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#1 biggest_loser
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What was the general consensus for the SC: Conviction demo?!

Who liked it?! Who didn't?!

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#2 G-O-M-J
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i didnt like it
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#3 Leejjohno
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It wasn't great... it was just a stealthy shooter with a simplified VATS system.

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#4 AAllxxjjnn
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Disappointing, considering that you couldn't complete it without being heard, seen, or having killed anyone. Even more disappointing when Ubisoft posted a video on their youtube page with the title "full stealth demo walkthrough", only to hear the enemies yell "ENEMY HOSTILE IN THE AREA" at several points through the walkthrough, confirming that Ubisoft do not know what stealth means.

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#5 navyguy21
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I thought it was awesome lol, glad i preordered it :D
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#6 wolverine4262
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I thought it was cool, too short...
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#7 xsubtownerx
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I hated it. In my opinion, they've ruined the franchise.
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#8 bokiloki
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meh

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#9 Zaibach
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didnt even finish it.

I hope it turns out well....we all remember infamous, slightly underwhelming demo, but one hell of a game.

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#10 SparkyProtocol
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I enjoyed it and co-op will be a blast, but I'm not buying it. :P Maybe when it is around 20 dollars.
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#11 rp108
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Thought it was amazing. If I finish Double Agent before release date, day one buy.

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#12 Suffca
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I tried more of a stealth playthrough and liked it. Will I buy it? Probably not. Seems like a rental IMO.

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#13 35cent
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I thought it was great personally.

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#14 web966
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I loved it, and I usually cant stand Splinter Cell games.
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#15 G-O-M-J
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didnt even finish it.

I hope it turns out well....we all remember infamous, slightly underwhelming demo, but one hell of a game.

Zaibach
what did you do, start playing and then turn it off straight away?
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#17 jetslalom
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vats system is stupid, they used it just so they can hype up that you can play in "real time" thru the scenes, which to me is very dumb, and i didnt find it too stealthy, im a huge fan of stealth, like metal gear and the original splinter cell games, whatever i might still get it seeing how my 360 has been collecting dust lately

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#18 web966
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

didnt even finish it.

I hope it turns out well....we all remember infamous, slightly underwhelming demo, but one hell of a game.

G-O-M-J
what did you do, start playing and then turn it off straight away?

Yeh, the demo was like 5 minutes long.
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#19 Puckhog04
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I enjoyed it. Have the PC version reserved.

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#20 jrhawk42
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didn't like it...

splinter cell is basically dead to me now.

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#21 LiquidSnake1001
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Dissapointing, way too casual and easy, I was right next to guards and they couldn't see me. Also no SvM is lame. I'll still get it though.
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#22 The_Game21x
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My thoughts on the demo.

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#23 Dead-Memories
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pretty decent.

but i'm concerned that we've heard nothing on any new spy vs merc mode.

if they take that out then the game is going to be fairly mediocore.

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#24 Anjunaddict
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Meh, i havent liked the series since Pandora tomorrow. It was kind of fun, but there was something not right. The production values or something seemed low. The cutscenes were pretty awful, and the last cutscene before the demo abruptly ends was just terribly executed imo. A rental maybe, if i feel like it.
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#25 lawlessx
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My thoughts on the demo.

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that review was pretty spot on
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#26 akbar13
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Back to Chaos Theory for me!

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#27 SmokieX
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Meh, i havent liked the series since Pandora tomorrow. It was kind of fun, but there was something not right. The production values or something seemed low. The cutscenes were pretty awful, and the last cutscene before the demo abruptly ends was just terribly executed imo. A rental maybe, if i feel like it.Anjunaddict
What!?!?!?! No love for Chaos Theory?:( Double Agent was horrible and I was also letdown by the Splinter Cell Conviction demo. No more hiding bodies, throwing cans and whistling makes me sad. The new mark and execution system is all right, but takes away from the stealth aspect of the game. Can't see myself using if too much anyways.
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#28 xsubtownerx
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didn't like it...

splinter cell is basically dead to me now.

