What next Rare game should be to become a hit?

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#1 Salt_The_Fries
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With the current video game industry and market being what it is, what should the next Rare game be in order to become a hit?

I don't think anything is guaranteed at this point, however it is also worth pointing out that some key people from their golden era still remained, like Gregg Mayles who was main designer for Donkey Kong Country, Battletoads, Banjo-Kazooie and Conker.

BTW Microsoft gave Rare a huge degree of freedom with lots of bold titles last gen, like Viva Pinata, Kameo, and Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts. Of course most of them didn't sell that well, and that's why MS has been very cautious ever since. They just understand business. But with Spencer at the helm and his constant quest for something new, fresh and different, I guess they could risk again. What will be the end result, though?

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#2 inb4uall
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Rare is dead. MS destroyed them. Move on.

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#3 ProtossX
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rare needs a huge hit to be back in the gaming industry

the last thing they did was a 4.0 kinect sports game and i think before they made some crappy game

microsoft plzz brng back original rare they were gods of industry back int he day every gamer wanted lal there games or atleast rented them for long periods of time tehre new ones suck an there IP's weren't insane you bought the studio not the IP's imo

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#4 LegatoSkyheart
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Conk.....no wait No longer in the hands of Rare.

Killer In- wait not Rare.

I know! Kameo Tw- nah they'll never be so bold.

They killed Banjo.

Well I guess Kinect Sports 3 or Viva Pinata next?

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#5 lostrib
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What was the last rare game to become a hit?

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#6  Edited By lamprey263  Online
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I say quite pandering to nostalgia, make something new and original. Surprise me.

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#7 FinalFighters
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a new perfect dark game, maybe?

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The should make a another WWF or WWE wrestling game using an NES development kit. Either that or they could make another Wizards & Warriors game.

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#11  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@inb4uall: Umm no. Rare ruin Rare. Rare was having financial problems before MS got them. Rare ask Nintendo for help, they said nope and let MS own them cause Rare was a sinking ship.

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#12 SolidGame_basic
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Just get a ps4 already.

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#13 deactivated-5a7fcf5e55c95
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Smash DLC.

On a more serious note, they need to just start a new IP and stop creating Kinect games. No matter what they won't be able to meet the expectations of the old fans by attempting at old IPs.

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@inb4uall said:

Rare is dead. MS destroyed them. Move on.

No, dumb gamers destroyed them when they bitched about the great games they were making. Nuts and Bolts>>>>>>>>>>regular shitty banjo. gamers didn't want new ideas though, they wanted another shitty mario 64 clone.

also, viva pinata>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

since none of that shit sold though they were banished to the kinect dungeon.

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@lostrib said:

What was the last rare game to become a hit?

Kinect sports. lulz

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#16 ProtossX
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They need try a battletoads beat em up

make it an indie or something xbox 360/xb1 pc indie

get to work on somehting jesus

no more kinect no more crappy ass viva pinata or whatever the hell that was

no more crappy perfect darks an banjos switch it up go with a battletoad indie or something switch gears imo or get them working with killer instinct or something

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#17 speedfreak48t5p
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They need try a battletoads beat em up

make it an indie or something xbox 360/xb1 pc indie

get to work on somehting jesus

no more kinect no more crappy ass viva pinata or whatever the hell that was

no more crappy perfect darks an banjos switch it up go with a battletoad indie or something switch gears imo or get them working with killer instinct or something

Reported for blasphemy.

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Bring back Sir Arthur Pendragon.... except perhaps a little less blocky.

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#19  Edited By BobRossPerm
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@mems_1224 said:

@inb4uall said:

Rare is dead. MS destroyed them. Move on.

No, dumb gamers destroyed them when they bitched about the great games they were making. Nuts and Bolts>>>>>>>>>>regular shitty banjo. gamers didn't want new ideas though, they wanted another shitty mario 64 clone.

also, viva pinata>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

since none of that shit sold though they were banished to the kinect dungeon.

I agree to a point. Gamers are so nostalgic with regards to change. But Banjo Kazooie was a fantastic platformer with great level design and progression. Nuts and Bolts actually controlled better though and had more gameplay ideas. Could have been more interesting in the platforming department but what the hey? Mario owns that genre hard anyway.

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#20 inb4uall
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@mems_1224 said:

since none of that shit sold though they were banished to the kinect dungeon.

