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#1 nameless12345
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Like stated above - the Vita needs to be redesigned to smaller form factor and get a price drop and more "big" exclusives if Sony want it to become relevant and competitive.

It's just too big and clunky as it is and it has no exclusives that would attract the masses (like for example an exclusive MGS, GTA, GT or Monster Hunter).

It also needs more color variations, not just the dull black one.

I'm writing this because I think I like the PSP over the Vita, as it currently stands.

And I think many share a similar view.

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#2 JohnF111
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I think Sony already said they were redesigning it, might be wrong though. The games thing I totally agree, I wanted MH and a GT game but doesn't look like they'll happen any time soon.
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Gee, you like a seven year old handheld over a new one? Shocker. Anyways, water is wet, more at 11.
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#5 MercenaryMafia
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Price drop and exclusives - Yes Redesign - No
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Like stated above - the Vita needs to be redesigned to smaller form factor and get a price drop and more "big" exclusives if Sony want it to become relevant and competitive.

It's just too big and clunky as it is and it has no exclusives that would attract the masses (like for example an exclusive MGS, GTA, GT or Monster Hunter).

It also needs more color variations, not just the dull black one.

I'm writing this because I think I like the PSP over the Vita, as it currently stands.

And I think many share a similar view.

nameless12345
What sort of magic did Nintendo pull within the first 7 month of the 3DS?
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#7 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Like stated above - the Vita needs to be redesigned to smaller form factor and get a price drop and more "big" exclusives if Sony want it to become relevant and competitive.

It's just too big and clunky as it is and it has no exclusives that would attract the masses (like for example an exclusive MGS, GTA, GT or Monster Hunter).

It also needs more color variations, not just the dull black one.

I'm writing this because I think I like the PSP over the Vita, as it currently stands.

And I think many share a similar view.

danish-death

What sort of magic did Nintendo pull within the first 7 month of the 3DS?

That's quite easy to answer - price drop.

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#8 KiZZo1
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They should make it smaller, remove one analog stick and downclock the processor. Then it will sell.

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#9 GamerwillzPS
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I think the Vita is fine in hardware wise, but the OS needs changing due to bad user interface. I much prefer the look of the XMB from PS3.

It does need more exclusives, yes, just like the Xbox 360.

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#10 GamerwillzPS
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They should make it smaller, remove one analog stick and downclock the processor. Then it will sell.

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#11 danish-death
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[QUOTE="danish-death"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Like stated above - the Vita needs to be redesigned to smaller form factor and get a price drop and more "big" exclusives if Sony want it to become relevant and competitive.

It's just too big and clunky as it is and it has no exclusives that would attract the masses (like for example an exclusive MGS, GTA, GT or Monster Hunter).

It also needs more color variations, not just the dull black one.

I'm writing this because I think I like the PSP over the Vita, as it currently stands.

And I think many share a similar view.

nameless12345

What sort of magic did Nintendo pull within the first 7 month of the 3DS?

That's quite easy to answer - price drop.

I was thinking more in terms of games. The 3DS owners didn't receive jack-sh1t the first half year. Just ask any owner on this board. The price drop is NOT going to happen this year. All we can hope on is maybe some nice bundles.
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#12 CooperThief
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They should make it smaller, remove one analog stick and downclock the processor. Then it will sell.

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#13 lostrib
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[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

They should make it smaller, remove one analog stick and downclock the processor. Then it will sell.

GamerwillzPS

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I think it was meant to be a reference to the 3DS

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[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

They should make it smaller, remove one analog stick and downclock the processor. Then it will sell.

lostrib

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I think it was meant to be a reference to the 3DS

It was supposed to be a reference to the 3DS.

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#15 FlamesOfGrey
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Just got my 3DS XL today and between it and the PS Vita, I'm done with smaller handhelds. If you have tiny hands I could see why you'd want a smaller handheld. There are also ways to get around having to carry it in your pocket with specially made bags / cases. Price drop isn't happening yet and revelant exclusives well, that's a perspective thing. PS Vita exclusives are fine. There just needs to be alot more of then down the pipeline.
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#16 -Patrick_92-
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The hardware does not not need a redesign, the price could use a drop to boost sales (along side the price of memory sticks getting a reduction), the exclusives are fine, and in my opinion the Vita has had a better year in terms of games than the 3DS had in it's first year.

