Warhammer 40, 000: Dawn of War II - Third Faction announced.

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#1 aliblabla2007
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First two factions were Space Marines and Orks.

Third one? Click on this link to find out for yourself. Or you can see the spoiler at the end of this OP.

Looking tasty so far, with the shiny, detailed visuals, environmental interaction (Taking Company of Heroes to a new level) and action-RPG elements added in to this RTT. Just hope that it works out properly while still giving the player a need to use strategy and tactics in combat.

*SPOILERS* It's Eldar. Personally, I would rather have Chaos, Imperial Guard or Tyranids but whatever.

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#2 death919
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What are these games about? Can it be compared to something like Warcraft 3? I think the game looks cool. :)

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#3 Kez1984
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What are these games about? Can it be compared to something like Warcraft 3? I think the game looks cool. :)

death919

Relic make better RTS games than Blizzard imo (raises flame shield)

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#4 death919
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What are these games about? Can it be compared to something like Warcraft 3? I think the game looks cool. :)

Kez1984

Relic make better RTS games than Blizzard imo (raises flame shield)

:O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O *adds to wishlist*
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What are these games about? Can it be compared to something like Warcraft 3? I think the game looks cool. :)

death919

Although it's in the Strategy genre, Dawn of War II won't be remotely comparable to Warcraft III apart from the RPG-RTS concept. Dawn of War II is taking action-RPG elements in RTSs to a completely new level - with the player being able to customize most of his troops, naming them, .etc.

Static Basebuilding and resource harvesting is completely and utterly gone, so as to ensure that the player can focus entirely on combat whenever it occurs. Replenishing your troops will probably be limited or costly.

For more information, check out my hype thread. It's got a huge OP, and most of that space taken up is pictures, so make sure your internet connection isn't too weak.

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#6 anshul89
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[QUOTE="death919"]

What are these games about? Can it be compared to something like Warcraft 3? I think the game looks cool. :)

Kez1984

Relic make better RTS games than Blizzard imo (raises flame shield)

no need for a flame shield. it is a Fact :)
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#7 death919
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[QUOTE="death919"]

What are these games about? Can it be compared to something like Warcraft 3? I think the game looks cool. :)

aliblabla2007

Although it's in the Strategy genre, Dawn of War II won't be remotely comparable to Warcraft III apart from the RPG-RTS concept. Dawn of War II is taking action-RPG elements in RTSs to a completely new level - with the player being able to customize most of his troops, naming them, .etc.

Static Basebuilding and resource harvesting is completely and utterly gone, so as to ensure that the player can focus entirely on combat whenever it occurs. Replenishing your troops will probably be limited or costly.

For more information, check out my hype thread. It's got a huge OP, and most of that space taken up is pictures, so make sure your internet connection isn't too weak.

Oh sweet, sounds like it could be crazy. :O I'll check out that hype thread!
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="death919"]

What are these games about? Can it be compared to something like Warcraft 3? I think the game looks cool. :)

anshul89

Relic make better RTS games than Blizzard imo (raises flame shield)

no need for a flame shield. it is a Fact :)

i would say starcraft was better than DOW but i hated warcraft so much lol

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#9 aliblabla2007
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i would say starcraft was better than DOW but i hated warcraft so much lol

o0squishy0o

Dawn of War is in no way Relic's best game.

Homeworld and Company of Heroes are both superior games. Dawn of War's sequel looks to be updating the original's gameplay to Company of Heroes' more advanced and more refined form as well as introducing extensive action-RPG elements, so whether this game will be good depends on how well Relic manages to put all that stuff in.

They've never dissapointed me on fulfilling their promises, so far.

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I am hyped for this. CoH is amazing, and this seems to concentrate on what that game does best: fantastic battles where use of cover, positioning and flanking can turn the odds in your favour. I suck at rts's BIGTIME, and i welcome the lack of bases. Less for my tiny brain to cope with :P I hope that the "building" aspect will come from fortifying your position on the fly.

This is my Most Wanted rts by some margin. (oh and non-shock regarding 3rd faction)

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#11 BeyondPain
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Chances are choas is going to be the forth faction.. it makes sense.

