when did 8.5 become a terrible rating?

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#1 youngmurk911
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ive been seeing lately that alot of games have been getting 8.5's, but those are way higher than average scores....every time i see a 8 or a 8.5 I see the word flopped tossed around. Even a 7 or 7.5 is a decent score

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#2 cain006
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A flop just means it didn't mean the hype, not the quality of the game.

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#3 Slashless
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When the game became an exclusive or was hyped to hell.

I honestly don't care, two of my favorite games this gen are 7.5 titles :o

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#4 Willy105
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In reality: The US school grading system has infected the way kids consider game scores. In SW reality: Because that's the scores Wii games get.
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#5 peterw007
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On System Wars:

10 - Perfect game

9.5 - Fantastic game

9.0 - Great game

8.5 - Good game

8.0 - Average game

7.5 - Meh game

7.0 - Poor game

6.5 - Bad game

Lower than 6.5 - Horrible game

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#6 mrmusicman247
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Yesterday.
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#7 Jolt_counter119
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9's used to be tossed around to good games so easily that the second a hyped up game get's less it's just a flop man. Yeah it's a good score (better now than ever with GS's higher standards lately) but still if Skyrim gets AA the threads will blow up.

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#8 SaltyMeatballs
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Flop doesn't mean bad game. End of thread.
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#9 dercoo
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When GS started getting lazy and just gave every other game it, instead of being more bold with an 8 or 9

Its worse than 9GN

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#10 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Willy105"] In SW reality: Because that's the scores Wii games get.

What a stretch. :lol:
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#11 casharmy
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PS3 launched with resistance fall of man 8.6 here on GS but all lemmings said "PS3 aint got no games" and that all of it's games were terrible because they were not AAA, so I guess in 2006 when lemmings tried to trash sony fans and the Ps3 by saying that none of it's games were any good because they were not AAA simply because the xbox360 had 1 or 2 AAAe exclusives.

Ironically lemmings said that cows couldn't use mutiplats as refrence to their library *being that Oblivion was AAA on PS3 as well* and would destroy the whole no games montra

my how things have changed.

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my sig.
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#13 TrapJak
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On System Wars:

10 - Perfect game

9.5 - Fantastic game

9.0 - Good Game

8.5 - OK game

8.0 - Meh game

7.5 or lower - Not Even Worth Playing

peterw007

Fixed. :lol:

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#14 WyteCollaCrim
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It isn't a terrible rating. BF3 was expected to get a 10, it didn't, so BF3 got the terribler ating, if a game is hyped to get 8.5, then it's a good rating. But BF3 flopped.
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#15 Diviniuz
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Since people seem to assume that a lot of games getting 8.5 makes those games average thus terrible. Combine that with Hype and all of a sudden 8.5 becomes 2/10

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#16 15strong
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For some stupid reason, we here like to judge the quality of a game on previous expectations. Yes, I know what your thinking, it makes no sense.

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#17 Heil68
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When PS3 games got them, then they became ok when flopza4 got one.
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#18 dercoo
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For some stupid reason, we here like to judge the quality of a game on previous expectations & 1 reviewer's opinion. Yes, I know what your thinking, it makes no sense.

15strong

fixed for truth

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#19 Ragnarok1051
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When PS3 games got them, then they became ok when flopza4 got one.Heil68
That's also a stretch.
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#20 xsubtownerx
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When reviewers decided to give them away.. I miss the old days. :/
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#21 15strong
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[QUOTE="15strong"]

For some stupid reason, we here like to judge the quality of a game on previous expectations & 1 reviewer's opinion. Yes, I know what your thinking, it makes no sense.

dercoo

fixed for truth

Way to sum up everything wrong with system wars in one sentence.

