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#1  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Yuck.

I really hope that asshole doesn't talk all the way through the game.

Edit - Multiple new videos have been released on Steam's homepage

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#2 PC_Rocks
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WTF...teleporting? I thought they ditched it after Boneworks.

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#3  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@pc_rocks said:

WTF...teleporting? I thought they ditched it after Boneworks.

It supports both, but from what I understand it was originally built with teleport, and they've basically been rushing to put in do-the-locomotion.

Most people use to VR (Pavlov/Onward/Walking-Dead will not want to use teleport, I can tell you that now.

The main worry for me is the dialogue, Valve has very enthusiastic writers, and.. I get that with Portal, but I don't really want someone constantly talking in my ear in a Halflife game.

This is only 9 minutes, maybe he gets murdered.

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#4 Ghosts4ever
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Looks like on rail shooter. you cant run, just teleport form one place to another.

Valve should have made proper Half life 3 starting Gordon Freeman. not this crap.

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#5 freedomfreak
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Teleporting is the worst. It looks alright, save for the usual VR jank.

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#6  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@ghosts4ever said:

you cant run

It uses both, and sets itself to use locomotion half-way through the video.

It looks like the leaks were true about weapon upgrades as well.

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#7 deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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Graphics looks better then Doom Eternal.

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@warmblur said:

Graphics looks better then Doom Eternal.

no its not.

plus movement in this game looks like a joke. VR fans have fun with this on rail shooter and let me play a real FPS that is Doom Eternal.

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#9 uninspiredcup
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Looks like they did add ladder climbing, none of that Bethesda shit.

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#10  Edited By mrbojangles25
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Oh man I cannot wait! Gonna be so good.

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I really hope that asshole doesn't talk all the way through the game.

Yeah I hope he does not too.

I imagine they're showing us an intro section or something (they're explaining the upgrade mechanics, how to not stand under a barnacle, etc), and he will be quiet for most of the game

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#11 Ghosts4ever
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@uninspiredcup said:

Looks like they did add ladder climbing, none of that Bethesda shit.

if this was not valve game, you would be complain about this game my friend.

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#12 uninspiredcup
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@warmblur said:

Graphics looks better then Doom Eternal.

Agreed, look even better with 3D depth.

Doom looks like an expansion pack.

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I understand people's concerns about env traversal, but the rest of it looks great to me. On a flat screen it might look "meh", but trust me it's going to be intense in stereoscopic

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#14 Ghosts4ever
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@uninspiredcup said:

Doom looks like an expansion pack.

coming from cup who hype resident evil 3 lol.

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#15 xantufrog  Moderator
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Also, for those who haven't actually watched it, they show the non-teleporting motion halfway through the video.

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#16  Edited By deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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https://mixed.de/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Half-Life-Alyx-Locomotion.jpg

There’s a few different options regarding movement and play style. Folks need to chill

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Gaming has reached its peak.

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Doom killer!!

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#19 uninspiredcup
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Combine combat definitely looks better than base Halflife 2's, which was one of it's weakest aspects.

https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steam/apps/256776746/movie480.webm?t=1583175759

I do hope difficulty is actually difficult. Even on hard base Halflife 2 is very much a cake-walk barring a few sections.

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#20  Edited By Ghosts4ever
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@uninspiredcup said:

Combine combat definitely looks better than base Halflife 2's, which was one of it's weakest aspects.

https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steam/apps/256776746/movie480.webm?t=1583175759

I do hope difficulty is actually difficult. Even on hard base Halflife 2 is very much a cake-walk barring a few sections.

True. Half life 2 despite being one of the best FPS was also one of the easiest FPS too.

barely any challenging movement. yet many PC gamers when they promote hardcore games use HL2 as example lol. even Halo on hardest difficulty is more harder.

Half life 1 on other hand was Hard!!.

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#21 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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Looks so much better than Doom Eternal!

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Doom just got dunked on.

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@warmblur said:

Graphics looks better then Doom Eternal.

This so true. Playing generic FPS is boring.

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#24 Pedro
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@uninspiredcup said:
@warmblur said:

Graphics looks better then Doom Eternal.

Agreed, look even better with 3D depth.

Doom looks like an expansion pack.

It is an expansion pack. They should have released it as DLC.

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#25 Macutchi
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not sure about alyx's voice. not quite as bad as when splinter cell lost ironside but it definitely loses something without the orig actor. miles better once they switch movement from teleporting, was making me a bit nauseous up to then

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#26 deactivated-5f381b7b4ba30
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Sweet jesus...