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#12 horrowhip
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[QUOTE="death919"]

What are these games about? Can it be compared to something like Warcraft 3? I think the game looks cool. :)

Kez1984

Relic make better RTS games than Blizzard imo (raises flame shield)

It is kind of hard to argue against that with how good Company of Heroes was... And this game seems to take the best from DoW and the best of Company of Heroes, all while adding tons of other elements from different genres to refine the experience, to make their best RTS yet. Hard to argue against that.

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#13 ONLYDOD
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The Eldar where always pretty cool, I would like to have the option to play as the Tyranids though.
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#14 thrones
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They're teasing us! They said they would be able to have tyranids on this Engine

>.<

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#15 skrat_01
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DoW 2 is like DoW meets Ground Control meets Codename Panzers meets Warcraft 3.
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#16 skrat_01
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They're teasing us! They said they would be able to have tyranids on this Engine

>.<

thrones
The last engine. Its changed alot since 2004.
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#17 aliblabla2007
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[QUOTE="thrones"]

They're teasing us! They said they would be able to have tyranids on this Engine

>.<

skrat_01

The last engine. Its changed alot since 2004.

Dawn of War II isn't even using a modified version of whatever Dawn of War ran on...

Essence Engine 2.0. That's why the game's so... damn.... pretty....

*Avoids massive urge to post huge gallery of sexy DoWII pics*.

Just hope that Relic actually ensures that a PC capable of running CoH at good settings can at least run this game on minimum settings. Means that I lose the shine, but hey, as long as I can play the game, it's all good.

Probably not as a lowend PC from 2009 is gonna be different to a lowend PC from 2006. But still, the recent revelation of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Clear Sky's system requirements (playable for me) helps me keep my hopes up.

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*Avoids massive urge to post huge gallery of sexy DoWII pics*.

aliblabla2007

Just post those pics lol.

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#19 aliblabla2007
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[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]

*Avoids massive urge to post huge gallery of sexy DoWII pics*.

FrozenLiquid

Just post those pics lol.

There are a lot of pics. Dozens.

Might as well pick 5 screenshots of what an RTS should look like by 2009.

Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II Screenshot

Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II Screenshot

Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II Screenshot

Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II Screenshot

Looks teh awesomeness, no? 8)

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It does look pretty badass.
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#21 Juggernaut140
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]

*Avoids massive urge to post huge gallery of sexy DoWII pics*.

aliblabla2007

Just post those pics lol.

There are a lot of pics. Dozens.

Might as well pick 5 screenshots of what an RTS should look like by 2009


Looks teh awesomeness, no? 8)

Orks FTMFW!!

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#22 aliblabla2007
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Unfortunately, I had to downsize the pics.

Meaning that it's bit harder to realize how much detail there is in the textures.

See those metal boxes (no reference to DOW:SS) in the third pic? I distinctly remember the original size of that picture showing somewhere around 25 smaller "squares" on each surface arranged into a square shape, each with bumpmapping.

At least I think it was a 5x5. Could be a 6x6 too.

EDIT: Actually, it's way more than that. My memory's all screwy again. :?

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[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="death919"]

What are these games about? Can it be compared to something like Warcraft 3? I think the game looks cool. :)

anshul89

Relic make better RTS games than Blizzard imo (raises flame shield)

no need for a flame shield. it is a Fact :)

Disagree, especially when you factor in custom games, community support, competitiveness, and balance. Great games nonetheless.

Dear Relic,

Don't ship this game until you have a good idea where you want to take it. Last I need is another game where you can't even figure out how you want tier progression to be handled, especially after expansions.

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[QUOTE="death919"]

What are these games about? Can it be compared to something like Warcraft 3? I think the game looks cool. :)

aliblabla2007

Although it's in the Strategy genre, Dawn of War II won't be remotely comparable to Warcraft III apart from the RPG-RTS concept. Dawn of War II is taking action-RPG elements in RTSs to a completely new level - with the player being able to customize most of his troops, naming them, .etc.

Static Basebuilding and resource harvesting is completely and utterly gone, so as to ensure that the player can focus entirely on combat whenever it occurs. Replenishing your troops will probably be limited or costly.