Banished by who?

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@inb4uall said:

@mems_1224 said:

since none of that shit sold though they were banished to the kinect dungeon.

Banished by who?

dumb gamers

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@mems_1224 said:

@inb4uall said:

@mems_1224 said:

since none of that shit sold though they were banished to the kinect dungeon.

Banished by who?

dumb gamers

Yes. Because dumb gamers own them and told them to make kinect games. Yup.

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#23  Edited By AdobeArtist  Moderator
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In the 5th generation (N64) Rare was recognized for its gaming accomplishments. But after Kameo and Viva Pinata, Microsoft re-purposed them with the sole focus as the Kinect developers. And afterwards much of the talent within left and moved on to other studios, leaving Rare a mere shell of what it used to be.

But the legacy need not die. I would LOVE to see a new Perfect Dark game. Joanna Dark is an icon in her own right and the Perfect Dark games has a proud heritage for pioneering the FPS genre on console platforms.

And here's the thing; that series doesn't rely on Rare (even being its creators) to be ushered into the new generation. Microsoft owns the property and they can commission from any of a number of skilled FPS development teams out there to take the reigns of Joanna Dark. Just think of Nintendo reaching out to Retro Studios and allowing them to handle one of their prized series - Metroid. And what a highly successful and acclaimed new vision of Samus that resulted from this collaboration.

Microsoft can do the very same thing here, let another dev team revive Joanna. Be that a sequel or hell, why not a reboot? Like I said before, she's an icon and should not be allowed to slip into obscurity.

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#24 mems_1224
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@inb4uall said:

@mems_1224 said:

@inb4uall said:

@mems_1224 said:

since none of that shit sold though they were banished to the kinect dungeon.

Banished by who?

dumb gamers

Yes. Because dumb gamers own them and told them to make kinect games. Yup.

Well, MS had to find something for them to do, they did buy them. That Kinect garbage was the most commercially successful stuff Rare has done in over a decade. So yea, gamers are what killed Rare.

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#25  Edited By slim70
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Bu bu.. Rare isn't Rare anymore MS killed them blah blah blah! PS fanboys. Lmao!

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#26  Edited By N64DD
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@inb4uall said:

Rare is dead. MS destroyed them. Move on.

New Killer Instinct is fun, other than that I agree. Rare is dead.

@slim70 I own all the systems. Rare is dead.

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Wait 'til e3.

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#28  Edited By AdobeArtist  Moderator
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@n64dd said:

@inb4uall said:

Rare is dead. MS destroyed them. Move on.

New Killer Instinct is fun, other than that I agree. Rare is dead.

@slim70 I own all the systems. Rare is dead.

The new Killer Instinct isn't even made by Rare. It was developed by Double Heilix. Rare may have provided the raw assets (or perhaps some creative input into the character design), but it was DH who did the bulk of the work.

So yeah, Rare is just a peripheral department of MS (Kinect), not a game developer any more.

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@AdobeArtist said:

@n64dd said:

@inb4uall said:

Rare is dead. MS destroyed them. Move on.

New Killer Instinct is fun, other than that I agree. Rare is dead.

@slim70 I own all the systems. Rare is dead.

The new Killer Instinct isn't even made by Rare. It was developed by Double Heilix. Rare may have provided the raw assets (or perhaps some creative input into the character design), but it was DH who did the bulk of the work.

So yeah, Rare is just a peripheral department of MS (Kinect), not a game developer any more.

Wasn't aware of that. Thanks for the info!

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#30  Edited By SolidTy
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AdobeArtist said:

In the 5th generation (N64) Rare was recognized for its gaming accomplishments. But after Kameo and Viva Pinata, Microsoft re-purposed them with the sole focus as the Kinect developers. And afterwards much of the talent within left and moved on to other studios, leaving Rare a mere shell of what it used to be.

But the legacy need not die. I would LOVE to see a new Perfect Dark game. Joanna Dark is an icon in her own right and the Perfect Dark games has a proud heritage for pioneering the FPS genre on console platforms.

And here's the thing; that series doesn't rely on Rare (even being its creators) to be ushered into the new generation. Microsoft owns the property and they can commission from any of a number of skilled FPS development teams out there to take the reigns of Joanna Dark. Just think of Nintendo reaching out to Retro Studios and allowing them to handle one of their prized series - Metroid. And what a highly successful and acclaimed new vision of Samus that resulted from this collaboration.