I can't wait to see this part in VR. Also those 3D puzzles are gonna be so cool

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#27  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@Macutchi said:

not sure about alyx's voice. not quite as bad as when splinter cell lost ironside but it definitely loses something without the orig actor. miles better once they switch movement from teleporting, was making me a bit nauseous up to then

From the looks of the last video it looks like they can be combined. Guessing it has a switch or dedicated button (most likely the thumb-stick) where it becomes something akin to Dishonors blink ability.

Hard to tell, but it looks better in combat than it does for basic mundane movement.

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#28 NoodleFighter
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Now this is a flagship VR title!! Even when people mod it to work on flatscreens with mouse and keyboards you'll feel like you're missing out on more than half of the true gameplay experience.

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#29 ConanTheStoner
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Damn, didn't expect it to look that much better than Doom.

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#30  Edited By madrocketeer
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After first video: eh... ...not sure about this.

After second and third videos: now that's more like it. That's a Half-Life game.

I would be lying if I said this was the Half-Life game I wanted, but I'm open-minded to new immersion tech. I wish nothing but success for HL: Alyx and VR.

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Hope it runs well on a 2060 super...

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#32 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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I am guessing people didn't watch the full 9 minute video... They switch to analogue control.

The game looks superb and I cannot wait till April, my 2080 Ti and Rift S are ready.

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#33 Macutchi
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@uninspiredcup said:
@Macutchi said:

not sure about alyx's voice. not quite as bad as when splinter cell lost ironside but it definitely loses something without the orig actor. miles better once they switch movement from teleporting, was making me a bit nauseous up to then

From the looks of the last video it looks like they can be combined. Guessing it has a switch or dedicated button (most likely the thumb-stick) where it becomes something akin to Dishonors blink ability.

Hard to tell, but it looks better in combat than it does for basic mundane movement.

if it's all optional and done through the menu, happy days. blink mode in the vid was a bit disorienting. i'd definitely stick with continuous to begin with judging from that.

@pinkribbonscars said:

Sweet jesus...

I can't wait to see this part in VR. Also those 3D puzzles are gonna be so cool

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now you're talking

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@pc_rocks said:

WTF...teleporting? I thought they ditched it after Boneworks.

VR being super immersive, as always.

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#35 PC_Rocks
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@uninspiredcup said:
@pc_rocks said:

WTF...teleporting? I thought they ditched it after Boneworks.

It supports both, but from what I understand it was originally built with teleport, and they've basically been rushing to put in do-the-locomotion.

Most people use to VR (Pavlov/Onward/Walking-Dead will not want to use teleport, I can tell you that now.

The main worry for me is the dialogue, Valve has very enthusiastic writers, and.. I get that with Portal, but I don't really want someone constantly talking in my ear in a Halflife game.

This is only 9 minutes, maybe he gets murdered.

Yup, just saw the new videos. Looks f**king brilliant...like Half-Life.

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#36  Edited By jeezers
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sooooo "immersive" wooooow

im so excited for this gimmick half life spin off

Ill take doom eternal over this slow paced, teleport, janky looking crap any day.

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#37 Macutchi
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@jeezers said:

sooooo "immersive" wooooow

im so excited for this gimmick half life spin off

barnacle shooting simulator

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@jeezers said:

sooooo "immersive" wooooow

im so excited for this gimmick half life spin off

Ill take doom eternal over this slow paced, teleport, janky looking crap any day.

It's really sad you have to delude yourself into hating a new Half Life game just because you can't afford VR. Oh well, have fun with Doom Eternal I guess

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It looks great. Both in terms of gameplay and visuals.

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@pinkribbonscars said:
@jeezers said:

sooooo "immersive" wooooow

im so excited for this gimmick half life spin off

Ill take doom eternal over this slow paced, teleport, janky looking crap any day.

It's really sad you have to delude yourself into hating a new Half Life game just because you can't afford VR. Oh well, have fun with Doom Eternal I guess

lol i can buy it if i want it, but this game looks shit, id rather play beat saber

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#41 jeezers
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Seriously, watching these videos it looks so slow... borring slow.. i guess its because its VR so it needs to be immersive and give you time to pick up things and reload and move your head around.. but this looks painfully slow

Movement looks awful, Doom might not be an "immersive" shooter, but holy balls its like 100x more fast pace than this...

seems like this game is going to be trading a massive amount of action for immersion, for me that's an L

This does look like its on rails

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@jeezers said:
@pinkribbonscars said:
@jeezers said:

sooooo "immersive" wooooow

im so excited for this gimmick half life spin off

Ill take doom eternal over this slow paced, teleport, janky looking crap any day.