For more information, check out my hype thread. It's got a huge OP, and most of that space taken up is pictures, so make sure your internet connection isn't too weak.

Yep, looks like the cosmic space knights (of doom) will live outside of the tabletop. I can only hope for an improved army painter.

And Eldar? Not really bothered to be honest.

Chaos or Guard a 4th faction? Please...

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DAMN you relic and DAMN your 1000 patches to play multiplayer in CoH
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Dear god this game looks amazing.

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[QUOTE="death919"]

What are these games about? Can it be compared to something like Warcraft 3? I think the game looks cool. :)

Kez1984

Relic make better RTS games than Blizzard imo (raises flame shield)

You don't need a flame shield for that. Relic has made way too many excellent RTSs. They're easily in the conversation for best RTS devs.

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[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="death919"]

What are these games about? Can it be compared to something like Warcraft 3? I think the game looks cool. :)

Zeliard9

Relic make better RTS games than Blizzard imo (raises flame shield)

You don't need a flame shield for that. Relic has made way too many excellent RTSs. They're easily in the conversation for best RTS devs.

They need to take a few advice on the balacing issues from Blizzard though.

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[QUOTE="Zeliard9"][QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="death919"]

What are these games about? Can it be compared to something like Warcraft 3? I think the game looks cool. :)

Lonelynight

Relic make better RTS games than Blizzard imo (raises flame shield)

You don't need a flame shield for that. Relic has made way too many excellent RTSs. They're easily in the conversation for best RTS devs.

They need to take a few advice on the balacing issues from Blizzard though.

and a lesson on how to patch there games

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DAMN you relic and DAMN your 1000 patches to play multiplayer in CoHjaisimar_chelse
Hehehe, how many patches did you go through after the 1gb+ one?
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Dawn of War 2 does indeed look amazing. I just hope my PC will be able to run it, on low settings at least. (I care not for resolution. If I have to play on 800x600 on low settings, so be it)

I was hoping the new race would be Chaos but ah well. Not giving up hope yet, as there's still time. ;)

Next up, Homeworld 3. :o
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[QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"]DAMN you relic and DAMN your 1000 patches to play multiplayer in CoHskrat_01
Hehehe, how many patches did you go through after the 1gb+ one?

a gazillion

nah bout 3 or 4

but still 2 were 100 MB +

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#33 death919
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Do we know the system requirements? It better run on my computer! :O

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Hopefully I get the game when it comes out, so I can get good quick and not be on the noob end of the spectrum :P
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#35 DivergeUnify
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[QUOTE="death919"]

What are these games about? Can it be compared to something like Warcraft 3? I think the game looks cool. :)

aliblabla2007

Although it's in the Strategy genre, Dawn of War II won't be remotely comparable to Warcraft III apart from the RPG-RTS concept. Dawn of War II is taking action-RPG elements in RTSs to a completely new level - with the player being able to customize most of his troops, naming them, .etc.

Static Basebuilding and resource harvesting is completely and utterly gone, so as to ensure that the player can focus entirely on combat whenever it occurs. Replenishing your troops will probably be limited or costly.

For more information, check out my hype thread. It's got a huge OP, and most of that space taken up is pictures, so make sure your internet connection isn't too weak.

Actually, base building is gone from the campaign. MP is still unkown. They also confirmed you replenish your troops and such at those strat points (forgot the exact name of the new strategy point)
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"]DAMN you relic and DAMN your 1000 patches to play multiplayer in CoHjaisimar_chelse

Hehehe, how many patches did you go through after the 1gb+ one?

a gazillion

nah bout 3 or 4

but still 2 were 100 MB +

Yikes. Do you have opposing fronts? I think that rids the 1gb+ patches, as it adds the content off the disks.
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[QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"]

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"]DAMN you relic and DAMN your 1000 patches to play multiplayer in CoHskrat_01

Hehehe, how many patches did you go through after the 1gb+ one?

a gazillion

nah bout 3 or 4

but still 2 were 100 MB +

Yikes. Do you have oppossing fronts? I think that rids the 1gb+ patches, as it adds the content off the disks.