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#22 Tezcatlipoca666
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it isn't a terrible rating but SW jumps all over it because it allows them to disparage a game for the "other" system

basically.. fanboys will be fanboys

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#23 foxhound_fox
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A flop just means it didn't mean the hype, not the quality of the game.cain006
Indeed. Even though some people tend to think this way, most (sane) people tend to view anything below a 5 "bad." Though, it doesn't help when Gamespot barely exercises their system below 7.0. Based on the whole "bell curve" ideal, the majority of games should be scoring in the 6.5-7.5 range.
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#24 Darth_DuMas
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It's strange, it's a good score, but the associated reviews seem negative when they talk about those games.

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#25 commander
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8.5 is not a bad rating ,that's a very good game It's just if you were expecting 9 , 9.5 or 10 Well then 8.5 isn't very good. So let's hope sky rim don't gets an 8.5 I know battlefield 3 gets 8.5 but that's normal, it's more of the same , I wonder what call of duty will get , they manage to always score 9+ rating (apart from world at war, that was an 8.5)
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#26 fluffy_kins
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Depends on the game. If there are high expectations, an 8.5 can be disappointing. It's like a really hyped up game getting a B instead of the A or A+ everyone expected.

However, if the game doesn't have a lot of hype and it's not part of a venerable franchise, not a sequel to an awesome game, etc then an 8.5 score can be a pleasant surprise.

All depends on the game.

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#27 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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[QUOTE="peterw007"]

On System Wars:

10 - Overrated

9.5 - Buying it

9.0 - Almost Flop

8.5 - Not Even Worth Playing

8.0 - lol

7.5 or lower - It's existence should be forbidden

TrapJak

Fixed. :lol:

actually I think that it is more accurate like that

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#28 DarkLink77
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When fanboys b****ed for days on end when something didn't get a 9.0.

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#29 TrapJak
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When fanboys b****ed for days on end when something didn't get a 9.0.

DarkLink77

The only examples I can think of in that situation are Twilight Princess, GT5, and Killzone.

Man , I wish I saw the Twilight Princess reaction...

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#30 Lionheart08
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ive been seeing lately that alot of games have been getting 8.5's, but those are way higher than average scores....every time i see a 8 or a 8.5 I see the word flopped tossed around. Even a 7 or 7.5 is a decent score

youngmurk911

I'll give you a stroll down memory lane. Once upon a time Cows hyped the PS3 to be the second coming of christ. PS3 had a poor launch in 2006, and didn't get any AAA titles (on Gamespot) in 2007. Every other faction decided to rub it in their faces that the system lacked AAAs, with Cows maintaining the "Just wait for our big exclusives!"

Come 2008 PS3 finally did get AAAs (and a AAAA) but the "It needs to be AAA to matter" mantra unfortunately stuck around.

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#31 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

When fanboys b****ed for days on end when something didn't get a 9.0.

TrapJak

The only examples I can think of in that situation are Twilight Princess, GT5, and Killzone.

Man , I wish I saw the Twilight Princess reaction...

So do I. :o
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#32 mems_1224
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A flop just means it didn't mean the hype, not the quality of the game.

cain006
wouldn't the sales determine if it flopped or not then?
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#33 djsifer01
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Its not a terrible thing. Its just been used alot on this site as a review score for some games that deserved higher.
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#34 AcidSoldner
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It's based on the stupid System Wars metagame. Flopped means it didn't meat the "hype." And while people will come in here and say that a game that didn't meat the "hype" is a bad game, that is far from the truth. Just go into any hype thread and nearly any game that doesn't meat the hype is a bad game because all those threads ever do is snowball into negative discussion of the game. For example, GT5 got an 8.0, great by the Gamespot scoring rubric, yet is considered by Gamespot's forum community to be a bad game. It's pretty pathetic really.
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#35 Khoo1992
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Too much games got more than 9.0 in the past

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#36 jun_aka_pekto
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8.5 is a good score. I don't listen to hype. Hyping games is no different than the gossip among my wife and her friends.

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#37 aznfunnyjunker
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Why does everyone think a flop is always a bad game? A flop just means it didn't meet the expected hype. If a game that got 9,5 was hyped 10, it would be a flop.