The bundles that Sony has put together should also increase sales during the holidays:

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I believe they are all $250 and come with a 4gig memory card (with the exception of Madden). Oh and the LBP Vita bundle might only be for Europe.

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#17 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Like stated above - the Vita needs to be redesigned to smaller form factor and get a price drop and more "big" exclusives if Sony want it to become relevant and competitive.

It's just too big and clunky as it is and it has no exclusives that would attract the masses (like for example an exclusive MGS, GTA, GT or Monster Hunter).

It also needs more color variations, not just the dull black one.

I'm writing this because I think I like the PSP over the Vita, as it currently stands.

And I think many share a similar view.

danish-death
What sort of magic did Nintendo pull within the first 7 month of the 3DS?

The Vita is 10 months old by now :P Nintendo had announced a price cut five months after the 3DS's launch to fix its performance in the market. Just correcting some facts :)
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#18 joel_c17
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People r holding off buying it because they are expecting a price drop - they dont wanna get burnt like all those sheep did with the 3ds
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#19 GreenGoblin2099
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

It's just too big and clunky

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It's the most comfortable handheld I've ever used. The only thing it needs out of a redesign is a HDD.

It is too big I agree...

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#20 finalfantasy94
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The hardware does not not need a redesign, the price could use a drop to boost sales (along side the price of memory sticks getting a reduction), the exclusives are fine, and in my opinion the Vita has had a better year in terms of games than the 3DS had in it's first year.

The bundles that Sony has put together should also increase sales during the holidays:

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I believe they are all $250 and come with a 4gig memory card (with the exception of Madden). Oh and the LBP Vita bundle might only be for Europe.

-Patrick_92-

thats the bundle im getting. I mean for 250 its a dang good price since your basicly getting a free game and memory card. I also pre ordered ragnarok odssey mecernay edition. I also bought shinobido 2 and picked up mk for 10 bucks.

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#21 Dark_Knight6
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It doesn't seem to need a redesign. From the little bit I've played it, the only thing that felt weird was the analog sticks. But I imagine you grow used to them quickly. What I'd like is a price reduction, internal storage, and an expanded game library. As it stands, I can't really justify paying $250 plus at least another $15 for a memory card just to play, uh, Gravity Rush?

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#22 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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Redesign? Stop wearing your girlfriends skinny jeans and it fits in your pocket fine.
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#23 Ghost120x
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What it needs is a longer future release list to get people excited. I like how when the 3ds launched Nintendo kept showing montages to show people what was in store for the system in the upcoming months.
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#24 TheWalkingGhost
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Lemming, Sheep or Hermit? The design is fine, it just needs an HDD. A price drop would be nice and would help, it has good games. However,it needs a few more exclusives and needs to be advertised better. It's mostly the advertising and price that hurt it, not the design.
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#25 ebrezzy1
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Really ? The Vita's design make the 3DS look like its made from fisher price . Relevant exclusives ? madden assassins creed call of duty ? whats been more relevant then those series this gen ? Price drop !?! We can all agree its a high starting price no doubt and everyone is waiting on what they seen Nintendo do to get the 3DS to sell . Sony can't drop that price without taking more of a hit . Just cuz they drop the price and it sells more don't mean they are doing better . They would be doing worse if they did a price drop ... thats why there hasn't been one . Just wait it out people ... just wait it out . Its only a two team race there is enough sales to go around . The psp and ds are still viable options currently . You may not see it on the spread sheet but the used system market for those gotta be pretty high right now as there prices are at an all time low .

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#27 Grawse
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Redesign? Stop wearing your girlfriends skinny jeans and it fits in your pocket fine.darkspineslayer
Maybe if you're over 300 pounds and wear XXL pants. The thing is a tank, you would look like the biggest goof waking around with that thing in your pocket. Even in my jacket it looks funny. I always bring my backpack when I take it out lol.
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#28 campzor
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Like stated above - the Vita needs to be redesigned to smaller form factor and get a price drop and more "big" exclusives if Sony want it to become relevant and competitive.

It's just too big and clunky as it is and it has no exclusives that would attract the masses (like for example an exclusive MGS, GTA, GT or Monster Hunter).

It also needs more color variations, not just the dull black one.

I'm writing this because I think I like the PSP over the Vita, as it currently stands.

