Life than Grim Fandango. This is not to diminish GF as a game, however.

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#46 smokeydabear076
Member since 2004 • 22109 Posts

HUH :o problem with serious sam being fun..no problem with serious sam getting higher than halo pointless shooting fun yeah. but I cant change anything so I I just use gameranking to see wat game are goty instead of GS. gameranking is right on the spot correct when it comes down to decisions.

amorbis1001
Well you are just being ignorant.:| You haven't played the game.
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#47 pugmonkey9999
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Oh god, Spelling and Grammar cringe at this thread.
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#48 GunSmith1_basic
Member since 2002 • 10548 Posts

I know, Gamespot giving GOTY to the game that actually deserves it? WTF!

Seriously, Grim Fandango is like the best game out there.

ArcticSnake

bear in mind that if console games were eligible for GOTY back then OoT would have crushed that game. In fact, if it was a united list from year one, the GOTY list might look something like this:

1996- Super Mario 64

1997-Goldeneye or Final Fantasy 7 (cant decide)

1998-Ocarina of Time

1999- Everquest

2000- The Sims

2001-Grand Theft Auto III

2002-Metroid Prime

2003- Wind Waker

2004-Warcraft

2005-RE4

2006-Gears of War

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#49 whoody12
Member since 2004 • 4717 Posts

Oh god, Spelling and Grammar cringe at this thread.pugmonkey9999

tss, im not at school, why should I use proper english ?

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#50 amorbis1001
Member since 2007 • 2281 Posts
[QUOTE="amorbis1001"]

HUH :o problem with serious sam being fun..no problem with serious sam getting higher than halo pointless shooting fun yeah. but I cant change anything so I I just use gameranking to see wat game are goty instead of GS. gameranking is right on the spot correct when it comes down to decisions.

smokeydabear076

Well your just being ignorant.:| You haven't played the game.

omg now your calling me ignorant cuz I havent played the game. I saw the videos of the game and it was the samee thing over and over, thats why I first called it pointless, but then it reminded me of painkiller. ok as you wish you want me to say serious sam is better than halo. ok let me go with GS and say serious sam is better than halo.you happy now.