Waiting 8 months for RTX Series. Wait more or skip this generation?

@Xtasy26: Do what you like, but RTX 3000 series is not going to get you 4K/60fps with RT enabled in many titles. 4K in itself is demanding and throw RT on top and it is just not very realistic. DLSS will help in some games, but keep expectations in check. I have RTX 3080 and it is great. 6800 XT looks like a great GPU for rasterization, but lack of DLSS and mediocre RT performance do hurt it.

I'm gonna be real, might as well just skip a generation if you can. For the price now, might as well go on vacation with a partner instead with that kind of money.

Skip or wait for new cards.

I say skip it. Prices are out of control, and 4K RT is just not ready yet. That 1060 should hold it's own a few more years, if you are willing to game at 1080p.

I would skip. I have a GTX 1070 and with the current prices, I am skipping and waiting for prices to go back to normal, which I assume will be in the next generation most likely.

Well the 1060 definitely needs an upgrade, but on the other hand the prices of 30xx are out on control atm, personally I have decided to wait until the 40xx generation comes along but I am also rocking a 2070S which performs great at 1440p. So maybe that’s the answer, try and get a used card for cheap and then wait until the next generation?

You're not going to get 4K60 throughout the next generation, sure as hell not with ray tracing. Anyone who already has a 2000 series card can skip the 3000 card, you're not going to see many games, if any over the next generation to fully utilize it, not when more than half of gamers developers are marketing games for are still using 1060s.

I fully utilize my 3080 often. 3440x1440/120hz and 4K/120hz are demanding.

I think there will be some pretty massive improvements in tech over the coming years so the more waiting the better I'd say. Also prices atm are ridiculous.

I'm in the same boat as you. I thought I would have a 3080 by Q1 latest and here I'm. I guess, it's fine because there really aren't heavy hitters until 2022 start. CP2077 was one and it has sh*t the bed. So I don't care and won't be paying a cent to scalpers. If not 3080 then may be 4080.

Been waiting for a 3070 for over two months. There's no restock. Prices won't drop next gen, so i'd just get the 3000 series if/when possible

Why skip? Just don't buy at scalper prices, but if you get the chance to get one at MSRP, why not do it? Why assume that when 4000 series are out, the situation will be any better?

A 3080 even struggles at 4k especially with RT, DLSS makes it more possible but best to wait till the 4000/7000 cards to get true 4k performance

Nothing currently out is going to meet your requirements (4K 60 with ray tracing). if you are happy to hold out then do so. there is no shortage of PC games to play on something like a 1060 at the end of the day.

i also want to upgrade from my vega 64 but its just mad at the moment. so it looks like it will be on gaming duty for the next year at least.

I dont see how the silicon shortage is going to get any better in the short term. We need a combination of more fabs coming online and for crypto to absolutely crap its pants. fabs don't go up over night and there is no sign of crypto slowing down at the moment.

Who knows, maybe things will ease up when more vaccines roll out and other industries can start opening up again. maybe that will ease the pressure a bit.

Just wait for the next one. That's the thing about being obsessed with graphics cards. There's always another one right around the corner lol.

It will be Q4 2022 until RTX 4000. Secondly, chip shortage and high prices until 2023, buy a console for the gen. Oh, you heard of Chia?

You will be having a hard time regardless if you wait or not. You should buy when something comes avail, either this gen or next .

unless you can get one for reasonable price, dont bother imo

That's how I feel. My RTX 2070 overclocked will last me another generation despite I do want to upgrade and get an RTX 3070 but the way this shortage is going, I'll just save the hassle and wait for 40XX series. I heard the RTX 3070Ti is on the way but I'm not going through all the trouble trying to get it. Now that I got a new G-sync monitor, it'll help me with gaming in 1440p/165hz.

Buy a Series X now, and wait for the next Nvidia cards. That’ll give you a good jump in gaming performance over your 1060 now, and you can wait for the madness to end.

To add to your dilemma, a 6GB 1060 can get you around $400 on eBay right now...