And I think many share a similar view.

nameless12345

lol no..

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#29 quickposter
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Price drop and exclusives - Yes Redesign - NoMercenaryMafia

It does need a redesign. Make the battery removeable and down with the memory cards. Unless that happens its going to sink.

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#30 danish-death
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[QUOTE="danish-death"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Like stated above - the Vita needs to be redesigned to smaller form factor and get a price drop and more "big" exclusives if Sony want it to become relevant and competitive.

It's just too big and clunky as it is and it has no exclusives that would attract the masses (like for example an exclusive MGS, GTA, GT or Monster Hunter).

It also needs more color variations, not just the dull black one.

I'm writing this because I think I like the PSP over the Vita, as it currently stands.

And I think many share a similar view.

charizard1605
What sort of magic did Nintendo pull within the first 7 month of the 3DS?

The Vita is 10 months old by now :P Nintendo had announced a price cut five months after the 3DS's launch to fix its performance in the market. Just correcting some facts :)

See my second post d:
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I want RPG....

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#32 PCgameruk
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Being as i have a vita i think your wrong.

Redesign? No.. The vita looks great and controles great.

Price drop? No.. The vita is extremely powerful device. It runs current gen engines while the 3ds version uses older engines and has lots of features taken out. FIFA is an example. The asking price for vita is more than acceptable if you compare it spec wise to the 3DS XL.

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Games? Ofc... But they are coming.

My biggest problem with the vita is the memory card prices and remote play lies.

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#33 LegatoSkyheart
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A Redesign!?

NO The Vita is the best Handheld ever to be made! It was bulky at first, but it's not bad now.

The Vita is in everyway shape and form better than the PSP and the 3DS, EXCEPT for one thing. It does NOT have the same Library the 3DS has AND it doesn't have certain PSP titles on the store (Square NEEDS to put Birth By Sleep on the Store!).

Good thing the Vita is getting some Heavy Hitters this Fall.

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A Redesign!?

NO The Vita is the best Handheld ever to be made! It was bulky at first, but it's not bad now.

The Vita is in everyway shape and form better than the PSP and the 3DS, EXCEPT for one thing. It does NOT have the same Library the 3DS has AND it doesn't have certain PSP titles on the store (Square NEEDS to put Birth By Sleep on the Store!).

Good thing the Vita is getting some Heavy Hitters this Fall.

LegatoSkyheart
Sqaure Is NEVER putting Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep on the PSN store because Disney doesn't want them to. They need to put up Crisis Core FF7, Valkyrie Profile PSP, and Star Ocean 1 & 2 PSP though.
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#35 Seabas989
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From what I've seen, the Vita doesn't need a redesign.

Agree with the other two.

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#36 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

A Redesign!?

NO The Vita is the best Handheld ever to be made! It was bulky at first, but it's not bad now.

The Vita is in everyway shape and form better than the PSP and the 3DS, EXCEPT for one thing. It does NOT have the same Library the 3DS has AND it doesn't have certain PSP titles on the store (Square NEEDS to put Birth By Sleep on the Store!).

Good thing the Vita is getting some Heavy Hitters this Fall.

FlamesOfGrey

Sqaure Is NEVER putting Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep on the PSN store because Disney doesn't want them to. They need to put up Crisis Core FF7, Valkyrie Profile PSP, and Star Ocean 1 & 2 PSP though.

freakin' hate that.

The Vita would make BBS better!

and those games are on the store I thought.

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[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]Redesign? Stop wearing your girlfriends skinny jeans and it fits in your pocket fine.Grawse
Maybe if you're over 300 pounds and wear XXL pants. The thing is a tank, you would look like the biggest goof waking around with that thing in your pocket. Even in my jacket it looks funny. I always bring my backpack when I take it out lol.

Nope I'm 140 and vita fits and looks fine in my pocket.
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#38 Pittfan666
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The problem is that the people want tablets nowadays. Why spend 300 on a Vita when you can just spend an extra hundred to get an ipad? The ipad gives you the cool factor that makes you fit into society while the vita makes you look like a nerd.
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#39 abuabed
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The design is great, it only needs some more games for me to buy.
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[QUOTE="MercenaryMafia"]Price drop and exclusives - Yes Redesign - Noquickposter

It does need a redesign. Make the battery removeable and down with the memory cards. Unless that happens its going to sink.

