True reason why KB+Mouse is so superior than Gamepads in FPS

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#1 Painballz
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=OBF3xbdD3P0

Speed and accuracy

Actually watch the vide before you reply

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#2 Lab392
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Man! That's fast.
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#3 Kirlok
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not worth the extra $$$
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#4 VScalar
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Uh...because it gives you grainy blurry videos?
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#5 -Wheels-
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Ya, I think that's known already.
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#6 WilliamRLBaker
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keyboard and mouse? where we're going we dont need keyboard and mouse *we have aimbot* if you actually think your gonna tell me that is legit sorry half the time he isn't even aiming he just moves the crosshairs across the screen and magically someone dies.
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#7 anonymoussum1
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Uh...because it gives you grainy blurry videos?VScalar

This quote wins.

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#8 Painballz
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keyboard and mouse? where we're going we dont need keyboard and mouse *we have aimbot* if you actually think your gonna tell me that is legit sorry half the time he isn't even aiming he just moves the crosshairs across the screen and magically someone dies.WilliamRLBaker

Its called skill, something that you lack

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Are you actually a Hermit, or a poser trying to make the fanbase look bad?
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#10 Painballz
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Are you actually a Hermit, or a poser trying to make the fanbase look bad?Verge_6

A hermit, check my Xfire if you don't believe me

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]keyboard and mouse? where we're going we dont need keyboard and mouse *we have aimbot* if you actually think your gonna tell me that is legit sorry half the time he isn't even aiming he just moves the crosshairs across the screen and magically someone dies.Painballz

Its called skill, some thing that you lack

its called aimbot, something i refuse to use on pc fps games.
this is confirmed the PC version of COD2 and there is no skill in that movie, continuely hes geting 2-3 kills in a row with one-two shots, he continuely just swipes his cross hair accross the screen fires once and magically gets a kill, often he goes around a corner kills a guy then jumps up and shoots a guy he some how knew was there in the distance with no detail that he ever saw that guy there before or after he just magically pops up and boom his cross hair is on someones head and they are dead.

Its not skill its aimbot.

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#12 SpruceCaboose
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Great. You have an opinion. So do I.
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#13 xgraderx
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Every montage looks like this even the ones made by console gamers.Anyone who is good and plays a game often enough can put together an amazing montage.
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Are you actually a Hermit, or a poser trying to make the fanbase look bad?Painballz

A hermit, check my Xfire if you don't believe me

Oh dear, that feeling of shame from association is returning again. *sigh*

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#15 Blackbond
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  • Speed
  • Accuracy
  • Precision

I think everybody knows by now.

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#16 Painballz
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[QUOTE="Painballz"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]keyboard and mouse? where we're going we dont need keyboard and mouse *we have aimbot* if you actually think your gonna tell me that is legit sorry half the time he isn't even aiming he just moves the crosshairs across the screen and magically someone dies.WilliamRLBaker

Its called skill, some thing that you lack

its called aimbot, something i refuse to use on pc fps games.
this is confirmed the PC version of COD2 and there is no skill in that movie, continuely hes geting 2-3 kills in a row with one-two shots, he continuely just swipes his cross hair accross the screen fires once and magically gets a kill, often he goes around a corner kills a guy then jumps up and shoots a guy he some how knew was there in the distance with no detail that he ever saw that guy there before or after he just magically pops up and boom his cross hair is on someones head and they are dead.

Its not skill its aimbot.

Dude, why can't you understand? Competitive PC Gaming a whole world and beyond console competitive gaming.

The guy is just that good

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#17 iam2green
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i like keybarod and mouse better then controls. nice video.
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#18 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Painballz"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]keyboard and mouse? where we're going we dont need keyboard and mouse *we have aimbot* if you actually think your gonna tell me that is legit sorry half the time he isn't even aiming he just moves the crosshairs across the screen and magically someone dies.WilliamRLBaker

Its called skill, some thing that you lack

its called aimbot, something i refuse to use on pc fps games.
this is confirmed the PC version of COD2 and there is no skill in that movie, continuely hes geting 2-3 kills in a row with one-two shots, he continuely just swipes his cross hair accross the screen fires once and magically gets a kill, often he goes around a corner kills a guy then jumps up and shoots a guy he some how knew was there in the distance with no detail that he ever saw that guy there before or after he just magically pops up and boom his cross hair is on someones head and they are dead.

Its not skill its aimbot.

These are LAN games :|

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#19 tmntPunchout
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  • Speed
  • Accuracy
  • Precision

I think everybody knows by now.

Blackbond

Yeap.. anyone who plays fps's on consoles and pcs knows this is true.. Also, more hotkeys/macro options for other games I might add..

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Thank you captain obvious
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#21 Pro_wrestler
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That video was mostly stitched clips of different gameplay. Theres not anything that couldn't have been done with a pad. With COD2, its extremely easy to pull off a shot from long distances + headshots thanks to gameplay mechanic.

Besides, you can't just use any run-of-the-mill KB/m. You'll need one with a certain switch technology and a mouse with a high enough dpi. Thats why there are dedicated gaming KB/m.
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#22 Blackbond
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That video was mostly stitched clips of different gameplay. Theres not anything that couldn't have been done with a pad. With COD2, its extremely easy to pull off a shot from long distances + headshots thanks to gameplay mechanic.