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I agree. And I used to be a huge fan. But this new gameplay is a complete mockery to the franchise.
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#29 biggest_loser
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Disappointing, considering that you couldn't complete it without being heard, seen, or having killed anyone. Even more disappointing when Ubisoft posted a video on their youtube page with the title "full stealth demo walkthrough", only to hear the enemies yell "ENEMY HOSTILE IN THE AREA" at several points through the walkthrough, confirming that Ubisoft do not know what stealth means.

AAllxxjjnn
Good lord...
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#30 dommeus
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First impressions weren't great, but on repeated plays it is now super awesome

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#31 -Snooze-
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Ruined the series imo.

I'm not sure if this or MGS4 was more dissapointing.

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#32 nutcrackr
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I haven't played it but sounds like we are having a good year with Publishers ruining franchises (cnc 4, supreme commander 2) Doesn't give me much hope for max payne 3 either.
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#33 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

Disappointing, considering that you couldn't complete it without being heard, seen, or having killed anyone. Even more disappointing when Ubisoft posted a video on their youtube page with the title "full stealth demo walkthrough", only to hear the enemies yell "ENEMY HOSTILE IN THE AREA" at several points through the walkthrough, confirming that Ubisoft do not know what stealth means.

biggest_loser

Good lord...

Lemme revise that, you COULD complete it without being SEEN or killing anyone, but to do so you had to use tactics that would alert the enemies that you are in the building up to no good. I wouldn't really say that counts as full on stealth, which is something i think should be possible in a SPLINTER CELL game.

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#34 93soccer
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Fun but wayy too short. Not the best demo I've ever played.
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#35 Leejjohno
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

My thoughts on the demo.

lawlessx

that review was pretty spot on

And whoever wrote that was also right about the original concept... It actually was quite interesting and even made sam a bit more realistic.

I didn't particularly like the splinter cell games before but I can understand why people would be disappointed with this.

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#36 AtomicBaconBits
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It was fun yes,but completely slaps everything Splinter Cell has stood for in the face.That being said,I still want to play it just because I can't deny that it was really a blast to play; but I also can't help but feel disappointed by the way this franchise is being taken.This will be a rent,definitely.

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#37 Vaasman
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I kinda didn't like it. The controls were rather overstuffed, like holding L and then pressing buttons is a whole different set, though maybe like Assassin's creed it just takes a bit. The things that bothered me the most were the butchered stealth mechanics. The only difference between in and out of shadow was the screen going black and white suddenly, and a lot of the areas were already either dark or colorless so I couldn't tell how stealthed I was or if I was about to move back into the light, I mean color. The insta kill moves were cool but very buggy, I tried the demo twice and both times I managed to shoot people from an impossible angle just by marking them. I don't know, the graphics were great, but everything else just felt really off.

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#38 88mphSlayer
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as a splinter cell game it wasn't very good

as a stealth game by itself it was pretty fun

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#39 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

My thoughts on the demo.

Leejjohno

that review was pretty spot on

And whoever wrote that was also right about the original concept... It actually was quite interesting and even made sam a bit more realistic.

I didn't particularly like the splinter cell games before but I can understand why people would be disappointed with this.

The poster who posted it wrote it :p
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#40 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

Disappointing, considering that you couldn't complete it without being heard, seen, or having killed anyone. Even more disappointing when Ubisoft posted a video on their youtube page with the title "full stealth demo walkthrough", only to hear the enemies yell "ENEMY HOSTILE IN THE AREA" at several points through the walkthrough, confirming that Ubisoft do not know what stealth means.

AAllxxjjnn

Good lord...

Lemme revise that, you COULD complete it without being SEEN or killing anyone, but to do so you had to use tactics that would alert the enemies that you are in the building up to no good. I wouldn't really say that counts as full on stealth, which is something i think should be possible in a SPLINTER CELL game.

i agree with what you are saying, but to be fair to the devs, we would all be complaining and criticizing them had they made another chaos theory with minimal gameplay changes. I think its a fresh feel that will get the series back in the minds of gamers. They are free to go to their roots later. Im glad they changed it up a bit, Double Agent was stale, and lame :P
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#41 BURSTIIIFIRE
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If you look at it as an action game than it is an awesome game...day 1 buy for me.