Removable battery would be nice but many devices get by fine without it. Memory cards will go down in price as time goes on.
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#41 ShadowMoses900
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I disagree with your design tidbit, but I agree with the rest. But Vita is getting a better library,and you can play PS1 classics on it, that means portable FF7 hell ya!

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#42 bonesawisready5
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Yes it does. I can't believe Sony is content with it moving (possibly) 3 million units worldwide in its first full year. That's absolutely atrocious and a price drop/redesign around/after E3 2013 may not be enough to save it. I mean, I'm sure E3 2013 will focus on the PS4 so where does the Vita fit into any of this? Honestly the gap between the Vita and 3DS is getting worse and worse every day and Sony doesn't seem keen on helping it at all. Which is sad since it is a great piece of tech and has so much potential. You'd have to be out of your mind as a developer/publisher to support a handheld console with poor software sales and only 3-5 million users in 2013. I'm not trying to upset any Vita fans but it's just that inevitable. If there isn't money to be made there then this will happen. Once again though I expect it to turn around a bit this Xmas and I hope for an early 2013 price drop
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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

A Redesign!?

NO The Vita is the best Handheld ever to be made! It was bulky at first, but it's not bad now.

The Vita is in everyway shape and form better than the PSP and the 3DS, EXCEPT for one thing. It does NOT have the same Library the 3DS has AND it doesn't have certain PSP titles on the store (Square NEEDS to put Birth By Sleep on the Store!).

Good thing the Vita is getting some Heavy Hitters this Fall.

LegatoSkyheart

Sqaure Is NEVER putting Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep on the PSN store because Disney doesn't want them to. They need to put up Crisis Core FF7, Valkyrie Profile PSP, and Star Ocean 1 & 2 PSP though.

freakin' hate that.

The Vita would make BBS better!

and those games are on the store I thought.

Nope, none of those games are on the PSN PSP / PS Vita store. I believe Crisis Core FF7 was on PSN at one point (can't exactly remember) but it definitely hasn't been for the past couple of years.
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#44 APiranhaAteMyVa
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Size comparison

I think design wise it is perfectly fine, I had no problems with the original PSP. It is more important that they build up a userbase first, a price drop could get that rolling. Add a few decent first party titles and more devs will jump on board. It is actually a pretty nice handheld, but as I own a 3DS I don't really have much need for another, but a decent price drop may just get me on board... maybe.

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#45 rjdofu
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Its design was nearly perfect, though they can make it a bit slimmer while pushing the analog a bit further from the buttons. Games, yes definitely. Price drop, I'm more concerned about the memory card price, freaking expensive.
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#46 platniumgamer
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the vita already died...

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#47 imprezawrx500
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The real problem with the vita are these things call smartphones that have games that look just as good and many of the games are much better and the vita doesn't even have a half decent web browser. Oh and I'm not talking about simple games but games like mass effect, shadow gun, nova 3 etc.
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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

A Redesign!?

NO The Vita is the best Handheld ever to be made! It was bulky at first, but it's not bad now.

The Vita is in everyway shape and form better than the PSP and the 3DS, EXCEPT for one thing. It does NOT have the same Library the 3DS has AND it doesn't have certain PSP titles on the store (Square NEEDS to put Birth By Sleep on the Store!).

Good thing the Vita is getting some Heavy Hitters this Fall.

LegatoSkyheart

Sqaure Is NEVER putting Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep on the PSN store because Disney doesn't want them to. They need to put up Crisis Core FF7, Valkyrie Profile PSP, and Star Ocean 1 & 2 PSP though.

freakin' hate that.

The Vita would make BBS better!

and those games are on the store I thought.

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The redesign will cost you less, but it won't maintain the same overall quality. Sony is notorious for this. The only exception is the ps3slim, which is of higher quality than the original.
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The real problem with the vita are these things call smartphones that have games that look just as good and many of the games are much better and the vita doesn't even have a half decent web browser. Oh and I'm not talking about simple games but games like mass effect, shadow gun, nova 3 etc. imprezawrx500
It's funny because of how wrong you are. Visuals are compatible sure, but if graphics are everything to you then why are you on a handheld? Smartphones are the Dr. Seuss to Nintendo's Steven King and Sony's Shakespeare.