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#38 HaloPimp978
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Idk 8.5 games are excellent to me, but I guess not in the GS commuinty.

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#39 PsychoLemons
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8.5 means the game is a flop, thus failing to meet up with it's hype. 6 and below is a panned game.

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#40 BrunoBRS
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it's not that they're bad, it's that a) they're too often and b) arguably worse games got better scores, thus making the fans of the lower-scoring game mad.
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#41 jhcho2
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The 8.5 stigma is far more apparent when a game was hyped as 9.5 and it got 8.5, falling short of an AAA rank. And it seems like the common perception is that 8.5 is bad, but it really isn't, just that it's the score most of us tend to see when a game falls short of AAA. Case in point, Killzone 3, Battlefield 3, Marvel vs Capcom 3 etc.

Now, if a DBZ game, say....Ultimate Tenkaichi managed to get an 8.5.....wouldn't that be something? But if it did, no one will complain right? A classical case of Murphy's Law. But it's all psychological.

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#42 gamebreakerz__
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When BLOPS got a 9.0
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#43 bri360
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Its not at all a terrible rating, but its become the new average score for most good but nothing special games it seems.

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#44 Darth_DuMas
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A lot of my favourite games have been around 8.5s this gen.

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#45 loosingENDS
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ive been seeing lately that alot of games have been getting 8.5's, but those are way higher than average scores....every time i see a 8 or a 8.5 I see the word flopped tossed around. Even a 7 or 7.5 is a decent score

youngmurk911

Flop is about the hype

For example Infamous 2 was hyped AAA and got 7.5/10, that is a flop

Gunstringer for Kinect was hyped below A (garbage as all Kinect games are called here) and got AA and 8.5/10, that was a huge success and confirmed Kinect as one of the best devices in gaming

Then there is the middle ground, games that were hyped 9.5-10/10 and get 9/10, like Uncharted 3, these dont fall in any category, as AAA is 9-9.9, so the hype method fails in this case, since makes no difference if the game is 9 or 9.9, while in reality it does

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#46 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="youngmurk911"]

ive been seeing lately that alot of games have been getting 8.5's, but those are way higher than average scores....every time i see a 8 or a 8.5 I see the word flopped tossed around. Even a 7 or 7.5 is a decent score

loosingENDS

Flop is about the hype

For example Infamous 2 was hyped AAA and got 7.5/10, that is a flop

Gunstringer for Kinect was hyped below A (garbage as all Kinect games are called here) and got AA and 8.5/10, that was a huge success and confirmed Kinect as one of the best devices in gaming

Then there is the middle ground, games that were hyped 9.5-10/10 and get 9/10, like Uncharted 3, these dont fall in any category, as AAA is 9-9.9, so the hype method fails in this case, since makes no difference if the game is 9 or 9.9, while in reality it does

What about fable 3's 7, was that a flop?

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#47 KiZZo1
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When they rated Gunstringer 8.5 ...

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#48 dommeus
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PS3 launched with resistance fall of man 8.6 here on GS but all lemmings said "PS3 aint got no games" and that all of it's games were terrible because they were not AAA, so I guess in 2006 when lemmings tried to trash sony fans and the Ps3 by saying that none of it's games were any good because they were not AAA simply because the xbox360 had 1 or 2 AAAe exclusives.

Ironically lemmings said that cows couldn't use mutiplats as refrence to their library *being that Oblivion was AAA on PS3 as well* and would destroy the whole no games montra

my how things have changed.

casharmy
You've only been a member since 2011. Ban dodging confirmed? HYPE: AAA.
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#49 Am_Confucius
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Flop doesn't mean bad game. End of thread.SaltyMeatballs
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#50 Oil_Rope_Bombs
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Flop =/= bad game. It just means the game didn't meet hype. For example, if a game is hyped AAA, and gets AA, that means it's a great game, but a flop because it did not meet expectations.