Besides, you can't just use any run-of-the-mill KB/m. You'll need one with a certain switch technology and a mouse with a high enough dpi. Thats why there are dedicated gaming KB/m.
Pro_wrestler

Well you could do it. Just not with the accuracy, speed or precision. Its playable and good but compared to the mouse its just technically inferior man.

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#23 Pro_wrestler
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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]That video was mostly stitched clips of different gameplay. Theres not anything that couldn't have been done with a pad. With COD2, its extremely easy to pull off a shot from long distances + headshots thanks to gameplay mechanic.

Besides, you can't just use any run-of-the-mill KB/m. You'll need one with a certain switch technology and a mouse with a high enough dpi. Thats why there are dedicated gaming KB/m.
Blackbond

Well you could do it. Just not with the accuracy, speed or precision. Its playable and good but compared to the mouse its just technically inferior man.

Yeah, its inferior but TC acts as though it makes a difference. TC is comparing 2 territories were, regardless of which you prefer..the playing feild is even. (Unless you use a pad whilst playing an uber elite in CS, but unlikely). Eh, Painballz thread.

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#24 Ket87
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=OBF3xbdD3P0

Speed and accuracy

Actually watch the vide before you reply

Painballz

Give it a rest man, if your gonna start a console bashing thread every half hour I think the mods should actually step in for a change and start locking your topics because this is getting a bit ridiculous. Yes its sad your the one hermit willing doing all the overtime on defending the PC but give it a break. At least start a console bashing thread once a day maybe. Because everytime I've checked the boards in the last couple of hours I've seen a new console bashing trolling thread by you.

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Dude, why can't you understand? Competitive PC Gaming a whole world and beyond console competitive gaming.

The guy is just that good

Painballz

So I'm going to assume that you rank among the best of both worlds to draw such a conclusion from comparing and contrasting both? :D

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#26 Uberbadassmufuh
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Am I the only one who didn't find that montage all that impressive? Seemed kind of like run of the mill PC fps to me. Now if a bunch of people were doing that with pads I'd be impressed. All that reel really demonstrates is the entry level to pubbing PC FPS's. Anything lower than that and you're just going to get owned over and over unless you're playing with other noobs.

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#27 Painballz
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Am I the only one who didn't find that montage all that impressive? Seemed kind of like run of the mill PC fps to me. Now if a bunch of people were doing that with pads I'd be impressed. All that reel really demonstrates is the entry level to pubbing PC FPS's. Anything lower than that and you're just going to get owned over and over unless you're playing with other noobs.

Uberbadassmufuh

You do know the game was COD2, right?

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#28 goblaa
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Now this is speed and accuarcy. Youtube

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#29 Uberbadassmufuh
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[QUOTE="Uberbadassmufuh"]

Am I the only one who didn't find that montage all that impressive? Seemed kind of like run of the mill PC fps to me. Now if a bunch of people were doing that with pads I'd be impressed. All that reel really demonstrates is the entry level to pubbing PC FPS's. Anything lower than that and you're just going to get owned over and over unless you're playing with other noobs.

Painballz

You do know the game was COD2, right?

Oui, however... I was under the impression we were commenting on the control scheme/player skill factor. I don't see how it being COD2 has any bearing on that. Just not that impressive in the sea of PC FPS players.

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i hate PC gaming.
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#31 Uberbadassmufuh
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Now this is speed and accuarcy. Youtube

goblaa

Ok, that one rates a whoa.

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#32 anshul89
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of course kb+m is better for fps. isnt that the reason console games have auto aim ? :lol:
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#33 butteater86
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God I miss playing Call of Duty 2.
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[QUOTE="Painballz"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]keyboard and mouse? where we're going we dont need keyboard and mouse *we have aimbot* if you actually think your gonna tell me that is legit sorry half the time he isn't even aiming he just moves the crosshairs across the screen and magically someone dies.WilliamRLBaker

Its called skill, some thing that you lack

its called aimbot, something i refuse to use on pc fps games.
this is confirmed the PC version of COD2 and there is no skill in that movie, continuely hes geting 2-3 kills in a row with one-two shots, he continuely just swipes his cross hair accross the screen fires once and magically gets a kill, often he goes around a corner kills a guy then jumps up and shoots a guy he some how knew was there in the distance with no detail that he ever saw that guy there before or after he just magically pops up and boom his cross hair is on someones head and they are dead.

Its not skill its aimbot.

Seen better reels that that, pretty boring. COD2 isn't a great game to show off skills, every gun is like a railgun anyway, way too easy to kill. The video isn't a fake dude... check old CS awp vids with quickswitch glich, they no scope the whole time.

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#35 Riki101
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Now this is speed and accuarcy. Youtube

goblaa


the screen stands still, there is no moving, and for petes sake its not that hard
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#36 Verge_6
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Folks, this vid IS real. With that said, using CoD2 to showcase your snap-shotting skills is like using Ace Combat 6 to show how great of a fighter pilot you are.
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#37 goblaa
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[QUOTE="goblaa"]

Now this is speed and accuarcy. Youtube

Riki101



the screen stands still, there is no moving, and for petes sake its not that hard

Who cares if the view is not moving, the targets are still moving. Same difference. And if it's so easy, lets see you get 902 points.