Microsoft can do the very same thing here, let another dev team revive Joanna. Be that a sequel or hell, why not a reboot? Like I said before, she's an icon and should not be allowed to slip into obscurity.

inb4uall said:

Rare is dead. MS destroyed them. Move on.

@lostrib said:

What was the last rare game to become a hit?

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The stupidity on these forums never ceases to amaze me. If you really still think Microsoft killed Rare, then please just delete your Gamespot account.

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Just get a ps4 already.

So I can play Knack or another Ratchet rehash? NTY

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@inb4uall said:

Rare is dead. MS destroyed them. Move on.

It's not companies that make games, it's people that work there. Half had left when MS bought them and nearly all have gone now. They've been making shit games since the GC. MS gave them a lot of opportunities during the Xbox and Xbox 360 gens. Of course they got relegated to Kinect games. How many times do you think MS is going to give them multi million pound budgets?

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#34 ProtossX
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rare never made a good game after n64 perfect dark right?

or was it diddy kong racing one of those 2 was there last true relevant game

perfect dark zero viva pinata weren't good at all

i can still go back an play perfect dark i cant play zero i cant play pinatat

i can go back to golden eye an donkey kogn country tho

rare THIS WAS UR FAULT u had all the money of bungie was getting and u turned out crap

bungie made fine games under microsoft u didnt u took money an ran with it an u shuold be sued for ruining microsoft reputation

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@n64dd said:

@inb4uall said:

Rare is dead. MS destroyed them. Move on.

New Killer Instinct is fun, other than that I agree. Rare is dead.

@slim70 I own all the systems. Rare is dead.

I don't fucking care what you own it doesn't impress me and Rare being "dead" is just you're opinion.

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#36  Edited By Shibua
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Rare has partnered up with insomniac to make a new Conker game

Banjo 3 is coming being made by Rare

Plus Rare has a new ip in the works that going to be revealed at E3

MS want to establish a big Platformer franchise on X1 they already have the best in other genres

Forza

Forza Horzion

Halo 5

Gears 4

State of Decay

Rise of the Tombraider

Quantum Break

Crackdown

Sunset Overdrive

Scalebound

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#37 SecretPolice
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The stupidity on these forums never ceases to amaze me. If you really still think Microsoft killed Rare, then please just delete your Gamespot account.

Agreed, the hate Rare gets here is pathetic.

OT, a well done, great game-play and top notch this gen visuals, cartoony adult themed TPS with attitude and comic relief I'm certain would sell millions.....

But alas, MS just freakin won't let it happen, biatches. :P

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@SecretPolice said:

@primorandomguy said:

The stupidity on these forums never ceases to amaze me. If you really still think Microsoft killed Rare, then please just delete your Gamespot account.

Agreed, the hate Rare gets here is pathetic.

OT, a well done, great game-play and top notch this gen visuals, cartoony adult themed TPS with attitude and comic relief I'm certain would sell millions.....

But alas, MS just freakin won't let it happen, biatches. :P

I've never played it, sadly.

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#39  Edited By jg4xchamp
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Idk, I don't really care.

I'd like to see Rare have a comeback, why not, that would be awesome. But, do I think it'll actually happen? **** no. Rare was Bret Hart, and Microsoft was WCW, they had no idea what to do with Rare.

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#40  Edited By SecretPolice
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@Salt_The_Fries:

Playing it now I'm thinking it wouldn't have aged well but bringing the game-play & visuals up to standard and marketing the heck out of it, a new Conker would be a massive hit since I mean, it's a shooter that differs greatly from say Halo, PD & Gears but would bring that fan base along and be satisfying but that could just be me.

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#41  Edited By N64DD
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@slim70 said:

@n64dd said:

@inb4uall said:

Rare is dead. MS destroyed them. Move on.

New Killer Instinct is fun, other than that I agree. Rare is dead.

@slim70 I own all the systems. Rare is dead.

I don't fucking care what you own it doesn't impress me and Rare being "dead" is just you're opinion.

You called everyody PS fanboys, and I proved you wrong on that front. Name all the wonderful new rare titles you have been playing, or games that are coming out in the future you are looking forward to.