I don't understand. Why can't they have some sort of compound patch that just includes everything else, like most games do?
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#38 skrat_01
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I don't understand. Why can't they have some sort of compound patch that just includes everything else, like most games do?DivergeUnify
I guess because the updates come so frequently.
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#39 redstormrisen
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]I don't understand. Why can't they have some sort of compound patch that just includes everything else, like most games do?skrat_01
I guess because the updates come so frequently.

I had no problem with patching CoH.

Steam auto updates ;)

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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]I don't understand. Why can't they have some sort of compound patch that just includes everything else, like most games do?redstormrisen

I guess because the updates come so frequently.

I had no problem with patching CoH.

Steam auto updates ;)

what bout those mortals whu dont have credit cards ?

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They also confirmed you replenish your troops and such at those strat points (forgot the exact name of the new strategy point)DivergeUnify

Shrines, I think it was.

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[QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"]DAMN you relic and DAMN your 1000 patches to play multiplayer in CoHskrat_01
Hehehe, how many patches did you go through after the 1gb+ one?

http://companyofheroes.filefront.com/files/Company_of_Heroes/Official_Releases/Patches;8216

rofl

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#43 redstormrisen
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[QUOTE="redstormrisen"]

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]I don't understand. Why can't they have some sort of compound patch that just includes everything else, like most games do?jaisimar_chelse

I guess because the updates come so frequently.

I had no problem with patching CoH.

Steam auto updates ;)

what bout those mortals whu dont have credit cards ?

One of those Visa Vouchers?

Or how about a plain old debit card?

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Do we know the system requirements? It better run on my computer! :O

death919

Hey, it's still about 2/3 a year away from release, don't expect Relic to release the minimum requirements anytime soon.

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#45 Kez1984
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Do we know the system requirements? It better run on my computer! :O

death919

It's using the Company Of Heroes engine I think. That pretty much ran like butter for me. 4800+ 64 X2 Duel Core/Geforce8800GT/3gigmem the game was pretty scalable as well.

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#46 akai_reaver
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[QUOTE="death919"]

What are these games about? Can it be compared to something like Warcraft 3? I think the game looks cool. :)

Kez1984

Relic make better RTS games than Blizzard imo (raises flame shield)

It's okay. ;D I agree with you! Dawn of War ftw.

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#47 aliblabla2007
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[QUOTE="death919"]

Do we know the system requirements? It better run on my computer! :O

Kez1984

It's using the Company Of Heroes engine I think. That pretty much ran like butter for me. 4800+ 64 X2 Duel Core/Geforce8800GT/3gigmem the game was pretty scalable as well.

I think one of the devs said that anyone who could run CoH could run DoWII, just not at super-high settings or something silly like that.

I doubt that, but after GSC Game World fulfilled their promises with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Clear Sky's requirements..... I'm open to any possiblity.

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#48 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="death919"]

Do we know the system requirements? It better run on my computer! :O

aliblabla2007

It's using the Company Of Heroes engine I think. That pretty much ran like butter for me. 4800+ 64 X2 Duel Core/Geforce8800GT/3gigmem the game was pretty scalable as well.

I think one of the devs said that anyone who could run CoH could run DoWII, just not at super-high settings or something silly like that.

I doubt that, but after GSC Game World fulfilled their promises with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Clear Sky's requirements..... I'm open to any possiblity.

I honestly think if Diablo III and Starcraft II are successful (obviously they will be) and there specs are economical in mind, others will take follow, even if games can be scaled back.

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#49 anshul89
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I see there are no dow haters on system wars :o

pc gaming wins again 8)

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#50 aliblabla2007
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I honestly think if Diablo III and Starcraft II are successful (obviously they will be) and there specs are economical in mind, others will take follow, even if games can be scaled back.

Kez1984

I just hope that future devs don't weaken the highest graphical settings when trying to widen the possible playerbase for the game. That's just retarded compared to reducing the quality of the lowest graphical settings.

BTW, Starcraft II will probably not be released earlier than Dawn of War II and Diablo III definitely won't.