I don’t know, the 3000 cards show a HUGE performance gain vs the 2000 cards. It’s far bigger than the upgrade the 2000 cards were over the GTX line. A 3070 beating the 2080ti means going from a 2070 to a 3070 would be huge. And a 3080 or the upcoming 3070ti would be even better.

I'm not waiting for anything. I want a 3080 now, because in the States, it's impossible to get one unless you camp out at a Micro Center everyday. And that's just something I refuse to do. Why wait a whole gen for another card I won't be able to get? I want something better than my 2070 because it doesn't cut it on the games I play anymore.

Well you’re gonna pay $1300 used or $2000+ new on the reseller market then...

Are you currently at 4K or at 1080p?

If you're still at 1080p, I'd stick with the GTX 1080. I was using a 980 and it was doing fine; I was playing games like AC Odyssey and The Division 2, both fairly demanding games, and it ran pretty great at medium-high settings.

Hopefully these changes to the cards Nvidia is making to stop miners will actually make a difference and more cards will be available.

What's AMD market look like? Are their cards available?

I'm just gonna wait it out, because the hypebeasts that hold the next gen of cards hostage are going to make prices even higher. I never thought there would be a time where the PC market would finally damn near implode due to the unobtainability of GPUs. This is way worse than when the 1000 series of cards came around.

Oh believe me, I saw the benchmarks, it's a huge upgrade between the RTX 2080Ti & 3070, I do want to upgrade but the shortage makes it impossible. I'll just stay with 2070 until this whole thing blows over.

@BenjaminBanklin: this is way worse, over here retailers are selling 3080's for the same price that I paid for my 3090 at launch and the 3090 prices have gone up to 2.5-3k euros, so 3080's are about twice the launch price rn

skip.

i did play flight sim 2020. best looking game... but my god the 4k asset the game uses...

no consumer for the next ten or more years will have the storage .

to save the whole game world local.

Ive been waiting on RTX 3080 since its release as well. Hell I have an auto notify on a RTX 3080 XC3 Gaming on the EVGA queue since 9/16/20 and still have not been notified. Back on the 27th of November my nearly 4 year old GTX 1080 decided to take a crap on me.

Luckily I had an old 2gb GTX 960 to "get by". But between having no luck with Bestbuy or Mircocenter( which is an hour and a half away). Newegg Shuffle seemed to be my best shot in getting something. February I was able to get a 5900x, in March I was able to get a PS5 bundle (sold it to a buddy). Then finally, in the first week in April was able to snag a RX 6700xt. While its not what I wanted (3080), I'll take what I can get at this point, that gtx 960 2gb can only do so much....

keep f5ing

also get apps... scored mine off the best buy app when I had no chance from their website

Still rocking a gtx 970 and a i7 4790k so whenever this scalpocalypse is over is when I'll shell out for a new PC. Still need to save a few more dollars as well for the parts.

Ether skip or get a different card

Also this is why everything is hard to get now

Shortages are happening from cars to computer components due to a lack of parts. If you can backorder somewhere, that's an option (I did and got my 3080 at launch price), otherwise i'd ride out the wave and if it settles too close to a new hardware release, just wait for that.

It's not enough of an upgrade to see a performance difference in actual practice. You are talking about specs on paper. It's a bit like comparing a car that can do 140mph to one that can do 160 when you don't have a highway that goes above 70. By time gaming reaches a point to where you would notice that performance, the 4000 series will be out. People on the 1000 series GPUs would gain the most this gen.

The problem with skipping is that the next gen of cards might not be any easier to get hold of

My Alienware Aurora R12 with a RTX 3090 came in a few days ago. Only took 2 weeks from ordering for it to actually arrive at my doorstep.

@cdragon_88: 'For the price now, might as well go on vacation with a partner instead with that kind of money.'

An IRL vacation only lasts a few days. Being immersed in a video game lasts... Forever. 😎

What are you going on about? People use high refresh rate displays, ultrawide, 4K, VR, etc.. The best GPUs today are easily maxxed out. 2000 series to 3000 series is a big jump and people can make use of the extra power. Don't try to put a stupid spin on things.