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#42 slim70
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@n64dd said:

@slim70 said:

@n64dd said:

@inb4uall said:

Rare is dead. MS destroyed them. Move on.

New Killer Instinct is fun, other than that I agree. Rare is dead.

@slim70 I own all the systems. Rare is dead.

I don't fucking care what you own it doesn't impress me and Rare being "dead" is just you're opinion.

You called everyody PS fanboys, and I proved you wrong on that front. Name all the wonderful new rare titles you have been playing, or games that are coming out in the future you are looking forward to.

Proved me wrong? You didn't prove anything. Lmao!

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@slim70 said:

@n64dd said:

@slim70 said:

@n64dd said:

@inb4uall said:

Rare is dead. MS destroyed them. Move on.

New Killer Instinct is fun, other than that I agree. Rare is dead.

@slim70 I own all the systems. Rare is dead.

I don't fucking care what you own it doesn't impress me and Rare being "dead" is just you're opinion.

You called everyody PS fanboys, and I proved you wrong on that front. Name all the wonderful new rare titles you have been playing, or games that are coming out in the future you are looking forward to.

Proved me wrong? You didn't prove anything. Lmao!

I'm not a sony fanboy, which you claimed everybody going after rare was. Please tell me the new rare games you are playing and the ones you're looking forward to. Otherwise the trolling is getting old.

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@Salt_The_Fries said:

@SecretPolice said:

@primorandomguy said:

The stupidity on these forums never ceases to amaze me. If you really still think Microsoft killed Rare, then please just delete your Gamespot account.

Agreed, the hate Rare gets here is pathetic.

OT, a well done, great game-play and top notch this gen visuals, cartoony adult themed TPS with attitude and comic relief I'm certain would sell millions.....

But alas, MS just freakin won't let it happen, biatches. :P

I've never played it, sadly.

You should have played it if you had an N64. This was a 3D platformer and a TPS in one game.

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A good ol' Banjo Kazooie with the same awesome level design as the original.

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@n64dd said:

@slim70 said:

@n64dd said:

@slim70 said:

@n64dd said:

@inb4uall said:

Rare is dead. MS destroyed them. Move on.

New Killer Instinct is fun, other than that I agree. Rare is dead.

@slim70 I own all the systems. Rare is dead.

I don't fucking care what you own it doesn't impress me and Rare being "dead" is just you're opinion.

You called everyody PS fanboys, and I proved you wrong on that front. Name all the wonderful new rare titles you have been playing, or games that are coming out in the future you are looking forward to.

Proved me wrong? You didn't prove anything. Lmao!

I'm not a sony fanboy, which you claimed everybody going after rare was. Please tell me the new rare games you are playing and the ones you're looking forward to. Otherwise the trolling is getting old.

You accuse me of trolling but you're the one who started this exchange by first replying to me saying "I own all the systems. Rare is dead." No, you weren't trolling were you? smh.

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@inb4uall said:

Rare is dead. MS destroyed them. Move on.

I'm pretty sure free radical started before Microsoft brought them but ok.

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#48  Edited By ConanTheStoner
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Man I quit looking to Rare for possible hits a LONG time ago. It would be great if they bounce back with something awesome, but I'm certainly not expecting them to. They're pretty much just a name at this point.

I won't point fingers at who "killed" them, or anything like that, but the dream is over.

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#49 CrashNeoSigma
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Rare killed themselves off as its been recently said MS gave them as much freedom as Nintendo ... What should MS do with Rare when all their games flopped other then kinect sports ... Pull a Sony move and keep franchises going like killzone ratchet & clank and whatever the dev name who made heavy rain and beyond two souls for no other reason then to gain a few fans of those games ... MS is a business and don't want games that sell poorly ... Now that Phil Spencer is hired MS will give him the power to green light projects again like they did with the previous people who ran xbox ... Rare will get a clean slate again and another chance to develop games ... I do believe a conker game is coming maybe not this E3 though but its coming ... There is no way a business company would run conker out for what ? to promote a free to play game ? doubt it ... His own game is coming ... and other games are coming from rare ... lets see if rare is any good still ... People also talk about the old rare left and they were great ... you know they have formed their own studio when they left and have done nothing ... I guess they were good on nintendo systems only

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#50 mems_1224
Member since 2004 • 56919 Posts

@inb4uall: Nope, gamers destroyed them.