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#42 AAllxxjjnn
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i agree with what you are saying, but to be fair to the devs, we would all be complaining and criticizing them had they made another chaos theory with minimal gameplay changes. I think its a fresh feel that will get the series back in the minds of gamers. They are free to go to their roots later. Im glad they changed it up a bit, Double Agent was stale, and lame :Pnavyguy21
They could have easily included stealth gameplay mechanics, like the ones in Chaos Theory, while also giving us the Predator/action like mechanics they're introducing in Conviction. I don't see why they couldn't have done that. Instead it seems the level design is focused around the mark and execute feature. Again, this is just one level we've gotten to play, the others could be different and there could be more gadgets that promote full on stealth that were not included in the demo
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#43 Macutchi
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No more hiding bodies, throwing cans and whistling makes me sad. SmokieX

my 360 died a few weeks ago so i havent been able to play the demo but reading this annoys me. id hoped they would go back to chaos theory style mechanics but obviously not...

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#44 Ninten007
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You know what I think?

People are complaining way too much. This game had to be updated to fit the modern spy trends like Jason Bourne and the new 007 flicks. People want harder edged stories with pretty intense and gritty violence as opposed to hiding in the shadows.

I am a PS3 owner and I think it is an incredible game.

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#45 Senor_Kami
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Seemed ok-ish. The interrogation scene would have been better if had Heay Rain controls. It's hard to go back to the old school press one button once method of cutscene interaction. I wish I could use the thumb stick to ram his head into the mirror as many times as I wanted or snap his trachea by slowly inching the stick in one direction. It'll be interesting to see how games 8+ months from now will incorporate some of the stuff that HR did right incredibly well. Anyways, I don't usually play shooter but I thought this one was ok. I think it's a game that I'll definitely pick up eventually, but that might be like a year from now when it's pretty cheap.
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#46 deactivated-5e7be39d87e0b
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Um, where did the stealth go?

And they really simplified the controls, too.

IDK, I'll play it a couple more times, but right now................me no likey:(

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#47 ghost392
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Um, where did the stealth go?

And they really simplified the controls, too.

IDK, I'll play it a couple more times, but right now................me no likey:(

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It was cool but it shouldnt of been called Splinter Cell imo
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]i agree with what you are saying, but to be fair to the devs, we would all be complaining and criticizing them had they made another chaos theory with minimal gameplay changes. I think its a fresh feel that will get the series back in the minds of gamers. They are free to go to their roots later. Im glad they changed it up a bit, Double Agent was stale, and lame :PAAllxxjjnn
They could have easily included stealth gameplay mechanics, like the ones in Chaos Theory, while also giving us the Predator/action like mechanics they're introducing in Conviction. I don't see why they couldn't have done that. Instead it seems the level design is focused around the mark and execute feature. Again, this is just one level we've gotten to play, the others could be different and there could be more gadgets that promote full on stealth that were not included in the demo

to be honest, i agree with everything you just said lol. But again, to be fair to the devs, they will never please everyone. I think (by the response garnered at E3) that the vast majority of the gaming public were glad the game was changed. I was skeptical as well until the demo. Im glad they changed it, and it turned out great imo.
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#49 Puckhog04
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I enjoyed it personally. As I said, already have the PC version reserved. And I was a huge fan of all the past ones on PC as well.

Thing is, it can be played more agressively or pure stealth. That's what i enjoy about it. Especially on Realistic mode, it's very difficult to not kill anyone tho. But who really wants to sneak through an entire game without being seen anyway? It's more fun setting up to take these people out. Only thing I miss is the regulation of walking/running speed.

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#50 akbar13
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You know what I think?

People are complaining way too much. This game had to be updated to fit the modern spy trends like Jason Bourne and the new 007 flicks. People want harder edged stories with pretty intense and gritty violence as opposed to hiding in the shadows.

I am a PS3 owner and I think it is an incredible game.

Ninten007
Not Splinter Cell fans...