Then by all means go blow your money and pay off a scalper for one. The 2080s will continue to max out new release titles at resolutions and frame rates higher than you'll ever notice long enough for the 4080 to hit the market. And that's just on ultra settings.

Again, you're reading spec sheets or watching Youtube comparisons which cannot be accurately conveyed through a Youtube video. If I sat you down in front of a PC with a 2080, and one with a 3080, and had you play the same games on the same settings, I guarantee you wouldn't know which was which.

You attempting the EVGA auto notify on the 26th? My last hope to be honest, I do have a 3090 HOF, but cannot swallow the cost of it currently.

@Random_Matt:

Now I have been on auto notify queue for the 3080 gaming model since the 16th of September. Now one of my buddies missed their notification back in early December for one of the FTW models. And other friend was able to snag a 3090 FTW from the queue a week before Christmas. It looks like EVGA is primarily focusing their production of the ultras and FTW models over the other ones. I wish I would have selected all models to auto notify. Since I'm part of the EVGA ELITE Member program I'm hoping to get a 3080ti more quickly than it has taken for my earliest queue. So yes I'm going to try on the 26th.

Elite member too, may try for a Z590 Dark as well.

I ordered my computer March 4th, didn't get it till April 22nd and my card was just a GTX 2070 super

@Ballroompirate: 'I ordered my computer March 4th, didn't get it till April 22nd and my card was just a GTX 2070 super'

I ordered one at first with a 3080. After a month of waiting and it still not going into production yet I decided to cancel in order to wait and see what the 3080 ti will consist of. After finding out that it will have only 12 gigs of VRAM, I placed a new order with a 3090. 12 days after placing the order I get an email from Dell saying that my custom build has been shipped early.

If you were to restrict the game to a resolution and frame rate that is not maxing out the 2080.... sure, I wouldn't notice the difference. However, 3080 is substantially more powerful. Remove the display bottlenecks and you will notice the difference easily. I play on a 3440x1440/120hz ultrawide, 3840x2160/120hz TV, and Quest 2 (w/ Oculus Link) which is 1832x1920/90hz per eye (close to 4K/90hz). My 3080 definitely gets a workout and a 2080 is just not good enough.

I am not recommending anybody buy GPUs at inflated prices. However, if someone can find a 3000 series GPU for a good deal, then it is certainly worth the upgrade. Also, we don't know when 4000 series is coming out. With the shortage and demand way higher than supply, there is no rush to put out new products.

@BassMan Yes, I am aware that some games you can't do 4k60FPS with Ray tracing enabled. I know CP2077 get's down to 30s-40s with RT and even with DLSS with a RTX 3090. That's why I was thinking about 3080Ti as you would get close to RTX 3090 performance with saving at least $400 dollars. I can't say how other RT games performs, my assumption is that it will get much higher performance than CP2077, hence my interest in a 3080 Ti.

At 1080P IPS Alienware Monitor with 300 nits, so far happy with it. But recently got a Samsung 65" 4K QLED Full-array TV which supports Variable Refresh Rate (ie Freesync) so I was hoping to take advantage of it hence my interest for upgrading to 4K. Good to know AC Odyssey runs will at 1080P. I have AC Origins which has similar requirements but haven't tried it to actually see how well it performs.

With respect to AMD the situations the same. You can get the RX 6000 series from AMD's website at MSRP price but its always out of stock. I don't think they even have an option to auto-notify which is dumb.

Wow...:O waiting since September 26th, I would have assumed that they would have filled that que by now. At least you got a RX 6700XT but from where? Newegg Shuffle still charges over the MSRP prices.

Yes, the 12 Gigs was disappointing. Hence also thinking of entertaining a RTX 3090. Which Dell model did you get? Is their regular Desktop line of their Gaming line?

Just get a prebuilt. There are some great deals to be had on them. If you have a 1060 then you probably need to upgrade your whole PC anyway.