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Now this is speed and accuarcy. Youtube

goblaa
O_O That was pretty amazing!!!!I want WiiPlay now.
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#39 Lothenon
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Now, go watch the video again and tell me what is closer to real-life accuracy and speed of actual guns, kb or gamepad? :D

No actually, I used to scorn gamepad-FPS too. But as of 08 I have come to realize: Screw accuracy and speed. Playing these games with Thumbsticks is just more fun to me, and way more immersing.

An example: I frequently play Day of Defeat. M/KB of course. But If I had the chance to make the whole game Pad-controlled (as in, all players would play with pads), I'd do it. Playing fps with a gamepad in your hands is less accurate, and takes getting used to, but ultimatly, for me, is a lot more fun.

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#40 ArisShadows
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Will that speed, accuracy and so called precision make a console FPS even more/less fun? I play FPS on both decives, because I like the varied feel in both.

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#41 deactivated-5f26ed7cf0697
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In other words, coming from the TC, a hardcore trolling hermit...the PC is "vastly superior" than consoles, right?

Gmme a Break, kid. You give hermits a serious bad name.

As much respect I have for the PC, though mine is a PoS and I rarely play it for Newer games like Crysis, I'll stick to convenience and fun out of the box...CONSOLES :P

BTW, KB+Mouse is "superior" because simply, it's EASIER ;)

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#42 Relys
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That's funny, I was just playing COD2.

Anyways, as most montages go. Lots of them were lucky shots. I've seen the same kinds of movies in Halo 3. I honestly wouldn't be supprised if that guy was using an aimbot seeing how half of the shots look like he didn't even aim.

Anyways, everyone already agrees that KB+Mouse is superior. You're proving a point that was already a fact.

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#43 Verge_6
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That's funny, I was just playing COD2.

Anyways, as most montages go. Lots of them were lucky shots. I've seen the same kinds of movies in Halo 3. I honestly wouldn't be supprised if that guy was using an aimbot seeing how half of the shots look like he didn't even aim.

Anyways, everyone already agrees that KB+Mouse is superior. You're proving a point that was already a fact.

Relys

Couldn't be using an aimbot, that's a LAN tourny. But, again, being able to snapshot in CoD2 isn't exactly a display of God-given talent. Now, CS or DoD...

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#44 shoubra
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its called aimbot, something i refuse to use on pc fps games.
this is confirmed the PC version of COD2 and there is no skill in that movie, continuely hes geting 2-3 kills in a row with one-two shots, he continuely just swipes his cross hair accross the screen fires once and magically gets a kill, often he goes around a corner kills a guy then jumps up and shoots a guy he some how knew was there in the distance with no detail that he ever saw that guy there before or after he just magically pops up and boom his cross hair is on someones head and they are dead.

Its not skill its aimbot.

WilliamRLBaker

Someone's never played a PC FPS before. :|

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#45 DarthKalo
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=OBF3xbdD3P0

Speed and accuracy

Actually watch the vide before you reply

Painballz
I like a game pad for shooters because it actually takesskill to line up the aiming reticule! Anyone can drag a mouse quickly.
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Wow CoD2, awful example from an awful online game. (great single player)
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#47 devious742
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[QUOTE="Painballz"]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OBF3xbdD3P0

Speed and accuracy

Actually watch the vide before you reply

DarthKalo

I like a game pad for shooters because it actually takesskill(and i little help of auto-aim)to line up the aiming reticule! Anyone can drag a mouse quickly :| :lol:

wow..dude..wow... yeah its really easy to make headshots with the DPI all the way up:roll:...

why is it that ppl always say that...since the controllers are slower to aim and harder..that it takes more skill..i dont get this...

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#48 trasherhead
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I still prefer to enjoy my games from the sofa with my gamepad.
And if anyone want to spend their time gettiing THAT good in an FPS(unless he uses aimbot :P ), then thats abit sad for him. Cause then gaming becomes more of a job then actual play. And as we all should know, that is wrong.
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#49 t1no87
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keyboard and mouse? where we're going we dont need keyboard and mouse *we have aimbot* if you actually think your gonna tell me that is legit sorry half the time he isn't even aiming he just moves the crosshairs across the screen and magically someone dies.WilliamRLBaker

It's not aimbot, i use to play cod2 for pc and i was that good.

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#50 t1no87
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I still prefer to enjoy my games from the sofa with my gamepad.
And if anyone want to spend their time gettiing THAT good in an FPS(unless he uses aimbot :P ), then thats abit sad for him. Cause then gaming becomes more of a job then actual play. And as we all should know, that is wrong.
trasherhead

Well, if someone has played pc fps games for a long time then it's not hard to get that good.

You can't really compare the both, kb+mouse and gamepad. The gameplay is different and they are both fun, just depends on what you like and are most comfortable with. So i see no point in a thread like this.