It's really sad you have to delude yourself into hating a new Half Life game just because you can't afford VR. Oh well, have fun with Doom Eternal I guess

lol i can buy it if i want it, but this game looks shit, id rather play beat saber

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#43 jeezers
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@pinkribbonscars said:
@jeezers said:
@pinkribbonscars said:
@jeezers said:

sooooo "immersive" wooooow

im so excited for this gimmick half life spin off

Ill take doom eternal over this slow paced, teleport, janky looking crap any day.

It's really sad you have to delude yourself into hating a new Half Life game just because you can't afford VR. Oh well, have fun with Doom Eternal I guess

lol i can buy it if i want it, but this game looks shit, id rather play beat saber

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#44  Edited By deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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@jeezers said:

Seriously, watching these videos it looks so slow... borring slow.. i guess its because its VR so it needs to be immersive and give you time to pick up things and reload and move your head around.. but this looks painfully slow

Movement looks awful, Doom might not be an "immersive" shooter, but holy balls its like 100x more fast pace than this...

seems like this game is going to be trading a massive amount of action for immersion, for me that's an L

This does look like its on rails

Faster doesn't always mean it's better though unless you're talking about framerate. Look at COD it's casual trash that runs like a coke head with a nose bleed the gameplay is shallow as hell. Some of the best FPS of all time are slower paced.

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This looks pretty cool, not gonna lie.

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#46  Edited By jeezers
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@warmblur said:
@jeezers said:

Seriously, watching these videos it looks so slow... borring slow.. i guess its because its VR so it needs to be immersive and give you time to pick up things and reload and move your head around.. but this looks painfully slow

Movement looks awful, Doom might not be an "immersive" shooter, but holy balls its like 100x more fast pace than this...

seems like this game is going to be trading a massive amount of action for immersion, for me that's an L

This does look like its on rails

Faster doesn't always mean it's better though unless you're talking about framerate. Look at COD it's casual trash that runs like a coke head with a nose bleed the gameplay is shallow as hell. Some of the best FPS of all time are slower place skill based.

Your not wrong, speed isnt everything, but Alyx doesnt look difficult, the enemies dont look difficult to deal with. Also because its VR there seems to be little if not any run and gun, i mean running from cover while shooting, every time he shoots it looks like he has to be stationary. I guess that's what the teleport button is for? the movement looks bad.

COD looks like the better game if we are looking at shooter mechanics

The best thing Alyx has going for it is the puzzles and story. If they do that well enough im sure it will be well received by the VR fans.

A FPS game built around story and immersive puzzles will do great with casuals.

As a shooting game though, i think it looks bad, even worse than COD.

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@jeezers said:

Seriously, watching these videos it looks so slow... borring slow.. i guess its because its VR so it needs to be immersive and give you time to pick up things and reload and move your head around.. but this looks painfully slow

Movement looks awful, Doom might not be an "immersive" shooter, but holy balls its like 100x more fast pace than this...

seems like this game is going to be trading a massive amount of action for immersion, for me that's an L

This does look like its on rails

I'm sorry but what alternate reality Half Life game did you play?

Half Life was always a slow and deliberate type of game, Half Life 2 is filled with physic's puzzles and levels with hand fulls of enemies at once.

If a non VR Half Life game came out it would not play like Doom, it would play like Half Life.

This is like arguing that Mario Kart is not like Forza... Same genre's, different games.

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#48 jeezers
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@Grey_Eyed_Elf: HL and HL2 look to have more gameplay than what im seeing in these videos, this Alyx game looks to be alot of looking around and picking up stuff, the shooting was cleaner looking and faster in HL2

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@jeezers said:

Seriously, watching these videos it looks so slow... borring slow.. i guess its because its VR so it needs to be immersive and give you time to pick up things and reload and move your head around.. but this looks painfully slow

Movement looks awful, Doom might not be an "immersive" shooter, but holy balls its like 100x more fast pace than this...

seems like this game is going to be trading a massive amount of action for immersion, for me that's an L

This does look like its on rails

Jesus, you make Ghost sound intelligent

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#50 Cloud_Man
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Holy crap. This actually looks really really good. I wasn't sure about teleporting but actually looks pretty decent. Not to mention there is option to move freely. Damn, it sucks that I don't own a VR headset. But would definitely get it once it becomes affordable for me.